best AS to use when cutting?

[lee b]

Near the end of my first cycle and hav packed on some serious size, about 30lbs in total, problem is have put on a bit of fat aswell due to eating so many cals. So i am planning my next cycle which i will probably do in about 3 or 4 months time and its goin to be more of a cutting cycle.
I know when it comes to losing bodyfat, it all comes down to diet and cardio, but what im looking to find out is what would be the best AS to take while cutting to help me keep all my muscle or maybe even put on a few lbs.
Have tried cutting a few times and always seem to lose my strength big time so i end up losing a lot of muscle aswell as fat.

 

[fergie]

test

 

[riverrock]

test

Test is a good one. Try cutting with Test Prop or with Sustanon.

I've come to the conclusion that you can cut with anything and I mean that. I've even heard some very senior members of this forum talk about how they cut with Dianabol and Liquidex (The Poor Man's Var!)

Diet is the key. You probably starved yourself effectively the last time and your body had to get its energy from somewhere while doing cardio, so it burned muscle.

 

[chefbone]

Test....for sure.

 

[needsize]

only point of juice when cutting is to maintain mass, most "cutting" drugs arent that strong, so I stick with the basics, my bulkers tend to be enth/deca/eq, etc, I just stay on the same ones....
if they are strong enough to build it, they are strong enough to keep it

 

[satchboogie]

deca is the strongest anabolic...

primo is great for fat loss too..
in fact, its the only steroid which allows the user to gain mass even on low calories.

 

[lee b]

would eq be a good choice?

 

[onedieselboy]

Fina

 

[Ulter]

small test and tren

300/500 wk

 

[Stainless_Steel]

I'd do prop and tren. Just my $0.02

 

[ElMatador]

primobolan would be very good solution...

 

[heavy_duty]

Interesting, fascinating but frustrating that everybody has a different answer.

 

[Tux]

Agree with NS... it's easier to bulk with weaker drugs since you're eating so many cals. If you're cutting, you tend to need STRONGER drugs to keep that muscle while in caloric deficit, not weaker drugs, and that's where people mess up. They bulk on test/deca/dbol, then cut on Eq/winny. Sure, that 2nd stack won't make you hold much water, but it won't help you hold muscle nearly as well either. My cutters tend to involve strong androgens now, as well as a decent anabolic and/or oral. I think my favorite cutter is something like test/tren/winny. Winny is weak in most people's opinions, but it gives me a great boost in strength, which really helps when trying to keep lifting heavy weights. Test and tren... no need to say more about those two lol.

 

[Retabolil2]

Test prop at 50mg per day, 100mg of Masteron eod, turanabol and some tren.

 

[richspc]

t-bol and var to cut. the var curbs your appetiate also.

 

[Outtlaw]

I prefer tren/winstrol.

 

[thebigmofo]

Test, Tren, and winny.

 

[Slydog]

Test prop at 50mg per day, 100mg of Masteron eod, turanabol and some tren.

That'll do the trick!!!!!!!!! But if he's above 10% bf then maybe the Masteron will be better served later on in the cycle.
Thro some clen and a lil T3 and we have a winner

 

[eboy]

hgh-that shit strips fat like nothing else chuck in some prop tren and winnie and some t3 for good measure and then file for bankruptcy

 

[wayneboard1]

Agree with NS... it's easier to bulk with weaker drugs since you're eating so many cals. If you're cutting, you tend to need STRONGER drugs to keep that muscle while in caloric deficit, not weaker drugs, and that's where people mess up. They bulk on test/deca/dbol, then cut on Eq/winny. Sure, that 2nd stack won't make you hold much water, but it won't help you hold muscle nearly as well either. My cutters tend to involve strong androgens now, as well as a decent anabolic and/or oral. I think my favorite cutter is something like test/tren/winny. Winny is weak in most people's opinions, but it gives me a great boost in strength, which really helps when trying to keep lifting heavy weights. Test and tren... no need to say more about those two lol.

The more research I do on cutting and the different methods to do this, the more I am seeing this opinion; and I am starting to agree. I will be cutting in Feb. for 10 weeks and am thinking test e at 500 and var at 100 will work fine. I am going to be big AND cut and life will be good. How does this sound?

 

[taste-icles]

Tijuana tap water, primo. It will flush you out fast.

Actually, I'd say primo with winny or halo. Might get hard as well as cut. the primo is there to prevent catabolism mainly, the winny or halo will harden you up.

 

[swordfish151]

The reasoning behind so many different answers like one poster pointed out..is the underlying truth..you can CUT on any AAS...its all in the diet...some more effective then others like winny/anavar and tren...but you can cut on any AAS...

 

[Prizz]

I think the answer has been given here. Best to use a good mass building drug like Test, Dbol, Deca stacked with a drug that will get rid of the water retention like Winny/Tren/Primo etc...... There are so many combinations, so there are gonna be so many answers. Be creative, and make your own....

P Rizz

 

[Outtlaw]

Agree with NS... it's easier to bulk with weaker drugs since you're eating so many cals. If you're cutting, you tend to need STRONGER drugs to keep that muscle while in caloric deficit, not weaker drugs, and that's where people mess up. They bulk on test/deca/dbol, then cut on Eq/winny. Sure, that 2nd stack won't make you hold much water, but it won't help you hold muscle nearly as well either. My cutters tend to involve strong androgens now, as well as a decent anabolic and/or oral. I think my favorite cutter is something like test/tren/winny. Winny is weak in most people's opinions, but it gives me a great boost in strength, which really helps when trying to keep lifting heavy weights. Test and tren... no need to say more about those two lol.

I think it really depends on the person. I find it harder for me to build muscle than it is to maintain it. So I'll run my mega doses on bulkers, and use only what is necessary when I want to cut. But of course Im not gonna cut with eq and primo either, cause then I'd have to mega dose anyways.

 

[lee b]

how does this sound.
test prop 50mg ed
anavar 30 mg ed

how long would u run this for?

 

[musclehealth]

I was thinking of doing

Test e: 750mg week 1-12
Deca: 400mg week 1-12
Tbol: 50mg ed week 1-4
---cut up with

Test e: 750mg week 12-20
Deca: 400mg week 12-20
Tbol: 50mg ed 16-20
Primo--?
Winny--?

What doses of winny/ primo? Its for a contest 20 weeks away