best 2nd cycle? bridge to it?

[fitguyinny33]

finishing up my 1st cycle....sus/dbol......gonna take about 4-6 weeks before i start my 2nd

Current stats
5 10 200 18%

I want to continue building lean muscle mass.....

Q1. What is the best way to bridge to my 2nd cycle and keep test levels high (was just thinking creatine)?

Q2. I want my 2nd cycle to be simple. 2 kinds of gear over 10-12 weeks. maybe get leaner and continue building lean muscle. What is the best way to go?

Q3. PCT question....i know there is a seperate link for this....havign a hard time getting my hands on real Clomid...how is the stuff the ancillaryguys have?.......http://www.ancillaryguys.com/clomid.html...is this the real deal?

thanks

 

[The Terminator]

At 18% bf I think you should be more focused on diet than anything else...
But since you didnt ask about that I wont harp on it

Yes, ancillaryguys have good product, and the best way to keep gains is with an agressive PCT regimen imo (I like Clomid, Nolva, Tribulus, Avena Sativa, HCG, and anything else I can get my hands on )

 

[wetback]

Q1-First off the "bridging" is staying on. No other way to state it. I know it is a lower dose than a full cycle, but, reality is you are still on!!! If you are going to go off it should be time-on=time-off PERIOD. Creatine is not "bridging" it is a suppliment.

Q2-A simple second cycle could be Deca\Test. You already have done test and know the sides so adding the Deca would be a nice compliment. Maybe Deac 400mg/wk (thats 2X BW) and Test-E at about 250mg\wk (light) or 500mg\wk.

Q3-Ancillaryguys I have used. Good products but I feel overpriced. There are a couple out there that have the same quality but cheaper. I agree with Terminator on the PCT.....those are the standard compounds used......read the Docs sticky on the ideal PCT. Although you said you are finishing your current cycle which would imply to me that you planned poorly if you are just speaking about PCT now.

Just my $.02

 

[Apexx]

1. First, You need to take at least 8 weeks off and concentrate on getting your bf down.
Wetback already said it, "bridging" is staying on. No other way to state it.
Not a good idea unless your competing, which most of us aren't.
Also, creatine will help to keep your strength up.........slightly. It won't do shit for your test levels. You need to take at least 8 weeks off and concentrate on getting your bf down.

2. Test and Deca or Test and EQ. (Less bloat with the EQ)

3. If you're just now thinking about PCT, you'd better get some shit overnighted to you. Probably not a bad idea to get over to GNC tomorrow and get a ton of tribulus.
If you have trouble with a source, you may have to chalk this up as a learning experience.

 

[fitguyinny33]

thanks for all the great info guys........

K..couple of more questions and comments....................

I have about a month left on my current cycle so I have time to get PCT

"Yes, ancillaryguys have good product, and the best way to keep gains is with an agressive PCT regimen imo (I like Clomid, Nolva, Tribulus, Avena Sativa, HCG, and anything else I can get my hands on )"

Question
DO I NEED ALL OF THESE???????

And yes I undertstand what you meen by bridging.....Besides PCT I will go complety off for 8 weeks.

Question
You've all stated that I should concentrate on losing BF before I start my next cycle. How much should I lose? I will obviouly lose weight, size and strength along with BF. I always go through this "I dont want to get too thin mentality"..............I think my plan would be to do at least 40 min cardio ED, keep protein high, cut down on carbs and keep lifting heavy to maintain strength......How does this sound????...and throw in the creatine/glutamine

Question
"A simple second cycle could be Deca\Test. You already have done test and know the sides so adding the Deca would be a nice compliment. Maybe Deac 400mg/wk (thats 2X BW) and Test-E at about 250mg\wk (light) or 500mg\wk.
"

Do I take the test and deca (or EQ) at the same time (same needle)? Also what kind of test are we talking about?


thanks again guys

 

[Apexx]

Answer 1
clomid, HCG, and Nolv is plenty for most people.

Answer 2
shoot for 10%, you're probably not going to hit that in only a couple of months, but it's still a good goal. At 10% you should be able to see your abs.
When lifting, keep the intensity high, but lower the volume a bit. You're still gonna have the strength to push your muscles, but your not gonna have the test to rebuild them. Don't over-do it.

Answer 3
I would use either cyp or enanthate (pretty much the same thing). And yes, you can mix them with the deca in the same syringe.

 

[halfaclue]

Answer 1
clomid, HCG, and Nolv is plenty for most people.

Answer 2
shoot for 10%, you're probably not going to hit that in only a couple of months, but it's still a good goal. At 10% you should be able to see your abs.
When lifting, keep the intensity high, but lower the volume a bit. You're still gonna have the strength to push your muscles, but your not gonna have the test to rebuild them. Don't over-do it.

Answer 3
I would use either cyp or enanthate (pretty much the same thing). And yes, you can mix them with the deca in the same syringe.

APexx nailed it.