i totally agree... when i was a reg member i was drawn to ntbm for a reason... i wanted to be a part of ntbm because i believed they were the best... i am not saying there aren't other products out there that aren't good because that is just not true... but i would say 90% of what i use is ntbm or mr supps and thats simply because they are the most consistent with quality and what my body has responded too AND what i trust... I know, with certainty, that I can count on them and I still haven't even tried everything yet... For example, I just now tried N2AMP last week and its seriously the BEST pwo I have ever tried... I still haven't tried all of our products but it seems like everytime I try something new, its my new favorite... I gurantee you this, N2AMP is the best pwo out there... now using it with N2KTS is great, but just ranking them on their own, its n2amp all the way... best protein is arguable... I have not tried n2bulk but its probably not something that I want to use for my goals... now for people that want what it produces, its probably the best... the ntbm whey is the best i have tried... there are very few proteins out there that i have truly loved... the nrgx sublime whey vanilla is probably the second best protein i have had and i have tried MANY... nothing beats whey to build muscle though... its simply the best!