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Bench pr!

MJBossman

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135 x 10
185 x 8
225 x 5
275 x 4
315 x 6
315 x 5
315 x 4

Feels good to finally rep 3 plates. I'm at the end of my 4th week of taking 1-ad and I went from repping 285 x 5 to 315 x 6 in less than a month! :) Still have 2 weeks left in the cycle. Also have gained 15 pounds in bodyweight and about .75 on my arms, so I'm pretty stoked.
 
sounds good. what is your point. the weight is all water. the arm growth is minimal. I know I sound tough but train hard and heavy for strength using 80% - 90% of 1rm. If hypertrophy is what you want train with a rep range of 9 - 13.
 
very impressive difference, what other exercises have went up. wtlftr, the 15lbs does not have to be water weight, this would depend on his diet...
 
wtlftr said:
sounds good. what is your point. the weight is all water. the arm growth is minimal. I know I sound tough but train hard and heavy for strength using 80% - 90% of 1rm. If hypertrophy is what you want train with a rep range of 9 - 13.

thats kind of a harsh response, and not an accurate one either. Take a look at the pic in my avatar, that was built mostly with heavy sets of 5 reps
 
Heavy sets and a lot of juice. I am not that strong. BP at 430 with a bw of 210. I am an expert onlifting though. Hypertrophy is gained with 6 - 12 reps. period. That is how the body works.
 
uh oh

Save you some trouble, but Needsize made most people on this board look like twigs BEFORE he started with his riods.
 
not gonna get into the rep debate but i doubt all of the weight is water as 1-ad is non-aromatizing. Sure a lot of it is technically water, given that even muscle is about 80% water.
 
wtlftr said:
sounds good. what is your point. the weight is all water. the arm growth is minimal. I know I sound tough but train hard and heavy for strength using 80% - 90% of 1rm. If hypertrophy is what you want train with a rep range of 9 - 13.

:rolleyes:

I train for STRENGTH AND SIZE. 4-6 reps WORKS for both.

I've been lifting weights for a tad over 2 years, I'd say I'm doing allright!

And no, the weight is not all water. I gained 3/4 of an inch on my arms, they were 16", now they are 16.75", I'd say that's a good gain, I'm QUITE happy with it. My goal is to have 18" guns one day...so I'm getting there.

ZGzaZ said:
very impressive difference, what other exercises have went up. wtlftr, the 15lbs does not have to be water weight, this would depend on his diet...

Thanks. Close grip went up 20 pounds, lat pulldowns went up 30 pounds, squats went up 40 pounds, biceps went up 10 pounds, skull crushers went up 15 pounds.

My squat and deadlift are pretty weak right now because I injured my lower back over the summer, so I only started doing those lifts about 6 weeks ago, so even though I'm capable of lifting heavy, I'm only adding 10 pounds a week for those lifts.
 
wtlftr said:
Heavy sets and a lot of juice. I am not that strong. BP at 430 with a bw of 210. I am an expert onlifting though. Hypertrophy is gained with 6 - 12 reps. period. That is how the body works.

What are you trying to prove? Needsize was a BEAST when he was natural, he only did cycles because his growth had slowed down too much.

Expert? An expert would know that every one responds to rep ranges differently...sober up fool

collegiateLifter said:
not gonna get into the rep debate but i doubt all of the weight is water as 1-ad is non-aromatizing. Sure a lot of it is technically water, given that even muscle is about 80% water.

Funny, because I'm a bit more cut than the start of my cycle. This idiot thinks 1-ad causes just water retention? What a fool. I've read many diaries of 1-ad and people keep most of what they gain...
 
wtlftr said:
Heavy sets and a lot of juice. I am not that strong. BP at 430 with a bw of 210. I am an expert onlifting though. Hypertrophy is gained with 6 - 12 reps. period. That is how the body works.

There is no universal rep range. It is ignorant to believe there is.
 
I am sober. Reps do depend on body structure. but the body grows a certain way naturally, without S.A. or supplements. Don't bash me because of the natural truth. I can discuss both ...A.S and natural.
 
And no, the weight is not all water. I gained 3/4 of an inch on my arms, they were 16", now they are 16.75", I'd say that's a good gain, I'm QUITE happy with it. My goal is to have 18" guns one day...so I'm getting there.
keep up the hard work bro your doing really good:fro:
 
wtlftr said:
I am sober. Reps do depend on body structure. but the body grows a certain way naturally, without S.A. or supplements. Don't bash me because of the natural truth. I can discuss both ...A.S and natural.

You're an idiot for taking my "sober up" comment literally.

REMEMBER I'm going for strength and size...and I'd say I'm doing quite well! And no I don't want to be 250 pounds one day, so shut up. I know how to get big and I know how to get strong, but I want a bit of both.
 
wtlftr said:
Heavy sets and a lot of juice. I am not that strong. BP at 430 with a bw of 210. I am an expert onlifting though. Hypertrophy is gained with 6 - 12 reps. period. That is how the body works.

There are no absolutes when it comes to gaining mass, if you were the expert you claim to be you would know that. If you would like I'll post up my natural pics again to prove you wrong, and it was all built on sets of 5 reps. My old training part is ranked # 2 in canada as a powerlifter, I have never seen him go over 4 or 5 reps, he has 32" quads, 21" arms, and is natural...and his competition bench is just under 600lbs.

BTW, if you were that big of an expert on lifting like you stated, your bench would be more than 430
 
weight is not a concern. reps are. hypertrophy is what I am about. It does not matter the weight. I will not argue the point. Bench big...who cares. I am concerned with the overall look. My good friend could bench 615 at 250, but the juice was alot. juicen is one thing.. being strong an other.. all in consideration, aren't we all about getting big and strong.. some naturally. Give it a rest. We do not all want to juice but be the best we can be.
 
First congrats on the pr. :)

Now if ya'll want to debate high reps vs low reps feel free, but please lets not get into attacks because someone chooses to use aas or not to use them.

Thank you. :)
 
wtlftr said:
weight is not a concern. reps are. hypertrophy is what I am about. It does not matter the weight. I will not argue the point. Bench big...who cares. I am concerned with the overall look. My good friend could bench 615 at 250, but the juice was alot. juicen is one thing.. being strong an other.. all in consideration, aren't we all about getting big and strong.. some naturally. Give it a rest. We do not all want to juice but be the best we can be.

you were the one talking about your big bench and how you were an expert on llifting. All I did was mention that your theoryt of absolutes when it comes to rep ranges was wrong, and you come back with an insult about me using steroids. I think you'll find that kind of crappy attitude isnt wanted around here.

Its nice we were actually free of this crap for a few weeks around here
 
wtlftr said:
I know I sound tough but train hard and heavy for strength using 80% - 90% of 1rm. If hypertrophy is what you want train with a rep range of 9 - 13.

hypertrophy is what I am about.

lol! so you train for strength using 90% of your 1rm....now 30 mins later you train for hypertrophy??? make up your mind....because if what youre saying is true that you train for hypertrophy, you contradicted yourself saying that you should train in a 9-13 rep range, when YOU train with 90% of your 1rm....hmmmm....
 
great job man, juice or not!!

i could juice my head off right now and not be anywhere near three plates!

you own that bench. gonna do some 1rms anytime soon? :p
 
super_rice said:
great job man, juice or not!!

i could juice my head off right now and not be anywhere near three plates!

you own that bench. gonna do some 1rms anytime soon? :p

Haha, thanks. :D Are you saying I take juice? :o I'm just taking pro hormones. :)

I have no clue what my 1 max would be...I'm guessing around 350...but I don't want to waste a training session finding my 1 rep max, I have 2 weeks left in this PH cycle and want to maximize size gains. Not only that, but I'm not sure if my bones/connective tissue can handle maxing out cause of the rapid strength gain.

When I was repping 285 x 5, I could max at 325, so probably a solid 350. :confused:
 
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