black sheep said:Oh shit man, you have just joined the 1,238,972 other dumb ass newbies that did not read the rules before making a post.
You cannot ask for a source in a forum. You are not only gonna get flamed, you are going to get scammed.
As for the best, best for what? Bulking? Strength?
Grow a sack and overcome the needle phobia if you are going to use gear. Otherwise, go to gnc, they have plenty of stuff that does not need needle.
black sheep said:http://www.gnc.com/productDetails.aspx?id=350477&lang=en
There is a link to a non-injectable weight gainer..
Man I crack myself up.
glennds said:oh leave the kid alone. a lot of us were in the exact same boat when we started. trust us, your phobia of needles is a waste of fear. (FACE your fears, boy!)
seriously, now that i have had some experience and success with AAS and what works for me i have sworn off orals. INCLUDING var. easier to stick yourself two or three or four times per week then slowly poisoning yourself with harsh orals.
Docks said:Thanks.
Docks said:And what's var?
Docks said:And what's var?
black sheep said:Oh shit man, you have just joined the 1,238,972 other dumb ass newbies that did not read the rules before making a post.
You cannot ask for a source in a forum. You are not only gonna get flamed, you are going to get scammed.
As for the best, best for what? Bulking? Strength?
Grow a sack and overcome the needle phobia if you are going to use gear. Otherwise, go to gnc, they have plenty of stuff that does not need needle.
black sheep said:Dude, do some research. Do you want us to wipe your ass for you too?
, hes right about the sack thing. Get some nuts and inject, its not like you have to stick it in a vein or anything, damn, you dont even feel a needle in the ass.Docks said:And what's var?
massatronic said:Anavar which will probably be impossible for you to get in Ireland.
Rod555 said:Im in Wales and I can get Var no probs so I dont know bout that?
The rest is all correct though!!!!
massatronic said:Cheers man. I did say 'for you', as he doesn't know the first thing about juice he's not going to get sources for the less common stuff. Anyway... isn't Wales the steroid capital of Europe? lol There was that story about an entire Welsh amateur rubgy team refusing a drugs test!
duke of earl said:You can get Var in ireland - easily.
That said - you should learn about diet & training first - go natrual for a couple of years, during which you can research about steroids, so that when your diet & training are sorted & you have some experience you'll know exactly what steroids to use / not to use & how to use them safely.
GL DOE
Docks said:What is the the best oral steroid available and where can I get it? I'm new to this game, I've a phobia of needles, and I don't think I'd be able to inject... Any advice/comments welcome! Thanks.
read the rules.... and DON'T ask where you can get anything....
Rod555 said:PMSL Steroid capital of europe LOL! I expect its true about the rugby team, i know of a few teams that all the players are jacked, hell, even the coach was on em!
Docks said:Where is it available?
shortstack said:your all a bunch of wankers!
lmao, i love that saying
idcbp said:Not to break balls, but its threads like this that really kill me. And its not the guy posting the dumbass questions, its the bros answering them. Are some of us so eager to share our knowledge that we don't bother to consider whether someone is ready for it. Some of us who aren't as mean spirited take pity on the guy and I can dig that as far as not flaming him to death, but if you think he is best served by getting any advice about using given his current level of research and more imkportantly his mindset, you are the crazy ones. And to close, a potential juicer who doesn't want to use needles is a joke. Not a flame, just a reality check.
glennds said:is this where the audience is supposed to clap?
idcbp said:Great answer bro, thanks for the valuable contribution.
PURE EXTRACT said:people need to stop flaming newbies. A simple please read the rules; you're not allowed to this and that blah blah blah, would have been just fine.
Anyway, to the original poster, just read up on what is what. A great book for you to read would be Anabolics or the steroids bible or something. I can't stress enough to you to learn as much as you can before you decide to do anything. Don't just read about the benefits. Read about all the damage you'll be doing too. You have to weight everything out and then see if you're still willing to go through it.
Good Luck
glennds said:meant to be funny. have a sense of humor id.
Docks said:Where is it available? I have been training for about three years, and yes, I am a hard gainer! The reason I know so little about this area of bodybuilding is because I don't know anyone who is taking steroids... At least they certainly don't look like they are! It's a very taboo subject and not the easiest thing to bring up in conversation when no one else appears to be taking anything. Mostly people are on creatine etc... the over-the-counter stuff. Anyway, thanks to all for the advice. Will look into this further.
My stats are 5'8", ~160lb, ~9% bodyfat. My eating habits are excellent although I do not supplement with anything other creatine (no protein powders etc).
Docks said:Where is it available? I have been training for about three years, and yes, I am a hard gainer! The reason I know so little about this area of bodybuilding is because I don't know anyone who is taking steroids... At least they certainly don't look like they are! It's a very taboo subject and not the easiest thing to bring up in conversation when no one else appears to be taking anything. Mostly people are on creatine etc... the over-the-counter stuff. Anyway, thanks to all for the advice. Will look into this further.
My stats are 5'8", ~160lb, ~9% bodyfat. My eating habits are excellent although I do not supplement with anything other creatine (no protein powders etc).
cop said:give the guy time to learn.....and why read if you can simply ask the question to pros of the gear.....
He's gonna use gear with or without our help.....so we've to protect him against abuse etc etc
peace my brothers
idcbp said:My bad bro, I took it the wrong way. Some guys just down anything thats not go for it type response to be macho, and it gets to me. I realize you were just ribbing me and I can dig that.
glennds said:karma to you bro. your post reminded me of people on a talk show who say something really sanctimonious and the studio audience reluctanly claps. i thought i was being funny.
(went to give you karma but apparently already did recently. see thought you were cool even before this thread.)
idcbp said:Its good to help, but why have the same info posted again and again? Why ask the same question you could get an answer to by doing a search, and a far more in depth answer at that.
Not all body builders are computer literate. he's trying to research or he wouldn't be here. At least he didn't just do what 'some guy' in the gym told him without checking first.
Its easy to forget most people know NOTHING about steroids. So even saying 'type dianabol, anavar, winstrol and anadrol into google and read' would be of help to him- why should he know what they are called.
Everyone is so keen to say 'eat clean and train natural for 3 years before you even think about it'... and yet in other threads write 'man I'm juiced, 1g test ew, 20 mg D-ball ea, 600mg deca ew with clen and T3... freakin PUMPED love JUICE'... just doesn't seem consistent.
Apexx said:I thought it was funny![]()
I'll hit u both up with some green love
shit, glennds got some, but "You must spread some Karma around before giving it to idcbp again."
sorry bro
black sheep said:I don't think I flamed him. I gave him a link to a weight gainer that did not require an injection.
If this guy found his way to EF and register, he could read the rules, and do a little research too before making a post like this.
I usually always help out newbies, but I am not going to help people who won't help themselves.
And my opinion is still that if you cannot handle an injection, you have no business using gear.
Docks said:Thanks to all for the advice.
Lessons learned:
1) Read the rules of this forum!
2) I'm gonna wait a while before I make a final decision on whether or not to start taking steroids and try and gather more on information on the subject. I guess patience is a virtue!
Anyway, despite pissing a lot of people off with my original thread and subsequent posts, your words have helped me realise a few things about my training, my levels of dedication and whether or not jumping into steroids is a good or a bad thing. I probably will eventually start taking but certainly not in the near future.
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