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go4gold

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Just curious what u guys out there think of this cycle. In my opinion, this cycle can be done safely if taken the proper precautions( amidex, lots of water, cranberry juice, milk thistle, diet, cardio, etc) Its a long cycle and a pretty expensive one, but got extremly good hook ups.but really don't plan on anymore cycles after this.
I am 155 lbs 5' 5" about 10- 12% bf. Been lifting for 10 years. want to try to get up to a solid 180-185 lbs at about 4-6% bf with encredible strength, i am a competitive olympic weightlifter and don't want to get bigger then that plus anything more then that, i will look like an ogre at 5' 5". i hope that this will give me a good base to go off of so i don't have to juice again. want gains that will give me what i am looking for and will stay after i stop juiceing. Tired of going up and down in strength and weight. Just seeing what u guys think, would it be something you would try.

Here ya go
Human Growth Hormone- 4 iu everyday/ weeks 1 thru 24
Sustanon 250- 250 mg every 5 days/ weeks 1 thru 8 & 16 thru 24
Anavar- 30 mg everyday / weeks 1 thru 8 & 16 thru 24
Cytomel ( T3 )- 50 mcg everyday/ weeks 4 thru 6/ 10 thru 12/ 16 thru 18/ 22 thru 24
Winstrol- 50 mg everyday/ weeks 9 thru 15
Finaject- 75 mg everyday/ weeks 9 thru 15
Clomid-50 mg everyday/ weeks 26 & 28
Clomid- 100 mg everyday/ week 27
 
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Too much for a newbie. Break it up into a couple smaller cycles. How old r u? I don't think u need Gh on a first cycle.
 
go4gold said:
not a newbie, im 23 years old

I meant new to aas. You can be 75 and still be a newbie.

Just tryin' to get some info from you so I can make responsible decisions! I don't wanna throw a 2000mg/wk cycle at you if u've never done them before!
 
Too much for a newbie!!
I'm on the safe side and i think that 500/600mg a week for 8 weeks is all a newbie needs to have great results if he eats, train and rest properly.
For exemple:
Weeks 1-8 250 mg of testo enanth and 300 mgs of EQ or Deca a week would be nice.
EQ would be a better choice because i less strong at suppressing the HPTA than Deca.
Remember to follow also a good recovery formula.
Bye
Be safe
Body
 
not a newbie meaning not new new to useing aas. been on plenty of cycles, I am new to GH though, but feel confident to do it. will not do eq Body 72, just don't like it cause really didn't see anything from it except a shit load of hair loss. but thats for the adivce. and maxout. sorry i didn't clarify you with the newbie thing. but like I said looking for gains that will not go after stop useing and i think this looks ok to me, not much water retantion, true muscle gains and awsome strength gains are waht i expect to gain from a cycle like this. just trying to get your guys opinion on this cycle( as in does it look like one you guys would try. I know a beginner should do this much)
 
go4gold said:
not a newbie meaning not new new to useing aas. been on plenty of cycles, I am new to GH though, but feel confident to do it. will not do eq Body 72, just don't like it cause really didn't see anything from it except a shit load of hair loss. but thats for the adivce. and maxout. sorry i didn't clarify you with the newbie thing. but like I said looking for gains that will not go after stop useing and i think this looks ok to me, not much water retantion, true muscle gains and awsome strength gains are waht i expect to gain from a cycle like this. just trying to get your guys opinion on this cycle( as in does it look like one you guys would try. I know a beginner should do this much)

Bro, you weigh 155 lbs.... you must have started out at 90 lbs or (not a flame) didn't have a clue as to what you were doing....Keep it simple and with the right diet and traing you should put on some solid weight.
 
go4gold said:
not a newbie meaning not new new to useing aas. been on plenty of cycles,

At only 155lbs and 10 years of training, think about asking your source for a refund from those "plenty of cycles"!
 
go4gold said:
Just curious what u guys out there think of this cycle. In my opinion, this cycle can be done safely if taken the proper precautions( amidex, lots of water, cranberry juice, milk thistle, diet, cardio, etc) Its a long cycle and a pretty expensive one, but got extremly good hook ups.but really don't plan on anymore cycles after this.
I am 155 lbs 5' 5" about 10- 12% bf. Been lifting for 10 years. want to try to get up to a solid 180-185 lbs at about 4-6% bf with encredible strength, i am a competitive olympic weightlifter and don't want to get bigger then that plus anything more then that, i will look like an ogre at 5' 5". i hope that this will give me a good base to go off of so i don't have to juice again. want gains that will give me what i am looking for and will stay after i stop juiceing. Tired of going up and down in strength and weight. Just seeing what u guys think, would it be something you would try.

Here ya go
Human Growth Hormone- 4 iu everyday/ weeks 1 thru 24
Sustanon 250- 250 mg every 5 days/ weeks 1 thru 8 & 16 thru 24
Anavar- 30 mg everyday / weeks 1 thru 8 & 16 thru 24
Cytomel ( T3 )- 50 mcg everyday/ weeks 4 thru 6/ 10 thru 12/ 16 thru 18/ 22 thru 24
Winstrol- 50 mg everyday/ weeks 9 thru 15
Finaject- 75 mg everyday/ weeks 9 thru 15
Clomid-50 mg everyday/ weeks 26 & 28
Clomid- 100 mg everyday/ week 27

You got way too much stuff in here. You don't even know how you respond to gear yet. If something goes wrong how will you know what it is? I would just do something simple like a test or deca only cycle. Or you can stack the 2. Just to test yourself.. see how your diet really works.... etc..

If you really want to do this cycle, then in my opinion the GH is a waste, and so is the anavar. Drop the T3 too.... if you want to get to 180 from this "one" cycle t3 is not going to help with that goal. We are talking 30 pounds of lean mass here. Your post cycle theropy is too weak comming off a cycle this long. I would look into running HGC with nolva for 3 weeks, then hit the clomid with armidex or just continue nolva for 3 more weeks

It would be best splitting this up into 2 8 week cycles. 8 weeks on of sust and anavar, then 8 weeks off, then 8 weeks on of fina + winny, or fina + var as well as some test ( fina +winny was harsh for me as far as blood pressure goes...)

forget the HGH for now. if you want run the HGH after you are done with the cycles to help maintain the gains, that would be best.

p.s somtimes the first cycle does not satisfy you enough. this is why it's good to start off small so you can see what happens.

that's just my opinion. good luck

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! sorry i just noticed this will not be your first cycle reading your post again. I thought it was and geared my post to that.
 
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i am for extreme cycle too. but obviously from what is see you arent ready for this. you might say that weight doesnt mean anything but i think it does. you have obviously did something seriously wrong in your training, diet, or AS usage to only be 155. stick with a simple cycle and get some gains. your goals can be met with a deca/test/dbol cycle with a strict diet and training.
 
first of all your goal from this cycle is extremely unrealistic, you want to gain 30lb of muscle while dumping 5% in body fat all at once? good luck budy

second, gh is going to do jack shit unless you run plent of adrogens along with it, (250mg/test/every 5th day is nothing)

why dont you do yourself a favor and forget anavar and winstrol, get more test maybe some dboll and run tren along with those two

i would do something like:

750mg/test/week
30mg/dboll/ed
75mg/tren/ed
4iu/gh/ed

focus on bulking, eat as much as you can, high protein plenty of complex carbs, dont do cardio

gh will keep the fat off of you
 
ok, here is the scoop, at 21, i weighed only 130 lbs, thru juicing, i was able to ballon up to 180 lbs. was able to maintain that weight, ans extremly strong( benching in the 300s and don't even train for bench anymore,) i was just too fat, didn't like how i was carrying the weight( a lot of water and fat), so i am dieting down right now and want to rebuild. Anything over 5' 5" and 185 lbs is way to big. and also as a strength lifter, it is hard for me to always do cardio.I know my goals are high, But if i am able to be in th range of 170 to 185 lbs sloid, (4-6% bf), i will be extremly happy and i think that is reasonable. But thanks for all the info. you guys got me thinking, i will probale break it down into smaller cycles, but still really want to try GH.we will what happens. i will keep ya guys informed. thanks. i will consider all that was told to me.
 
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you know i think it is great that you have a positive attitude about yourself. but you seem to be a little cocky and havent experienced much. bro being 185 and benching 300's isnt extremely strong. i train with a few kids that weight a lot less than that a can put up mid 3's. just telling you the truth...maybe it will give you something to strive for.
 
im am not tring to sound cocky. i know girls that bench more then me. my best bench was just over double body weight. i was just useing it as an example that i was properly training. im not a power lifter, i compete in olympic weightlifting. my goals are to improve in those lifts. I have weight classes to be in, First goal is to get to a 170lbs( weight class limit) solid. compete at that for awhile, the move up to the 187 lbs class. I feel with my hieght and frame, i could eventually be very competitive at that weight just as long as it is solid weight. But don't get me wrong either, wouldn't mind looking good too while im at it. don't want to sound cockyto ya guys. I know there are plenty out there stronger then me, I just can't wait to be stronger then them someday and that isn't cocky, but just being confident, but if someone does beat me in competition, more power to them, i hold no gruges and i am the type to congradulate them first.thats me, but i will keep u guys updated on how my lifts do go from time to time.
 
double d said:


At only 155lbs and 10 years of training, think about asking your source for a refund from those "plenty of cycles"!

Settle down tough guy.
If you read all his post you'd see that he's only 5'5 and a competive Olympic lifter. That mean weight classes. So obviously he's not trying to blow up.

Bro, consider some Halo in place of some your other gear. I think that if you added Halo with what you are planning to take your liver would turn into jello and slide out your ears while you are sleeping. Cut the cycle down substantially and focus on what your goals are. I'd keep the GH, Var, add test P, and consider Halo. Note that I said "Consider". It's great for strength and adds zero weight. But it does to your liver what mickey mantle did to his on weekends. The T3 is okay as well.
 
i will consider all, I think it may be much too, but this cycle is for later on, i have to get bck into lifting but i am waiting on a surgery to go through. this cycle is being planned for about feb or march of next year. thanks for the support monkeyballs, appreciate it. i will take ever precaution i can take when juicing and always have in the past. i am here on this board for help and opinion and not criticiziams. but like i said before, i will keep an update of how things go with me and will always keep in mind what u guys tell me. I just can't wait to start competing again, my time will come. I am patient.
 
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Massive stack bro... hmm my friend did something similiar to that but then ended up with GYNO somehow =(.... just saying CRANK it hard but just be aware =)
 
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