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Best oral steroid?

Docks

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What is the the best oral steroid available? I'm new to this game, I've a phobia of needles, and I don't think I'd be able to inject... Any advice/comments welcome! Thanks.
 
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Oh shit man, you have just joined the 1,238,972 other dumb ass newbies that did not read the rules before making a post.

You cannot ask for a source in a forum. You are not only gonna get flamed, you are going to get scammed.

As for the best, best for what? Bulking? Strength?

Grow a sack and overcome the needle phobia if you are going to use gear. Otherwise, go to gnc, they have plenty of stuff that does not need needle.
 
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black sheep said:
Oh shit man, you have just joined the 1,238,972 other dumb ass newbies that did not read the rules before making a post.

You cannot ask for a source in a forum. You are not only gonna get flamed, you are going to get scammed.

As for the best, best for what? Bulking? Strength?

Grow a sack and overcome the needle phobia if you are going to use gear. Otherwise, go to gnc, they have plenty of stuff that does not need needle.

What's GNC???
 
oh leave the kid alone. a lot of us were in the exact same boat when we started. trust us, your phobia of needles is a waste of fear. (FACE your fears, boy!)

seriously, now that i have had some experience and success with AAS and what works for me i have sworn off orals. INCLUDING var. easier to stick yourself two or three or four times per week then slowly poisoning yourself with harsh orals.
 
glennds said:
oh leave the kid alone. a lot of us were in the exact same boat when we started. trust us, your phobia of needles is a waste of fear. (FACE your fears, boy!)

seriously, now that i have had some experience and success with AAS and what works for me i have sworn off orals. INCLUDING var. easier to stick yourself two or three or four times per week then slowly poisoning yourself with harsh orals.

Thanks.
 
Need to read the rules. This board does not allow asking for sources. You don't give enough information to have anyone even answer some of your questions. You need to look into other boards that allow this type of questions. Please read all you can before you ask questions or you will get flamed on every board you post on.
 
black sheep said:
Oh shit man, you have just joined the 1,238,972 other dumb ass newbies that did not read the rules before making a post.

You cannot ask for a source in a forum. You are not only gonna get flamed, you are going to get scammed.

As for the best, best for what? Bulking? Strength?

Grow a sack and overcome the needle phobia if you are going to use gear. Otherwise, go to gnc, they have plenty of stuff that does not need needle.


Bawaaaaahhahahaha ;)
 
Once again EF welcomes a new member with open arms.....
... mainly open fire from small arms. :fistfullo

LOL

Var is Anvar bro. And although Black Sheep did just set you alight :theranger , hes right about the sack thing. Get some nuts and inject, its not like you have to stick it in a vein or anything, damn, you dont even feel a needle in the ass.
 
Docks said:
And what's var?

Anavar which will probably be impossible for you to get in Ireland.

For oral only course dianabol (d-bol) is your bread and butter. Anadrol is good but has been conclusively linked to liver cancer although the risks aren't great if done properly. Winstrol is too weak to do alone.

If you do go onto injection find out how to do them safely and get free clean needles from a junkie clinic.

You sound like you know little about weight training at all. Go to Waterstones and get a basic guide. Use supplements not steroids and see how far you get. For value go to Holland and Barret and get their Whey Isolate at ÂŁ10.99 for 908g, have two scoops after training with some added dextrose/ glucose (dirt cheap packs from the chemist).

Good luck
 
massatronic said:
Anavar which will probably be impossible for you to get in Ireland.

Im in Wales and I can get Var no probs so I dont know bout that?

The rest is all correct though!!!!
 
Rod555 said:
Im in Wales and I can get Var no probs so I dont know bout that?

The rest is all correct though!!!!


Cheers man. I did say 'for you', as he doesn't know the first thing about juice he's not going to get sources for the less common stuff. Anyway... isn't Wales the steroid capital of Europe? lol There was that story about an entire Welsh amateur rubgy team refusing a drugs test!
 
massatronic said:
Cheers man. I did say 'for you', as he doesn't know the first thing about juice he's not going to get sources for the less common stuff. Anyway... isn't Wales the steroid capital of Europe? lol There was that story about an entire Welsh amateur rubgy team refusing a drugs test!

PMSL Steroid capital of europe LOL! I expect its true about the rugby team, i know of a few teams that all the players are jacked, hell, even the coach was on em!
 
You can get Var in ireland - easily.

That said - you should learn about diet & training first - go natrual for a couple of years, during which you can research about steroids, so that when your diet & training are sorted & you have some experience you'll know exactly what steroids to use / not to use & how to use them safely.

GL DOE
 
duke of earl said:
You can get Var in ireland - easily.

That said - you should learn about diet & training first - go natrual for a couple of years, during which you can research about steroids, so that when your diet & training are sorted & you have some experience you'll know exactly what steroids to use / not to use & how to use them safely.

GL DOE

Where is it available? I have been training for about three years, and yes, I am a hard gainer! The reason I know so little about this area of bodybuilding is because I don't know anyone who is taking steroids... At least they certainly don't look like they are! It's a very taboo subject and not the easiest thing to bring up in conversation when no one else appears to be taking anything. Mostly people are on creatine etc... the over-the-counter stuff. Anyway, thanks to all for the advice. Will look into this further.

My stats are 5'8", ~160lb, ~9% bodyfat. My eating habits are excellent although I do not supplement with anything other creatine (no protein powders etc).
 
Docks said:
What is the the best oral steroid available and where can I get it? I'm new to this game, I've a phobia of needles, and I don't think I'd be able to inject... Any advice/comments welcome! Thanks.


#1 There is no "best" - what are your goals?
#2 You are a :newbie: read the rules.... and DON'T ask where you can get anything.... :destroy:
#3 Phobia of needles... you're not ready for AAS then IMO
#4 See 1-3 :)
 
Rod555 said:
PMSL Steroid capital of europe LOL! I expect its true about the rugby team, i know of a few teams that all the players are jacked, hell, even the coach was on em!

your all a bunch of wankers!











lmao, i love that saying
 
Docks said:
Where is it available?

Try the chemist section of Asda's



shortstack said:
your all a bunch of wankers!











lmao, i love that saying

I was about to tear into you then SS.












Untill I saw you were joking! Have you got the word twat over there? Thats a good, strong alternative to wanker. Give it a try sometime, you'll probably enjoy that one too. ;)
 
Yes we use twat - for the same thing the English use fanny. The most common for it is pussy followed by cunt then cooch... god I love every one of those words - makes me sooooooo hungry :p

- Read up on IM injections vs. orals dude - your liver will thank you.
 
Not to break balls, but its threads like this that really kill me. And its not the guy posting the dumbass questions, its the bros answering them. Are some of us so eager to share our knowledge that we don't bother to consider whether someone is ready for it. Some of us who aren't as mean spirited take pity on the guy and I can dig that as far as not flaming him to death, but if you think he is best served by getting any advice about using given his current level of research and more imkportantly his mindset, you are the crazy ones. And to close, a potential juicer who doesn't want to use needles is a joke. Not a flame, just a reality check.
 
idcbp said:
Not to break balls, but its threads like this that really kill me. And its not the guy posting the dumbass questions, its the bros answering them. Are some of us so eager to share our knowledge that we don't bother to consider whether someone is ready for it. Some of us who aren't as mean spirited take pity on the guy and I can dig that as far as not flaming him to death, but if you think he is best served by getting any advice about using given his current level of research and more imkportantly his mindset, you are the crazy ones. And to close, a potential juicer who doesn't want to use needles is a joke. Not a flame, just a reality check.

is this where the audience is supposed to clap?
 
people need to stop flaming newbies. A simple please read the rules; you're not allowed to this and that blah blah blah, would have been just fine.

Anyway, to the original poster, just read up on what is what. A great book for you to read would be Anabolics or the steroids bible or something. I can't stress enough to you to learn as much as you can before you decide to do anything. Don't just read about the benefits. Read about all the damage you'll be doing too. You have to weight everything out and then see if you're still willing to go through it.

Good Luck
 
PURE EXTRACT said:
people need to stop flaming newbies. A simple please read the rules; you're not allowed to this and that blah blah blah, would have been just fine.

Anyway, to the original poster, just read up on what is what. A great book for you to read would be Anabolics or the steroids bible or something. I can't stress enough to you to learn as much as you can before you decide to do anything. Don't just read about the benefits. Read about all the damage you'll be doing too. You have to weight everything out and then see if you're still willing to go through it.

Good Luck

I don't think I flamed him. I gave him a link to a weight gainer that did not require an injection.

If this guy found his way to EF and register, he could read the rules, and do a little research too before making a post like this.

I usually always help out newbies, but I am not going to help people who won't help themselves.

And my opinion is still that if you cannot handle an injection, you have no business using gear.
 
glennds said:
meant to be funny. have a sense of humor id.


My bad bro, I took it the wrong way. Some guys just down anything thats not go for it type response to be macho, and it gets to me. I realize you were just ribbing me and I can dig that.
 
Docks said:
Where is it available? I have been training for about three years, and yes, I am a hard gainer! The reason I know so little about this area of bodybuilding is because I don't know anyone who is taking steroids... At least they certainly don't look like they are! It's a very taboo subject and not the easiest thing to bring up in conversation when no one else appears to be taking anything. Mostly people are on creatine etc... the over-the-counter stuff. Anyway, thanks to all for the advice. Will look into this further.

My stats are 5'8", ~160lb, ~9% bodyfat. My eating habits are excellent although I do not supplement with anything other creatine (no protein powders etc).

If gaining has become that hard and you're eating really big then think about starting small.

You didn't say how old you are so it's just a guess but I'd say you could get some Sustanon250 and run a ml every 5 days for 10 vials. That's a small boost but it could give you 15-20 lbs over the cycle. Read up on PCT too. This board will give you tons of info. I've read of a lot of guys that run straight orals and get good gains but god bro, if you do, stay out of the pubs and get a good liver detox supp. You still need to do PCT on them too.
 
Here, do some research on all of these:

Anavar
Anadrol
Dianabol
Winstrol

After you have learned everything that there is to know about the above substances...work out as hard as you humanly can and eat very cleanly for another year before you decide to take the leap.

Hope that helps. -Dawgy
 
Docks said:
Where is it available? I have been training for about three years, and yes, I am a hard gainer! The reason I know so little about this area of bodybuilding is because I don't know anyone who is taking steroids... At least they certainly don't look like they are! It's a very taboo subject and not the easiest thing to bring up in conversation when no one else appears to be taking anything. Mostly people are on creatine etc... the over-the-counter stuff. Anyway, thanks to all for the advice. Will look into this further.

My stats are 5'8", ~160lb, ~9% bodyfat. My eating habits are excellent although I do not supplement with anything other creatine (no protein powders etc).


OK, the first source post could be chalked up to you being new and not reading the newbie sticky like you should have. Then You were told that you weren't allowed to ask where or how to obtain steroids and what do you do??????? You go ahead and ask again anyway.

I've never bombed anyone before, but I swear to christ if I knew how, you would be the first!!!
 
give the guy time to learn.....and why read if you can simply ask the question to pros of the gear.....
He's gonna use gear with or without our help.....so we've to protect him against abuse etc etc
peace my brothers
 
cop said:
give the guy time to learn.....and why read if you can simply ask the question to pros of the gear.....
He's gonna use gear with or without our help.....so we've to protect him against abuse etc etc
peace my brothers


Its good to help, but why have the same info posted again and again? Why ask the same question you could get an answer to by doing a search, and a far more in depth answer at that. Additionally, while pros is flattering to most here, if we really do have a great deal of knowledge then we should be able to identify when someone should wait to juice. There more to giving gear advice than just telling them how to use. I feel your words regarding the fact that he's going to use anyway, but unless he educates himself any use will be abuse. Until this post I hadn't seen his stats, but they confirm my concerns. I swear I'm not just breaking balls, although Apexx is dead right in the fact that he has shamelessly source begged and is ignoring board rules, but the fact is that when someone is 5'8 and 160lbs yet claims his eating habits are excellent, you have to wonder about his time lifting and his overall level of development. I'll gladly help anyone, but sometimes helping a bro out is telling him to forget it for a while. If he's truely commited he'll hang around and soak up some info. Do some searches too. And stop requesting sources.
 
idcbp said:
My bad bro, I took it the wrong way. Some guys just down anything thats not go for it type response to be macho, and it gets to me. I realize you were just ribbing me and I can dig that.

karma to you bro. your post reminded me of people on a talk show who say something really sanctimonious and the studio audience reluctanly claps. i thought i was being funny.

(went to give you karma but apparently already did recently. see thought you were cool even before this thread.)
 
glennds said:
karma to you bro. your post reminded me of people on a talk show who say something really sanctimonious and the studio audience reluctanly claps. i thought i was being funny.

(went to give you karma but apparently already did recently. see thought you were cool even before this thread.)

I thought it was funny ;)

I'll hit u both up with some green love

shit, glennds got some, but "You must spread some Karma around before giving it to idcbp again."
sorry bro
 
idcbp said:
Its good to help, but why have the same info posted again and again? Why ask the same question you could get an answer to by doing a search, and a far more in depth answer at that.

Not all body builders are computer literate. he's trying to research or he wouldn't be here. At least he didn't just do what 'some guy' in the gym told him without checking first.

Its easy to forget most people know NOTHING about steroids. So even saying 'type dianabol, anavar, winstrol and anadrol into google and read' would be of help to him- why should he know what they are called.

Everyone is so keen to say 'eat clean and train natural for 3 years before you even think about it'... and yet in other threads write 'man I'm juiced, 1g test ew, 20 mg D-ball ea, 600mg deca ew with clen and T3... freakin PUMPED love JUICE'... just doesn't seem consistent.
 
Apexx said:
I thought it was funny ;)

I'll hit u both up with some green love

shit, glennds got some, but "You must spread some Karma around before giving it to idcbp again."
sorry bro

Thanks to all for the advice.

Lessons learned:
1) Read the rules of this forum!
2) I'm gonna wait a while before I make a final decision on whether or not to start taking steroids and try and gather more on information on the subject. I guess patience is a virtue!

Anyway, despite pissing a lot of people off with my original thread and subsequent posts, your words have helped me realise a few things about my training, my levels of dedication and whether or not jumping into steroids is a good or a bad thing. I probably will eventually start taking but certainly not in the near future.
 
Untill I saw you were joking! Have you got the word twat over there? Thats a good, strong alternative to wanker. Give it a try sometime, you'll probably enjoy that one too. ;)[/QUOTE]


Don't underestimate 'bell-end' its a must for the insult with a difference.
 
black sheep said:
I don't think I flamed him. I gave him a link to a weight gainer that did not require an injection.

If this guy found his way to EF and register, he could read the rules, and do a little research too before making a post like this.

I usually always help out newbies, but I am not going to help people who won't help themselves.

And my opinion is still that if you cannot handle an injection, you have no business using gear.

Someone feeling guilty?? lol I wasn't speaking to you specifically. My post went to those that KNOW they were flaming.

On another note, EF's search feature isn't what it used to be since they're charging for that too. I honestly find it to be the most annoying thing.
 
Docks said:
Thanks to all for the advice.

Lessons learned:
1) Read the rules of this forum!
2) I'm gonna wait a while before I make a final decision on whether or not to start taking steroids and try and gather more on information on the subject. I guess patience is a virtue!

Anyway, despite pissing a lot of people off with my original thread and subsequent posts, your words have helped me realise a few things about my training, my levels of dedication and whether or not jumping into steroids is a good or a bad thing. I probably will eventually start taking but certainly not in the near future.


atta boy :)
 
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