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Best Anti-Estrogen with Test?

jboldman said:
JA, why am i way off base. What you have presented us with is someones opinion on what proviron does. To demonstrate to me that i am way off base is easy, simply post a reference to anything in "scientific " literature showing an anti-aromatase effect. Proviron is NOT DHT and does NOT share all of DHT's characteristics. I am perfectly willing to believe that it works for you but just becasue someone repeats something over and over does not make it so. THere is NO evidence in the scientific literature that demonstrates an anti-e effect, i can find NO reference in the scientific literature demonstrating its binding affinity to the aromatase enzyme. I will grant you that it does bind to shbg but it releases more estrogen than testosterone. Simply by taking more test you will reduce the amount of shbg and increase your free test and save money at the same time.

When i took proviron, i did not get gyno either but then again i am not gyno prone. For all the other anti-e's commonly recommended there is a ton of scientific evidence that they actually either block the production of estrogen or bind/block the estrogen receptors. For proviron there is NO evidence except the written opinion of some gurus that never cite sources and some anecdotal evidence. I would feel very uncomfortable advising someone to hang their gyno hat on proviron unless they had a fistfull of nolvadex ready just in case!! At least nolvadex has been clinically shown to reduce or totally eliminate gyno and it is cheaper! So for me it is simple, add a little more test and have nolvadex on hand vs the more expensive proviron that has never been clinically proven to reduce or eliminate estro or gyno.

I find so many guys trying to take so many different drugs, personally the KISS principle rules after many years of trying all of these. Test is the base of every cycle with nolvadex always handy if the need arises.

jb

Good points. I can't find any scientific data to back up my statement other than the excerpt for Big Cat's profile on Proviron and my personal experience. Big Cat recently posted the following in regards to his statements on Proviron:

"there is no proven effect of proviron on estrogen management. There is no evidence it acts as an anti-aromatase or anything. Ok, I won't deny it is of course, time has proven its efficacy. But its certainly a poor choice if estrogen blockage is your primary course of action. Proviron would be a good choice to slightly lower estrogen to within maintainable ranges, but for actually inhibiting aromatization I would think something like arimidex is more suited. "
 
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