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Best injectable mass building steroid?

I am not so sure Andy. For lean mass, Tren is king. But you just won't get as big with fina as you would with test. 75mg a day of Suspension will get you bigger than 75mg a day of tren. You just won't have the water bloat like you will with a fast acting Test.
 
badazzwhitedude said:
I am not so sure Andy. For lean mass, Tren is king. But you just won't get as big with fina as you would with test. 75mg a day of Suspension will get you bigger than 75mg a day of tren. You just won't have the water bloat like you will with a fast acting Test.

Oops.. I thought lean mass was all we were talking about here... In the case of just "mass" I guess you have gotta go with A-bombs, test, and KFC.. You could also take you girlfriends birthcontrol pills..
 
Im a fina fan :)
 
Shots every day,, how in the hell do people find enough injection sites to give themself a shot every day? Don't you build up scar tissue if you inject into the same site too much?
 
its hard on the liver (fina) but hell for putting on muscle..like m-18 said test & fina would make an excellent stack...RADAR
 
Yeah, i was thinking kidneys too (but then again, ive yet to see or hear proof of severe renal toxcicity of fina, seems kind like old wives tale to me).
 
Are there any real trenbolone hexahydrobencylcarbonate?

Could someone confirm confidently that there are real Parabolan surfacing?

Is it true that despite taking arimidex, test enth lose out to tren for most LBM gains, mg/mg?
 
What is all this stuff I am reading about making your own fina, can you not buy it say from a farmacia in Mexico?
 
Am I missing something here? Correct me if I am wrong, but mg for mg, how can Tren be better for overall mass and weight gain than Test? I believe tren to me more anabolic than Test, but definitely not more androgenic. Remember, it's the androgenic properties of a steroid that make you bloat, get huge, and gain mass.
 
badazzwhitedude said:
Am I missing something here? Correct me if I am wrong, but mg for mg, how can Tren be better for overall mass and weight gain than Test? I believe tren to me more anabolic than Test, but definitely not more androgenic. Remember, it's the androgenic properties of a steroid that make you bloat, get huge, and gain mass.

Bro, if this makes sence, all anabolic steroids are androgenic... But not all androgenic steroids are anabolic. It's kind of a "all dogs aren't german shepards" type thing.

Tren has a much greater affinity for the AR than test. Bill Roberts said "three times as much."

If you are talking about mass pounds here, then test, with all the sides might make you weigh more.. But tren will add more "quality" muscle.
Andy
 
"Shots every day,, how in the hell do people find enough injection sites to give themself a shot every day? Don't you build up scar tissue if you inject into the same site too much?"


tren will fit through a 25g, or even a 27g. Since I am using it with oil based test and mastoeron suspension, I shoot twice a day, no problem.
 
For purely mass

1) Suspension
2) Anadrol 50
3) Test Enanthate
4) Loads of Dbol
5) Test Cyponiate

For hard LBM and less dramatic gains

1) Tren (fina)
2) Winny
3) Anavar
4) Primobolan Depot

Other good additions for Monster Mass
1) Insulin (hands down!)
2) HGH
3) Cytomel

The pro's didn't get that way be taking a bunch of fina...you have to add some water weight at some time... build the wall before try to paint it!
 
I bet if you shot 800 mg of primo a week that it would illicit the most high quality gains out of any of them.

Of course that is 80-120 a week, so I doubt many of us could afford it. (When is Ttokkyo going to step up and make a 200 per cc presentation... for dogs of course).
 
I was sure I knew what I was talking about. I know Test will make you weigh more, hence, more mass (muscle, water, bloated look, etc.). But I do know Fina will put more pure muscle and improve the quality of your physique more than Test will. But when he asked the question about which injectable steroid gives best mass gains, he did not say lean mass. He just said "mass." That's why I said Test Suspension. I am just trying to clear this up so that he knows how differently they are, since Fina will not bloat you up.
 
BadAzz-

That is exactly what I was asking, what is the best MASS building injectable steroid, not lean muscle adding steroid. I am not to the point where I need to lean up, hell I need to put some meat on these bones. Thanks for your opinion bro.
 
badazzwhitedude said:
Remember, it's the androgenic properties of a steroid that make you bloat, get huge, and gain mass.

That's not true, steroids which will aromatize in estrogen, or work as a progesterin will cause water retention (make you bloat/huge). Winstrol is androgenic, won't make you bloat, masteron is androgenic, won't make you bloat.
 
OH Hell- Sorry-it was late last nite....liver/kidneys...everything is hard at that time of night..LOL RADAR
 
"That is exactly what I was asking, what is the best MASS building injectable steroid, not lean muscle adding steroid. I am not to the point where I need to lean up, hell I need to put some meat on these bones. Thanks for your opinion bro."


Tren + any of the traditional "quick-mass" drugs is a sure way to throw on size FAST and keep a good portion of it. My first cycle was a short 4 week one which used the following:

tren/winstrol/anadrol (+ about 6 bottles of Liv 52 and assorted liver protectants)

went from 175 (hey, I'm 5'5" and it was after a layoff) to a bloated 215 in a month. Once I went off I went back down to 205. I was actually expecting to lose more (heard all the anadrol horror stories about pissing twice and losing all the gains).

My current cycle is a cutting cycle, but I am also getting bigger and stronger at the same time:

tren/suspension/masteron/winstrol + armidex and 25 mcg t-3

I have tried tren alone, and test alone, but if you want fast gains nothing beats combining them!

the question "is tren better than test" is sort-of a misguided one. It is like asking "which is better, protein or carbs?"

there is no law that says you must use exclusively one steroid. I don't understand all these "test is best or deca is best or anadrol is best" arguments. They are about as silly as those old "Taste Great!....Less Filling!" commercials.
 
Hugh-

I am really not trying to "get big fast." I just want to know what has worked best for everyone else to gain the most size, that is maintainable, and maybe plug it in to my next cycle.

Can yall fill me in on suspension? Does it hurt like hell or is it bearable?
 
Tren being shown about the same affinity to AR, as DHT, and it means that it's a lot more androgenic then Test.
Mg per mg Tren is a way better mass builder then Test, unless by "mass" you mean water and fat.
But, you have to consider progesteron gyno and Fina-dick, so the best way IMO, would be to use reasonable amount of Tren stacked with good amount of Test.
 
What are you saying panerai? Does Tren work as a progesterin? Never heard of that... never heard of water retention or gyno from tren....
 
Trenbolone has about the same affinity to PR as progesteron, like someone said :"Tren is Deca on steroids". Gyno from Tren is extremely rare, because of relatively low dosages used, but it happens. In case of Trenbolone Acetate, it's easy to control it, just by dropping it, if it's occure.
I never heard of water retention from Tren neither.
 
panerai is rite!

I recalled ItalianSweetness taking Tren 750mg EOD and he got gyno. Most likely, its progesterone induced since Tren is chemically similar to deca.
 
Test Ethenate....for sure. You will gain large amounts of mass muscle. The secret isn't what you gain but keep. So, a better question might be...what is the best mass building/muscle keeping inject? :fro:
 
I havnt finished my cycle yet, so cant say from personal experience (yet) but many report keeping a large majority of thier strength and size from fina(ie tren).

P.S. I asked around a bit regarding loss of labido on tren and the mahority noticed no such thing, actually the opposite. So far my sex drive is up on fina/winny.
 
Zyglamail said:
I havnt finished my cycle yet, so cant say from personal experience (yet) but many report keeping a large majority of thier strength and size from fina(ie tren).

P.S. I asked around a bit regarding loss of labido on tren and the mahority noticed no such thing, actually the opposite. So far my sex drive is up on fina/winny.

My sex drive is pretty much gone on the WInny/Fina cycle. I just do not have a desire to fuck anymore. Something must be wrong with me. Hehe
 
NinjaX said:
bro RIROO keeps saying he has real parabolan, can someone shed some light on this

Yes, I think I can shed some light on this. You have two options to choose from:

1) RIROO is talking out of his ass, or

2) RIROO is an ass.

Either way the value of his information, no matter how timely (2 weeks ago he posted an all points bulletin about how Pharmagroup is not to be trusted) is worthless.
 
I Am currently running 2mil of sust with 2mil of deca a week and have seen a change in my physique and strength yet i went from 14st 11 pound to my current weight of 13st 10.I am thinking of switching to Test and tren to see if this helps with my weight gain problem,what do you guy's think??
 
Shots every day,, how in the hell do people find enough injection sites to give themself a shot every day? Don't you build up scar tissue if you inject into the same site too much?

You have two glutes, two quads, two delts, two pecs, two triceps, two traps, and two biceps. And those are just popular sites. There are a few other that you can do that just aren't as popular. You have plenty of sites to prevent build up of scar tissue.
 
bro RIROO keeps saying he has real parabolan, can someone shed some light on this

Is legit parobolan really that rare? Y'all talk like it's a delicacy haha the first source I ever went to had legit parabolan. I say legit because I talked to some of the guys that used it and said they had awesome results. Plus he had relatively low prices, but his parabolan was hella high.

EDIT : I'm thinking of primobolan! Not parabolan. Which one is rare?
 
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Yes, I think I can shed some light on this. You have two options to choose from:

1) RIROO is talking out of his ass, or

2) RIROO is an ass.

Either way the value of his information, no matter how timely (2 weeks ago he posted an all points bulletin about how Pharmagroup is not to be trusted) is worthless.

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Had great size gains with Test E and dbol. Even had good gains with low doses.

Sent from my ADR6350 using EliteFitness
 
I love test and deca
Or
Test, eq and deca
Or
Test, eq and tren
I know lots use tren when cutting but eq makes me starving.

I personally rarely use orals but that's just me
 
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