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BIG difference between Brovell test, and the test I get from my doc...

Big Brother Val

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I was recently lucky enough to get a script for Depotestosterone (Test Cyp) from a local doctor. I figured I'd just hit 400 mgs a week of the stuff to hold me over until I get my Fina.

To my surprise, I have actually grown more in the past 3 weeks off of this testosterone, at 400 mgs a week, than I did my entire cycle of 800 mgs of test from Brovel labs. I'm hornier than hell... get constant hard on's, and am growing considerably. My strength is up.

I don't know if that just says something bad about Brovel, or not. But I'm looking forward to taking this test up considerably after my Fina, and use it with EQ to compare to any other EQ/test cycles I have done.

I'd like to compare it to Ttokkyo Cyp.

So is it just that Brovel sucks? Or is it the standard of quality between the two different products?
 
Brovel sucks!

The quality of vet products and human products is actually very close for reputeable manufactures.

I think vet products are supposed to be 99% accurate and human products 99.9%
 
I've also taken Niles Sust at 750 mgs. a week... and I feel all around better on the Depotest. I'm on right now.

I know that many products are tested, and that a lot of them contain what they claim.

But I would never use a Brovel product again. My script won't last forever, as it's just sort of a temporary thing. And when it does, I'm looking to hit Ttokkyo Cyp. and hoping it gives me the same type results.
 
Maddog... I've never seen it on the black market. It's made by Upjohn, I believe.

I'm not sure why it's not available... but then again, I'm not really sure how a product makes it to the black market to begin with... so unfortunately I am of no help there.
 
Hey BBV,

I was slamming some T100, sometimes up to 200mg EOD. Zero results. The stuff wasn't dirty and I never had any problems with it. It was just completely benign, I mean like the amount of test in it wouldn't even register in my body. I'll never do brovel again.
 
Exactly my point.

Now, I'm not a big chem wizard like Huck, Andy, Mac, Stew, E2, Macro, and so on... so I don't know if even if a certain test does claim what the lable says, is there any way for the test to be less potent?

Sorta like a car.. yeah... a Geo is definately proven to be a car... but that doesn't mean it drives like a Lexus.

I know the saying "test is test"... but some say that Brovell tests well in the lab, and is not as bad as everyone says... yet this proves otherwise to me.

The Niles sust bit confused me... as the product was legit. And I'm still growing more off of this.
 
Man, you guys are making me depressed..im thinking about the good old "steris cypionate " days, damn i loved that shit, Most of the test now doesnt compare to steris, especially that brovel shit and contrary to what some say, i think the niles are way underdosed too.
 
Where I live, it's hard as hell to find human grade test and when you do, it's either fake or expensive as shit. Upjohn depo-test when it shows up on the street(rarely) is sold for $150 a bot at minimum around here. Compare that to the $60 street price of T-200 and you can see why the vet test is so popular.
 
Right on, Jeff.

And Bigkraut... Even if my insurance denies it (they're bein' a little fussy about it), then I can still pick up the tab at the pharmacy.

And pharmacy cost for it is $85. When insurance does, I only pay a $15 co-pay.

At $85 from the pharmacy... I'm sure the street cost would be pretty high. But in any case... I can get a bottle of Ttokkyo test Cyp for around the same cost.
 
John Woe... It's from Upjohn... the label looks very generic. White label, black print. Says Depo Testosterone in thicker letters. It's a very narrow-necked vial. Not as broad up top as Ttokkyo, Brovel, etc.

Bigpun... I just told him I was losing weight, and that I had tried some pro-hormones... but was worried about side effects, but that I heard 19-nor turned into "Deca" in the body, but since I had taken it, I lost all sex drive, couldn't keep it up, lost weight/strength, etc.

He said he'd prescribe it for 6 months, and after that time, he'd test my levels to see if he needed to renew it.
It was pretty easy. I figured the worst thing that could happen would be that he'd say no.
 
Thanks BBV...I think I will try that, besides, what do I have to lose, nothing like you said. BTW, did the doc want to give you a blood test to confirm your test level before he prescribed the test, or did he write the script immediately?

Thanks again for the idea. :D
 
BBV, one more thing- does the doc expect you to self administer the test? I mean, it would be kind of hard to do a cycle when only the doc himself expects to give you the injections? I can only imagine him asking, "hey, where did all the test go?" heh heh.

Thanks again.
 
I'm curious too. How much did he give you? My dr. prescribed me test too, and gave me 500 mg of depot a week for six weeks. (I thought he must be dumb but it's what got me interested in cycles.) Then he cut the script back to a 500 mg shot every 3-4 weeks.

I thought depot was actually test enth. Are yoiu sure it's cyp?
 
Bigpun..... I believe I get 4 refills in a 6 month period. I have to wait a certain amount of time before I can get a new bottle, so I just got two, and when those run out, I'll get two more. The script is for 200 mgs every 7 days. He didn't test me this round (not sure why... he didn't for another guy I know, either) and said if I'm still having problems after 6 months, then he'd give me a blood test to check my levels. I was surprised he didn't test me right off. I had the option to go to the office once a week to recieve my shot... but told him due to my work schedule I would just take it at home, because I couldn't get in because they're office isn't open by time I get off work.

Musclebrains..... 500 MGS A WEEK!?!?!? Good shit... either your doctor is retarded... your test levels were in the negative... or he just knows what your after, and is cool about giving it to you.
 
You guys ever try asking about it after a cycle? I don't know if it would work so well, but I wouldn't see why not knowing the ways our bodies work. When your test is naturally low due to the high amounts we stuff in our bodies (after the cycle of course so you don't have the unnatural test in there still) our test would be low. Then run in and get a blood test claiming the same thing basically. You should show up having low test levels if it's been enough time to run some of it out of your body, right?

I have no idea if that would really work, but if it does that would be a nice thing. Just hold on to it till your next cycle, rinse and repeat. (yeah, it's probably a pipe dream, but boy that would be nice)
 
Also... my apologies... a better description of the vial is this:

(written in green print, not black)
Depo Testosterone

Testosterone Cypionate Injection USP

(in purple)

200mg/ml
 
Thanks Val, The bottle I have looks the same. A friend of mine gave it to me and he thought it was fake. I wasn't sure being that I never seen it before. I'm glad to hear it is legit.
 
I have done the Upjohn Cyp and I loved it as well. Very cheap looking bottle and I picked it up for $150.00. I still have the bottle I will take a pic. and post it tomorrow. I have never seen a picture like it on the net so I will post it tomorow on the gear pictures board.
 
John Woe... no problem. Glad to hear you have the good stuff.

And ZeroCool... thanks. That would be a good asset. I've never seen a photo of it online either.
 
I dont know how that shit compares to Ttokkyo Cyp, but I am about ready to start my 5th week on the Ttokkyo Cyp @ 600mg/week and I dont get constant hard ons and I dont feel it kicking in worth a shit.... also stacking it with 400mg/week of Ttokkyo EQ.... how long did it take for you to start noticing it kick in for you?
 
This is the beginning of my fourth week. Just took a shot today. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

That's why I was so surprised. I weighed myself today. I'm up 5 lbs. Now... that may not be much to some... but it's on 400 mgs of Test... and that's all. Normally, I gain 12 lbs. off a higher dosage, 12 week cycle. If I continue at this rate, I will have gained 20 lbs. Hell... even to gain the same 12, at only 400 mgs of cyp, rather than 750 Sust, and 700 eq... that says a lot to me. And it's a lot cheaper.
 
Musclebrains..... 500 MGS A WEEK!?!?!? Good shit... either your doctor is retarded... your test levels were in the negative... or he just knows what your after, and is cool about giving it to you.
I'm afraid "retarded" is the better explanation. I actually confronted him about it but he kept insisting it was protocol. My test levels were low-normal, but nobody I know has ever heard of a doctor prescribing that much.

On the other hand, there is an amazing amount of test being prescribed these days. It seems to have migrated into mainstream practice after demonstrating its uses for people with wasting syndrome. The doctors saw the stuff really doesn't kill anyone but enhances quality of life, so they've become much more liberal about it.
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