Best stack for keeping gains

[Icon1985]

Depsite PCT and decent diet i managed to lose about 70% of gains on Superdrol/methyldrol. I seem to lose much more than most people

So I'm gonna try something else......

My build is naturally small and I find it very hard to make gains and keep them.

I am about 75kgs, training for a few years, on and off, and want to add some mass that will stay, as safely as possible.

Would something like Test, Primobolan and Anavar be a good stack?

Thanks for your help.

 

[Tatyana]

Hi and welcome


A couple of questions first if you wouldn't mind.

1. How old are you?

2. What's your diet like?

3. What do you mean by training on and off? What do you do for training, ie) split, number of days/week.

 

[Icon1985]

Thanks Tatyana

I am 39

I have been training since about 2000. But I have shoulder problem which basically deterred me from training for a few years. I've had some unsuccessful come backs, but I'm much more organised now.

My earlier years I wasn't eating enough... i didn't know lots of things I know now about eating PCT and good training.

My diet is something like this per day: (no gluten or dairy )
Breakfast- 4 eggs, toast, rice cereal, banana,
11am whey protein drink (including creatine powder) - can of fish
2pm chicken breasts and rice,
workout - followed by protein drink
5pm steak sandwich
8pm 4 egg omellete with olives, tomatoes, onion
11pm banana sandwiches, protein drink

TRAINING about 3 or 4 times week, split into shoulders, chest, legs.

 

[GUARDIAN]

BTW - test/primo/winny or var is an awesome stack. But b4 we go there Tat will want to get u sorted on your diet. Please oblidge her.

 

[Tatyana]

BTW - test/primo/winny or var is an awesome stack. But b4 we go there Tat will want to get u sorted on your diet. Please oblidge her.

Ta

It is late here, and I will have a closer look.

A lot of the components of a good diet are there, the eating frequency, choices of foods.

I think a few tweaks with re-arranging a few things and checking on actually how much you are eating of everything could make a difference.

Have you ever worked out your calories and the amount of protein, fat and carbs you are eating in a typical day?

It is quite easy now if you use things like fitday or calorieking sites.

Also, do you train back?

Mixing up your training can also work. Three times a week is sufficient, and you only really need to train for about 30-45 min if you hit it with the right intensity.

 

[Lift Chief]

anything that doesnt give you a lot of water retention-- primo, anavar, eq, that sort of thing... or you can take test, dbol and take a good amount of anti-e and you should be alright that way too...

most of what you're losing is water

 

[halfcenturian]

Food, Lift, Sleep. Repeat.

 

[Icon1985]

Training: The reason I don't mix it up is cos I like to compare how I am performing to the previous workout (diary). I spose I could change exercises, but I have been told the main compound ones have to stay.

Normally i would do something like this in a week, with few minor changes- takes 1 hour.

Chest: Bench press; Bar curl; dumb fly; incline dumb press; inc sit ups with weight

Shoulders: Press Behind neck; military press; standing dumb raise; bent/upright bar row; sit ups

Legs/back: Squat; wide grip pulldown; leg press; seated row; calf raise; sit ups.

FOOD: I eat normal sized portions. I don't count exact calories, but estimate I get about 170-200g protein a day. I take extra fish oil supps.

FYI: I tried Dianabol/Winstrol 6 years ago but abandoned it early as made me really sick and got gyno (never had problem with superdrol which packs on weight, but it all disappears 3 weeks later!!!)

 

[Tatyana]

Training: The reason I don't mix it up is cos I like to compare how I am performing to the previous workout (diary). I spose I could change exercises, but I have been told the main compound ones have to stay.

Normally i would do something like this in a week, with few minor changes- takes 1 hour.

Chest: Bench press; Bar curl; dumb fly; incline dumb press; inc sit ups with weight

Shoulders: Press Behind neck; military press; standing dumb raise; bent/upright bar row; sit ups

Legs/back: Squat; wide grip pulldown; leg press; seated row; calf raise; sit ups.

FOOD: I eat normal sized portions. I don't count exact calories, but estimate I get about 170-200g protein a day. I take extra fish oil supps.

FYI: I tried Dianabol/Winstrol 6 years ago but abandoned it early as made me really sick and got gyno (never had problem with superdrol which packs on weight, but it all disappears 3 weeks later!!!)

What rep range are you training in?

What intensity are you training at?

Also, estimations are often shockingly incorrect.

You know all those cheesy phrases like 'no pain, no gain' and 'everybody wants to look like a bodybuilder but they don't want to lift no heavy weights?'

There is a lot of truth in them.

It isn't easy to put on muscle for everyone, but it is possible.

 

[Icon1985]

OK - at the moment I am training 4 sets of 8 reps (or as close as I can get)

i start on hard weight and increase it to one I'm likely to fail on....
....... eg. 40kg, 42.4kg, 45kg, 47.5kg

I train pretty intense to failure every last set or earlier sometimes ( i am not convinced this is best way, but nothing seems to work so i just don't know)

shoulder pain does take away from workout sometime It's not nice to feel injured part when trying to lift as heavy as possible.

thanks again