Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

Best natural test increaser?

informed09

New member
I took 16 weeks of sust at 500mg/wk. Did my pct which included HCG, clomid, and AIFM. I have no problem getting it when i need to but the sex drive that i once had just isnt there. Is there something i should take? Maybe tribulus. Would you run another pct? Any feedback is welcome.
 
had the same problem, I ran 14-15 weeks of test E @ 500/wk.. I dunno , something about cycles over 12wks do that to u I guess.Even with a proper PCT. levels are prob not back to normal if ur libido is still off ..



Heres what I did...2nd pct
proviron 50mg/ day for 3 wks
clomid 50mg/day for 3 wks
after the 3/4 day the proviron kicks in and u feel normal then the clomid is working also. If ur LH levels are up then the clomid will work a lot better 2nd time..
 
Hey Anthony. Have you ever heard or read about an herb called "Tongkat Ali"? It is supposed to raise testosterone levels, and from the little info I've found, is the same history about indians using it like 1000 years ago to improve libido, sexual performance and to make the penis look bigger due to better blood flow to that area. I'm not bullcraping, I've read that in other places not related with bodybuilding but related to sexual health.
 
DJ_UFO said:
Hey Anthony. Have you ever heard or read about an herb called "Tongkat Ali"? It is supposed to raise testosterone levels, and from the little info I've found, is the same history about indians using it like 1000 years ago to improve libido, sexual performance and to make the penis look bigger due to better blood flow to that area. I'm not bullcraping, I've read that in other places not related with bodybuilding but related to sexual health.

That shit ain't cheap Brother! Exspecially for at the dose that one would need!
Google it, it's nuts!!

http://www.tongkatali.org/ :worried: :worried:
 
wwebound4life said:
That shit ain't cheap Brother! Exspecially for at the dose that one would need!
Google it, it's nuts!!

http://www.tongkatali.org/ :worried: :worried:

i also did some reading about this stuff. seems like just another one of dem herbies. may give it a try myself though. here's some cheaper links i found:

http://www.physicianformulas.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=127
(and they have the extract too)

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Mens-Passion-Booster-with-LJ100-Tongkat-Ali
 
I have some Now Foods "Testojack 100" here that I will try soon. It contains Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma longifolia / Long Jack in English) 100x extract and is quite cheap.
 
Admittedly, I'm not much of a supplement guy...I believe Tribulus and herbs like that (Tongkat, etc...) are good libido boosters, but will do next to nothing for elevating testosterone levels. Remember, this thread is about the "Best Natural Test Booster" and while some herbs will increase libido, they aren't the best natural test booster...I think you'll be more than impressed with MyoGenX, which I believe increases libido more than any other product on the market, but ALSO is the best natural test booster...the other herbs aren't in it's league.

Again, I'd reccomend checking out the supplement forum on steroid.com, where feedback has been 100% positive from everyone who has used it. We didn't give away any bottles, and didn't influence the people purchasing the product at all...and really the feedback has been pretty amazing.
 
informed09 said:
I took 16 weeks of sust at 500mg/wk. Did my pct which included HCG, clomid, and AIFM. I have no problem getting it when i need to but the sex drive that i once had just isnt there. Is there something i should take? Maybe tribulus. Would you run another pct? Any feedback is welcome.
Proviron/Oxytocin That'll do it.
 
informed09 said:
I actually tried it for four days and sorry to say the nuts started shrinking and my dick went south. I stopped it immediatly.

Can you post your order number here in this thread, so I can make sure that you get your money back?
 
1)
Herbs:
Some people swear by Tribulis, Avena Sativa, Myogenx, Nettle Root, ect
( I never tired them but some really like them)

2) Conventional AI of course to "close the feedback loop" by limiting E and encourage the body to start producing more T

3) possibly run Clomid again and or PCT
 
I never had a problem with AIFM. Used my whole cycle and i loved it. Just seemed that when i finished pct about 2weeks later i noticed this loss in sex drive/libido. How does oxytocin work in this department
 
Where can i get the order #? If it was in the email that they send I think I deleted it.
Anthony Roberts said:
Can you post your order number here in this thread, so I can make sure that you get your money back?
 
informed09 said:
Where can i get the order #? If it was in the email that they send I think I deleted it.

E-mail me your name and shipping address.
 
informed09 said:
I never had a problem with AIFM. Used my whole cycle and i loved it. Just seemed that when i finished pct about 2weeks later i noticed this loss in sex drive/libido. How does oxytocin work in this department
It's a hormone that effects your libido, mood, and orgasm.

I'm glad you liked the AIFM.

----------------------------

For those of you still learning the supplement business... this is the marketplace in action. When all is said and done, the marketplace will decide good from bad, success from failure. Not emails, not ads, not bullshit. This is a classic example.
 
Fuck all this SNAKE OIL and run HRT doses of test EW and you''l be fine! If that doesn't work you can get on growth at about 4-5iu's M-F for the rest of your life and look and fuck like a teenager!
 
informed09 said:
I took 16 weeks of sust at 500mg/wk. Did my pct which included HCG, clomid, and AIFM. I have no problem getting it when i need to but the sex drive that i once had just isnt there. Is there something i should take? Maybe tribulus. Would you run another pct? Any feedback is welcome.

tribex gold biotest 6 caps, 600 mg 6-oxo and 300 lJ100 (the best tongkat ali extract) tribulus and LJ100 5 day on 2 days off. Do your blood work and u will see test increase and also ur libido with it ! ( i tried and it worked)
 
shorinryu69 said:
tribex gold biotest 6 caps
I agree 100% with shorinryu69 about Tribex. After my last cycle I took it for a few weeks and notice a big difference. My nuts actually hurt for the first couple days on tribex.
 
dr_skier said:
Next cage match: Ulter Vs A.Roberts!!!

PPV event!
I'm new to this forum and noticed that. The sponsors on this forum seem pretty pathatic..lol I been getting a kick on how they bump the threads promoting there products... :) shit some of them are 2 to 3 yrs olds....lol.
 
MR. BMJ said:
New PUSSY!!!

Geez....you guys are disappointing me.

BMJ


hahahaha. I agree 100%

strip clubs, good porn, escorts. A little bit expensive but it really works.
 
DrGrier said:
I'm new to this forum and noticed that. The sponsors on this forum seem pretty pathatic..lol I been getting a kick on how they bump the threads promoting there products... :) shit some of them are 2 to 3 yrs olds....lol.

Just as an FYI, my product is only a few months old, and it's the first time I ever came out with a nutritional supplement....

I'd really suggest you check out steroid.com's supplement forum to read up on the user feedback on it...it's VERY impressive.
 
DrGrier said:
I'm new to this forum and noticed that. The sponsors on this forum seem pretty pathatic..lol I been getting a kick on how they bump the threads promoting there products... :) shit some of them are 2 to 3 yrs olds....lol.

If it weren't for them occasional bumps, then user feedback would be ignored. Also, please understand that the sponsors help pay for this site's expenses. If the products are quality like the AF store supplements, then who cares. Some of them long and old threads are good reads. I'd rather one thread be bumped to hell than a bunch of them covering the whole page. Also, feedback from the users, helps the creators (like macrophage69alpha) make improvements and updates to newer formulas (ie...yohimburn, Thermorexin, AIFM). Think of it as a good thing.

At least with the AF store, they put out quality products that THEY PERSONALLY USE THEMSELVES.

You also have a liquid research site, a place to get your needles and syringes and accessories, etc.....so it isn't entirely that bad.

I do not agree with everything around here that is promoted, but then again, i'm not the only person that matters.

Peace my man!
BMJ
 
Just so you know im not downing the product. I saw plenty of poss feedback or else i would not have ordered it. Found it was strange that it had that affect on me
Anthony Roberts said:
Just as an FYI, my product is only a few months old, and it's the first time I ever came out with a nutritional supplement....

I'd really suggest you check out steroid.com's supplement forum to read up on the user feedback on it...it's VERY impressive.
 
What is the differance in the tribex gold and the blue?
shorinryu69 said:
tribex gold biotest 6 caps, 600 mg 6-oxo and 300 lJ100 (the best tongkat ali extract) tribulus and LJ100 5 day on 2 days off. Do your blood work and u will see test increase and also ur libido with it ! ( i tried and it worked)
 
informed09 said:
Dodnt know your email. PM it to me if you dont want everyone to know it.

I'm pretty sure everyone knows it...it's just [email protected] ...it's available on my website and all that...

I'm not sure what PF's return policy is, but I don't like the idea of someone being unsatisfied with the product, so I will talk to them on your behalf and try to make sure that you walk away satisfied.
 
informed09 said:
What is the differance in the tribex gold and the blue?

listen bro i do not know a lot about gear and this is the reason why i am here to learn but about supplements i know a bit.......

the problem with tribulus is the extract of the herb this is the reason why we have inconsistent studies one says it works and the other it does not becasue use different type of tribulus.

there is cheap tribulus which is spiked with protodioscin (one of the active element which increase test); there is cheap tribulus without protodioscin. then there are product such as tribestan by sopharma and tribex gold which are extract of tribulus that contains not only protodioscin but the other compounds that deliver the test increase. believe me they work i did bloodwork after and i had a significant increase in test. The other thing is tha tribex is checked by chromadex as pure cee.

LJ100 is now a fact that increases test you can check on pubmed and google again you need the extract used in the studies 100:1

6-oxo again tested by uni and at that amount 600 mg does its work

about tribex gold and biotest; they have very expensive products and i believe overpriced but if you want quality of material then is what u get
========================================
these are studies on tribex..

Try these links:

http://www.t-nation.com/...le=body_113trib

http://www.t-nation.com/...le=body_116trib

The first part examines a study done by Dr. Joey Antonio (strenght athletes) and the second part examines a study by Dr. Scott McGregor on endurance bicyclists.
==========================================

this about tribex gold from their web

Most Tribulus products are either completely inactive or inferior herbal substitutes that are brainlessly spiked with protodioscin. Either way, you get the same result — nothing!

Tribulus that boosts Testosterone is only found in Bulgaria and contains many powerful compounds that are vital for results. All have to be present in precise amounts in order to achieve maximum effect.

None of the other companies talk about this because they're embarrassed to admit that their non-Bulgarian products are grossly deficient.

You can't take Chinese, or Indian, or "German" plant material and simply spike it with protodioscin to make real Testosterone-boosting Tribulus out of it.

That's too easy. That's too dishonest. That would be like packaging spiked lawn clippings and claiming it's real Tribulus.

So if you see ads that only tout protodioscin content, run! It's obvious these products aren't for anyone serious about boosting Testosterone. They're nothing but misleading hype! Don't believe them and don't waste your money.

TRIBEX contains the most potent, full-spectrum extraction of real, Testosterone-boosting Bulgarian Tribulus in the world. Each of the active compounds is present in the required amounts.

Clearly, manufacturing Tribulus, and other Testosterone-boosting extractions, is a serious and complicated business.

TRIBEX is the only super potent, full-spectrum Testosterone-boosting extraction of Tribulus terrestris in the world
In fact, TRIBEX Tribulus has just earned a #1 rating from ChromaDex, which is world renowned for its analytics of herbal materials. Here's what the president of ChromaDex had to say about TRIBEX Tribulus:

"We've tested hundreds of Tribulus terrestris samples and TRIBEX is the most potent, full-spectrum extraction we've analyzed. In fact, nothing else comes close to the rich and potent content of TRIBEX.

"Most of the Tribulus we test is either a poor-quality extract or a counterfeit that's been spiked with protodioscin-containing extracts, like fenugreek and wild yam. Just because a product contains protodioscin doesn't make it Tribulus.

"TRIBEX, in our opinion, is truly the most potent, full-spectrum Tribulus in the world."

— Frank Jaksch, President
ChromaDex™
 
Last edited:
post cycle herbs i use Yohimbine hcl, Horny goat weed, and Tribulus...i think these 3 work the best with PCT.
 
MTS said:
post cycle herbs i use Yohimbine hcl, Horny goat weed, and Tribulus...i think these 3 work the best with PCT.

I know it just seems like I'm plugging my own product, but I honestly feel that if you like those products you'll like MyoGenX more.

The admin here (BRR) was very satisfied with it, and there was a mod on steroid.com who used MyoGenX as his ONLY PCT (!) and was so impressed that he made his thread/log about it a Sticky in the Supplement forum...

Again, I'm not trying to come off as just trying to make a buck, but I honestly feel confidant that if you try my product you'll like it much more than the others you mentioned.

Maybe I'm just very proud of being the first person to ever bring this herb to the nutritional market, but I think you'd be very happy with it....at the very least, go check out steroid.com for some user feedback on it and make your decision based on ALL available feedback.
 
Tongkat ali / longjack is some good stuff. I get a powdered version along with some powder tribulus. I also use AIFM EOD. I believe staying active is also a good way to increase your test. If you are depressed and inert, it can hurt your hormonal balance - especially during / after PCT. Also like sarge said, proper nutrition. Meat contains nutrients and proteins (and saturated fats) which are neccessary for proper hormonal production.
 
forgotten if you use good tribulus such as tribex gold use also measures to save your hair. It increases DHT the prove is that one of my freinds which is prone with 6 caps a day after i while started thinning and shedding.......
 
Anthony Roberts said:
I know it just seems like I'm plugging my own product, but I honestly feel that if you like those products you'll like MyoGenX more.

The admin here (BRR) was very satisfied with it, and there was a mod on steroid.com who used MyoGenX as his ONLY PCT (!) and was so impressed that he made his thread/log about it a Sticky in the Supplement forum...

Again, I'm not trying to come off as just trying to make a buck, but I honestly feel confidant that if you try my product you'll like it much more than the others you mentioned.

Maybe I'm just very proud of being the first person to ever bring this herb to the nutritional market, but I think you'd be very happy with it....at the very least, go check out steroid.com for some user feedback on it and make your decision based on ALL available feedback.


I read up about it and it seems to be really worth a try. The research suggested elevated T up to 3 days after first ingestion.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
I know it just seems like I'm plugging my own product, but I honestly feel that if you like those products you'll like MyoGenX more.

The admin here (BRR) was very satisfied with it, and there was a mod on steroid.com who used MyoGenX as his ONLY PCT (!) and was so impressed that he made his thread/log about it a Sticky in the Supplement forum...

Again, I'm not trying to come off as just trying to make a buck, but I honestly feel confidant that if you try my product you'll like it much more than the others you mentioned.

Maybe I'm just very proud of being the first person to ever bring this herb to the nutritional market, but I think you'd be very happy with it....at the very least, go check out steroid.com for some user feedback on it and make your decision based on ALL available feedback.

I don't really post on this board very often, but I have read a fair amount since coming here. I have even bought a number of AF products when I first came, including AIFM and have been pleased with the results. I honestly think it would be beneficial to the sponsors and the board in general if people where allowed to give honest feedback and ask reasonable questions without threads getting deleted and users getting banned. How can readers trust user feed back on boards that only keep the positive posts and delete anything else?
 
Rock75 said:
seriously?
yeah.

If your not eating steak/beef a few times a week you missing out on growing.

You can take all the pills that are on the market, but if you're not eating for growth you won't grow.

I make no money by saying this, nor do i have stock in cows, lol.
 
what brand of lj100 do you use or recommend?
shorinryu69 said:
forgotten if you use good tribulus such as tribex gold use also measures to save your hair. It increases DHT the prove is that one of my freinds which is prone with 6 caps a day after i while started thinning and shedding.......
 
You can always get pure bulgarian tribulus from bulk distributors, or someplace like Beyond-a-Century... however, I've tried different types of trib before (not tribex gold) and they never helped me much during my poor PCT recoveries... as for tongkat ali, the stuff seems to have some merit (some studies in rats show test increases as well) - BUT, as with most OTC supplements, they don't have nearly enough of the pure extract to even tickle your libido.... so your best bet is to go to a supplier that sells pure extract (powders, etc)... the downside is that it's REALLY expensive (it comes from Maylasia or Indonesia)
 
MTS said:
I read up about it and it seems to be really worth a try. The research suggested elevated T up to 3 days after first ingestion.

At the very least, I think that's correct...it's worth a try. We use stuff like Aromasin and Arimidex (boosts test by 50%) and Nolvadex (150%), but research indicates that MyoGenX is even better (200%)....I think the numbers alone make it worth a try.
 
Honestly bro you may want to give igf-1 a shot. Also, the horny goat weed supp from the vitamin shoppe is an excellant product. What did your PCT look like?
 
So if you were to take the oxytocin, when would be the best time to take it? During a cycle, during PCT, or after PCT? Does it even matter? hmmmm :) I haven't ran into this problem yet, infact my libido is up with just 500mg Test E/week but..just curious.

Actually to edit this..the same goes for the myogenx, and anything else that has been mentioned. When would you take these? Thanks
 
leatherface said:
So if you were to take the oxytocin, when would be the best time to take it? During a cycle, during PCT, or after PCT? Does it even matter? hmmmm :) I haven't ran into this problem yet, infact my libido is up with just 500mg Test E/week but..just curious.

Actually to edit this..the same goes for the myogenx, and anything else that has been mentioned. When would you take these? Thanks

Id take them during PCT, and cycle them every few months. Everything should be cycled even herbs. Even things like high dose vitamin C lose there immune effects if taken for too long. The body adapts.
 
Top Bottom