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Believe in ghosts? Weird.

We live in a house that was a schoolhouse back in the 1800's with lots of history. There have been several reports of the schoolteachers ghost walking out the south wall and across the street. With a little research we found out that the teachers house used to be across the street-right in the part of the woods I always get a "funny" feeling when I cross thru them.

Anyhow-we took the siding off the area of the south wall where she has been seen passing thru to add a set of double doors and behind it was framing for a door. I was like oh shit!
 
I dont think i believe in ghosts BUT ive heard some very convinciing stories on ghosts.
This woman that works at a police station in Sweetwater lives in a house that she claims to be haunted. She used to tell my ex stories all the time
and she seems pretty credible to me
 
SoKlueles said:
I dont think i believe in ghosts BUT ive heard some very convinciing stories on ghosts.
This woman that works at a police station in Sweetwater lives in a house that she claims to be haunted. She used to tell my ex stories all the time
and she seems pretty credible to me
credible redneck = oxymoron
 
rsnoble-im-back said:
We live in a house that was a schoolhouse back in the 1800's with lots of history. There have been several reports of the schoolteachers ghost walking out the south wall and across the street. With a little research we found out that the teachers house used to be across the street-right in the part of the woods I always get a "funny" feeling when I cross thru them.

Anyhow-we took the siding off the area of the south wall where she has been seen passing thru to add a set of double doors and behind it was framing for a door. I was like oh shit!

Was there any plasma stains, or the like?
 
I once saw a unicorn, is that considered a ghost?

I mean unicorns are mythical creatures right?

All they are is a horse with a seat on it's head :evil:
 
rsnoble-im-back said:
We live in a house that was a schoolhouse back in the 1800's with lots of history. There have been several reports of the schoolteachers ghost walking out the south wall and across the street. With a little research we found out that the teachers house used to be across the street-right in the part of the woods I always get a "funny" feeling when I cross thru them.

Anyhow-we took the siding off the area of the south wall where she has been seen passing thru to add a set of double doors and behind it was framing for a door. I was like oh shit!
http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2005-05-09_135005689933478/tv/misc/twilight_zone_x.wav
 
nutsnack said:
I once saw a unicorn, is that considered a ghost?

I mean unicorns are mythical creatures right?

All they are is a horse with a seat on it's head :evil:
we need to share avatars:)
 
SoKlueles said:
we need to share avatars:)

this is the picture you sent me of you after your big thanksgiving dinner, have you changed since then? :qt:
 
Experienced WAY too much crazy shit to not believe that there are some incredible things that at this present time defy 'logic'.My own experiences have me convinced that something survives biological demise,and whatever it is,it is can be intelligent and interactive in certain circumstances which we can percieve.Biggest problem from a scientific standpoint is that it is primarily random and unreproducable on an 'on-call' basis.Still yet,once you start to seek out the areas that are 'hot-spots',and start to experience activity,it is hard not to find it highly fascinating and in a sense exciting(that the possibility of consciousness surviving physical expiration may exist).

Just my personal opinion though,not at all trying to force my own beliefs on anyone else.
 
rsnoble-im-back said:
We live in a house that was a schoolhouse back in the 1800's with lots of history. There have been several reports of the schoolteachers ghost walking out the south wall and across the street. With a little research we found out that the teachers house used to be across the street-right in the part of the woods I always get a "funny" feeling when I cross thru them.

Anyhow-we took the siding off the area of the south wall where she has been seen passing thru to add a set of double doors and behind it was framing for a door. I was like oh shit!

YoungNoble......if you are ever taunted by ghosts off the area of the south wall, just break out your brisket.....ghosts hate the smell of fresh brisket....





DIV
 
I'm not sure about ghosts but I certainly feel some vibes or a presence in old eery places that have a history.I suppose nearly anythings possible considering there is evidence ufo activities and other strange occurences.
 
I totally believe!! In the line of work I am in I have had to realize that EVERYONE has eternal energy that must go somewhere after you pass on.. The body is simply a vessel for your sprit. I have personally never seen one, but have heard to many stories from creditable people. Plus even though I don’t have the ability to see them I have felt strange things that I could never fully explain…
 
courtneybcca said:
I totally believe!! In the line of work I am in I have had to realize that EVERYONE has eternal energy that must go somewhere after you pass on.. The body is simply a vessel for your sprit. I have personally never seen one, but have heard to many stories from creditable people. Plus even though I don’t have the ability to see them I have felt strange things that I could never fully explain…

Yes you are correct. The truth is always near.
 
DIVISION said:
DO NOT BRING GOD IN TO THIS, Brad...... :rolleyes:




DIV

Oh yes I will. Roll your eyes all you want. I will express my opinion. Which just so happens to be fact. You will see.
 
biteme said:
Oh yes I will. Roll your eyes all you want. I will express my opinion. Which just so happens to be fact. You will see.

When revelation begins I will be on top of a mountain top waiting for the beast......

When the beast comes It will try to overtake me, but I will never go down without a fight.

If Satan comes I'll be there to take him head on....when God turns out the lights, I'll be there in the dark, thuggin' eternal through my heart.....

Hail Mary...







DIV
 
there is no such thinga as ghosts, they're demons :o

rsnoble-im-back said:
We live in a house that was a schoolhouse back in the 1800's with lots of history. There have been several reports of the schoolteachers ghost walking out the south wall and across the street. With a little research we found out that the teachers house used to be across the street-right in the part of the woods I always get a "funny" feeling when I cross thru them.

Anyhow-we took the siding off the area of the south wall where she has been seen passing thru to add a set of double doors and behind it was framing for a door. I was like oh shit!
 
the house I grow up in was old us hell.it was moved three times before it was ware it is now.something fucked up happend in evry place it was .in its first place thare was a fucked up witch famely that got hong.in its 2nd place thare was a man that keped his famely looked in the bassment and raped all his kids.In the place whare it is now thare was a farmer that whent nuts and killed his wife and berread all the annimales.found a hole hourse once in my back yard.and then my family.I have seen allout of shit in that house.I have seen people walking around the kitchen.I have herd people walking up the stares,down the hall.the toillat whould flush on its owne.light went on and off.I was in my room and something kicket my door oppen but thare was no one thare.I would get slaped in the face in my sleep.some times I would wake up and I could feel somthing thare.the fear was so intance I would try to yell for help and couldent even speak.wendose would brake and I shit you not once my sister came in my room at night and said in a mans voce iam going to kill you right before she tried to kill me with a knife.even ware I am now that house still honts me.I selldam sleep throw the night.wacking up in a cooled sweet is normal for me.I have not slept in the dark by my self in 19 years.I dont even walk down a dark sreet by myself.yes I havve seen docters and shrinks but they all say the same thing you are crazzy it never happend.well it did and iam not crazzy.my sister and brother saw it to so I know its trouw.fucked up right
 
Dunno about that. I think many earth bound souls are just stuck somehow but not all are demons IMO. Many that torment us are fallen angels though. Aliens are also fallen angels IMO.

I live in a haunted house. It is no where near what is used to be but things still happen. Never had anything attack me but some really really fucked up things have happened. Computer speakers talking to me, The usual light show they like to put on playing with the lights, pictures moving on the wall when you walk by. Cat and dog freaking out when nothing is there. CAT and dog will not even go in the basement. I could go on and on about stories but nobody would bel me. lol We even had the local newspaper come here and do a story for Halloween.

What does my dumb ass do after living in this place that was built in the 30's? I buy the oldest house in the town next to me with underground railroad in the basement! lol It’s a mansion with over 4000 SQ ft living space. 3 stories and very very old. Like 1880 or someshit. It was definitely a fixer upper and vacant for 20 years but I started taking pictures and gutting the place and ummmmm It got so bad I could not even work on it by myself anymore. Especially after seeing the pictures coming up on my digital camera. I still have them. Lots of ectoplasm. Someone would breathe on my fucking neck when I would go to the house at 7am after work a few years ago. That would freak me out more than anything. I could just tell something was right there beside me. I would even talk to it. Oh fuck I am getting goose bumps right now. Great thread but I have to sleep tonight so I am done. lol



big_bad_buff said:
there is no such thinga as ghosts, they're demons :o
 
Been there. I lived in a haunted house for ~3 years when I was a teenager.

I'm 26 years old and still have nightmares about that place.
 
BTW, Demons and ghosts are not the same thing. A ghost is a human spirit that for some reason hasn't passed on to wherever it is that they're supposed to be.

A demon is an inhuman spirit which is evil and wretched in existance.

I recommend 'The Demonologist'. It's a good book, but not to be taken lightly. It clarifies the difference between the two.

Bear
 
If I read that book I will not be able to sleep. lol Those damn things scare the hell out of me. I am going to go buy some crosses tongiht and hang them up. lol Anything I cannot blow up with my 00 buck I am afraid of.

bigbair said:
BTW, Demons and ghosts are not the same thing. A ghost is a human spirit that for some reason hasn't passed on to wherever it is that they're supposed to be.

A demon is an inhuman spirit which is evil and wretched in existance.

I recommend 'The Demonologist'. It's a good book, but not to be taken lightly. It clarifies the difference between the two.

Bear
 
I absolutely love hearing about ghost sitings and the like. When I was younger, my 3rd grade teacher would read us ghost stories during class; I would lose sleep thinking about them. I'm 22 and still get a kick out of those Scary Stories books. There are quite a few haunted cemeteries and woods around me in CT...I just have to find friends with the sack to visit.

Have any of you guys ever heard of the Warrens? They study the paranormal around here in CT. They visit local highschools and one of their stories is about a raggedy anne doll that becomes possessed and chokes the father of a family. They have the doll in a glass case. My ex-girlfriend's mother knew the family it happened to...and they are very credible. Freaks me out!
 
bigbair said:
BTW, Demons and ghosts are not the same thing. A ghost is a human spirit that for some reason hasn't passed on to wherever it is that they're supposed to be.

A demon is an inhuman spirit which is evil and wretched in existance.

I recommend 'The Demonologist'. It's a good book, but not to be taken lightly. It clarifies the difference between the two.

Bear

A religious lady that I worked with said that one of her friends was diagnosed with cancer and that she woke up in her hospital bed and 2 demons were sitting at her feet and said, "You're gonna die." Don't know if it was an hallucination, but I'm sure it wasn't a pleasant experience.
 
We seem to share some what of the same view points. I can see that you must have some biblical understandings, correct? i also beleive that UFO's/aliens are actually demons or fallen angels

I just wrote my final essay last week for my English/mythology class on the similarities throughout every culture (gods that came from the heavens, ufo’s etc) and then gave meaning to them through scriptures etc…my professor gave me an A+ and said he was amazed lol. I’ll email it to you if you’re interested.

KA-BAR said:
Dunno about that. I think many earth bound souls are just stuck somehow but not all are demons IMO. Many that torment us are fallen angels though. Aliens are also fallen angels IMO.
 
bigbair said:
Been there. I lived in a haunted house for ~3 years when I was a teenager.

I'm 26 years old and still have nightmares about that place.

Stories please, bigbair......

I want some details of these ghosts and what they've done to haunt you to this day!




DIV
 
needtogetas said:
the house I grow up in was old us hell.it was moved three times before it was ware it is now.something fucked up happend in evry place it was .in its first place thare was a fucked up witch famely that got hong.in its 2nd place thare was a man that keped his famely looked in the bassment and raped all his kids.In the place whare it is now thare was a farmer that whent nuts and killed his wife and berread all the annimales.found a hole hourse once in my back yard.and then my family.I have seen allout of shit in that house.I have seen people walking around the kitchen.I have herd people walking up the stares,down the hall.the toillat whould flush on its owne.light went on and off.I was in my room and something kicket my door oppen but thare was no one thare.I would get slaped in the face in my sleep.some times I would wake up and I could feel somthing thare.the fear was so intance I would try to yell for help and couldent even speak.wendose would brake and I shit you not once my sister came in my room at night and said in a mans voce iam going to kill you right before she tried to kill me with a knife.even ware I am now that house still honts me.I selldam sleep throw the night.wacking up in a cooled sweet is normal for me.I have not slept in the dark by my self in 19 years.I dont even walk down a dark sreet by myself.yes I havve seen docters and shrinks but they all say the same thing you are crazzy it never happend.well it did and iam not crazzy.my sister and brother saw it to so I know its trouw.fucked up right


HAHA this is a classic post.. i seriously couldn't spell every word i typed wrong even if i tried.. how old are you man and what is your highest level of education? I don't mean to flame on you it was just such BAD spelling.. i understand the ocassional typo but shit!
 
nutsnack said:
HAHA this is a classic post.. i seriously couldn't spell every word i typed wrong even if i tried.. how old are you man and what is your highest level of education? I don't mean to flame on you it was just such BAD spelling.. i understand the ocassional typo but shit!

He's an army veteran from Boston......it's combination of slurred speech and brain damage.....hope this helps.





DIV
 
needtogetgas.. what you need to look into is called lucid dreaming.. it's a therapy program that will allow people that are dreaming to realize they are dreaming, it can cure night terrors and such.. this is another reason why people have "out of body" experiences.. trying to scream for help is a fine example of a dream.. its like trying to run away but you can't.. unfortunately a shrink or doctor can not help you because dreams are uncontrolled subconscious thoughts and dream interpretation is a bunch of bullshit IMHO
 
DIVISION said:
He's an army veteran from Boston......it's combination of slurred speech and brain damage.....hope this helps.





DIV

oh well if you are actually brain damaged im sorry didnt mean to flame just was wondering an explanation.. sorry man :)
 
Yes I grew up in a Catholic school until 9th grade. I have opened up the living word many times. Especially in my low points in life.

Many parts of the bible explain perfectly what UFO's are IMO. Starting with Genesis. I think the sons of god are the evil behind the ufo's and abductions. I could talk forever on this subject.

I am very interested in your paper. Please email me. Check your pm. ;)



big_bad_buff said:
We seem to share some what of the same view points. I can see that you must have some biblical understandings, correct? i also beleive that UFO's/aliens are actually demons or fallen angels

I just wrote my final essay last week for my English/mythology class on the similarities throughout every culture (gods that came from the heavens, ufo’s etc) and then gave meaning to them through scriptures etc…my professor gave me an A+ and said he was amazed lol. I’ll email it to you if you’re interested.
 
s w o l e said:
Have any of you guys ever heard of the Warrens? They study the paranormal around here in CT. They visit local highschools and one of their stories is about a raggedy anne doll that becomes possessed and chokes the father of a family. They have the doll in a glass case. My ex-girlfriend's mother knew the family it happened to...and they are very credible. Freaks me out!


The Warrens wrote 'The Demonologist'.
 
DIVISION said:
Stories please, bigbair......

I want some details of these ghosts and what they've done to haunt you to this day!




DIV


Honestly man, this is something that I rarely talk about. The short version is that we moved into this old house in town when I was a teenager. It was me, my brothers and sisters, and my dad and new step mom. I live in a small town in KY and I went to school with a girl who's family had owned the house years previous. When she found out I moved in, she warned me about strange things that happen there. I thought she was messin' w/ me until we started experiencing it first hand.

Without getting into any great detail, what I experienced probably wasn't different than most hauntings. We had three spirits which occupied the house and were seen routinely. Things moved on their own, faucets ran on their own, things tugged on your bed sheets at night, footsteps thru your room at night, waking up with weight on your chest and someone standing in your doorway, etc... We also had a few instances where a man's voice would call out at us, the house would shake violently, and a heartbeat could be clearly hear and seemed to fill the house. We also had two doberman's in the house at the time. They would NOT go upstairs (which is where I slept) and frequently barked and growled at things we couldn't see.

My parents chose to ignore what was happening. My siblings and I talked about it openly and they didn't like that. Imagine being scared out of your mind and the person that is supposed to look out for your well-being will not even listen to what you have to say. I'm still frustrated about that.

I haven't been back to that house since and wouldn't go if you paid me. This stuff is real. I can't and won't try to explain it, but I assure you that there are forces at work that neither of us can begin to comprehend.

My current GF is probably the one I'll marry. She likes old houses. I explained my previous experience to her and we're both in agreement that we'll live in newer homes from here on out.

BB
 
bigbair said:
Without getting into any great detail, what I experienced probably wasn't different than most hauntings. We had three spirits which occupied the house and were seen routinely. Things moved on their own, faucets ran on their own, things tugged on your bed sheets at night, footsteps thru your room at night, waking up with weight on your chest and someone standing in your doorway, etc... We also had a few instances where a man's voice would call out at us, the house would shake violently, and a heartbeat could be clearly hear and seemed to fill the house. We also had two doberman's in the house at the time. They would NOT go upstairs (which is where I slept) and frequently barked and growled at things we couldn't see.

BigBair,

I'd like to dig deeper and dredge up some vivid details if I may. Some questions regarding the specters:

1.) When you felt the tugging of the bedsheets at night, did it happen randomly, mechanically or did it seem as if the ghost was playing at your fear? Did you freeze up when you realized it was a ghost tugging on your sheets or did you pull back? Did you ever hear a ghost say something to you while it was tugging at your sheets, by that I mean was it trying to communicate or just trying to get a reaction out of you?

2.) When you woke up with a weight on your chest and someone standing in the doorway, was it a replay of the same instance every time? Did you make out any detail of the "person" standing in the doorway? Facial expressions? Solid or see-through? How much weight did you feel was pushing on your chest? Enough to wake you up or something more sinister? What was your reaction upon waking up to this? Did you freeze in fear or try to situp in bed? When the ghost in the doorway realized you were cognizant of it's presence did it dissapear or remain?

3.) In the instances that the man's voice would call out to you, what would it say or would it just be a generic moan? Was it gut wrenching? Was it pained? Was it angry? Was it strange?

4.) When the heartbeat filled the house, what other things did you notice? Would the shaking of the house occur at the same time as the heartbeat? Did the family huddle up when these things occured? How long did the heartbeat and shaking episodes last in general? Were there any smells you noticed associated with the shaking or heartbeat episodes? Blood?

5.) Did you ever see any creatures which were not humanlooking? ie demons or evil looking animals? Did a ghost every actually harm you directly or were all the occurences mainly to antagonize you?

Is there anything I've missed?

Please respond when you have time.






DIV
 
Yea bear my as well let it all out. I am very curious to this shit also. You are correct many of these sounds very familiar. Sounds like the entity in your house is a few steps above mine and more powerful. What the animals see is what freaks me out. I am getting a few more for the hell of it so I know when shit is around. They seem to come and go here. My min pin Miniature Pinscher is a great watch dog but does not make me feel safe. I am getting an American bulldog next. The Grandfather of this dog used to hold the world record in the pull. lol Dogs cannot bite ghost but for some reason I will feel safer.

It really pisses me off when parents try to ignore shit. You hear about that a good bit. My kid’s gets spooked for any reason they can come sleep in my bed. We have had all 5 of us in that bed at once plus the dog and cat. lol these things will play with your mind and I do not care what anyone says in my experience they do feed off fear. Not sure why but the more you talk about them and pay attention to them the more active they get. Not sure if they are trying to communicate or what. Maybe that is the reason many parents try to ignore them. Who knows?

Let us know everything. Hell it’s been quiet in this house for a few years now but I am probably stirring it up again talking about it.

I think this shit is a lot more common than people thing but most people will not talk about it because people will make fun of them.
 
KA-BAR said:
Yea bear my as well let it all out. I am very curious to this shit also. You are correct many of these sounds very familiar. Sounds like the entity in your house is a few steps above mine and more powerful. What the animals see is what freaks me out. I am getting a few more for the hell of it so I know when shit is around. They seem to come and go here. My min pin Miniature Pinscher is a great watch dog but does not make me feel safe. I am getting an American bulldog next. The Grandfather of this dog used to hold the world record in the pull. lol Dogs cannot bite ghost but for some reason I will feel safer.

It really pisses me off when parents try to ignore shit. You hear about that a good bit. My kid’s gets spooked for any reason they can come sleep in my bed. We have had all 5 of us in that bed at once plus the dog and cat. lol these things will play with your mind and I do not care what anyone says in my experience they do feed off fear. Not sure why but the more you talk about them and pay attention to them the more active they get. Not sure if they are trying to communicate or what. Maybe that is the reason many parents try to ignore them. Who knows?

Let us know everything. Hell it’s been quiet in this house for a few years now but I am probably stirring it up again talking about it.

I think this shit is a lot more common than people thing but most people will not talk about it because people will make fun of them.

I hope bigbair responds......this could get interesting.




DIV
 
Dammit DIVISION, do you know I ain't gonna sleep worth a shit tonight?

OK, You guys wanna know more about it, I'll explain. BUT, I've got some stuff I gotta cover right now (work related). I'll be back on about 8 to 9 EST and I'll get into it. F*@K, It'll be gettin' dark about then :worried: (joke)

This ain't something I can just drop a few lines on. If you really want to know more about that hell hole, I'll get into it. But its gonna take a little time.

BTW, KA-BAR, your a good man. Don't ever forsake you childrens accounts. Pile em' up in bed with you. You don't want them to ride it out by themsleves like I did...but more on that later.

If I have a chance, I'll post a pic of the house to give a little more insight. Back later

Bear
 
bigbair said:
Dammit DIVISION, do you know I ain't gonna sleep worth a shit tonight?

OK, You guys wanna know more about it, I'll explain. BUT, I've got some stuff I gotta cover right now (work related). I'll be back on about 8 to 9 EST and I'll get into it. F*@K, It'll be gettin' dark about then :worried: (joke)

This ain't something I can just drop a few lines on. If you really want to know more about that hell hole, I'll get into it. But its gonna take a little time.

BTW, KA-BAR, your a good man. Don't ever forsake you childrens accounts. Pile em' up in bed with you. You don't want them to ride it out by themsleves like I did...but more on that later.

If I have a chance, I'll post a pic of the house to give a little more insight. Back later

Bear


Thanks bigbair.......also when you get a chance, please read my PM and reply with pertinent information.




DIV
 
I'd like for ghosts to be real.... but then most of the mythology regarding if they're real or not would be gone, along with the excitement of it all. Better left to wonder.
 
To those that were interested, sorry I didn't get to post last night, but yesterday was a long one.

Anyhow, DIVISION- this should answer some of your questions. I elaborated on some of the things I mentioned earlier. Acutally, I guess this may cause more questions than answer questions.

Anyhow, this is my account....
 
The house itself was an older Victorian style home. I didn’t and still don’t know anything about the history of the property, only that those who lived in it before us reported similar things. I actually had a highschool English teacher pull me aside after I wrote a paper about it and said that she believed me because she had students who lived there in the past write similar papers. I’m not writing this to entertain you, just reporting what I have personally experienced. Take what you want from it, but I have absolutely NO doubt that what went on there was real and many of the accounts you see on TV and hear about are possible, if not true.

As for specific experiences, I mentioned the kind of things that went on. We were in the house for several months before anything ever happened. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think whatever was there was trying to harm any of us. BUT, it had no reservations with interaction.

We routinely saw three separate, distinguishable ‘figures’ which occupied the house. There was a man who looked in his 20's, a girl who was slightly younger, and an elderly lady. These figures appeared the same each time we saw them. That is to say, we got enough of a look to where you could clearly see what each was wearing. Usually they appeared as sort of a glimpse. You could say that one person may have been mistaken, but when two or three of us catch a glimpse at the same thing at the same time, its safe to say its really there. Sometimes their presence was more prolonged. You could almost make eye contact and then they would seem to dissipate or move out of your line of vision. One time in particular kind of freaked me out when I was seated in a chair talking to my sister. She was half ass listing to me and doing something else when she turned to me and froze. Her eyes were huge and face white. When I asked her what her problem was she said that the old lady (ghost) was standing right behind me with her hand on the back of my chair. To me, that ain’t cool.

As for physical and verbal contact, I distinctly remember laying in my bed one night trying to fall asleep. I was on my back staring at the ceiling when the comforter started being pulled tight across me. It’s as if someone was on either side, pulling the sheet downward, tight across the bed. This wasn’t a little tug. This was lots of pressure, to the point where I couldn’t set up or roll over. I squirmed for a second trying to convince myself that it was something rational, but the longer I lay the tighter it got. I finally called out to my brother and it released. It didn’t come back later or on another night, but there was no explanation for what could’ve caused that.

Other things are equally vivid. Stuff like laying in bed and hearing the mattress creak like someone just got in bed beside you and actually seeing the indentation. I do remember waking up with a strange pressure on my chest. It was kinda like when you try and force two magnets together. I felt a hard push on my chest and could actually see my shirt move and respond to where the pressure was felt. It wasn’t enough to hurt me physically, but enough to wake me and hold me down against the bed for probably a minute +/-.

The verbal experiences were minimal. My sister was in a room where the stairway opened to (remember the dogs wouldn’t go up there) when someone called to her from upstairs “Hey...Hey You” . She said it was a man’s voice and it really kinda bothered her. Can’t say as though I blame her. I didn’t hear it, but she was scared shitless and given everything else that went on, I didn’t have reason to doubt. There were other audible occurrences. I do clearly remember one time sitting on the couch in the living room when it sounded as though a jet plane was approaching. You know that low rumble that starts at a distance and grows louder. Well, it got so loud that I couldn’t hear the TV. The walls were shaking and I thought someone was landing in the damned yard. I jumped up and ran outside and everything was perfectly calm. No rumble, no plane, no anything. The same is true of the heartbeat. It happened when my sisters and I were in the house. It started slow and very vague. Then gradually reached a volume which was almost deafening. We rushed outside and all was quite. We also stayed outside for a good 2 hours before my parents came home and went in with us.

This all was kinda standard for living in that house. My brother tells me stories (both then and now) of his bath water turning to blood and the faucets turning on by themselves. I do remember him running to find me once (bare ass naked) after claiming these things had just happened. The bath water looked normal when I got there, but the faucets were still running. Like I said, gimme a reason to doubt him (not to mention that’s not usually something a 9 year old would make up).

Other than this stuff, it was the usual; hearing doors slam, windows open, faucets turning themselves on, foot steps outside your room, footsteps INSIDE you room, and things being found in places where you know you didn’t leave them (like my shoes in the bathtub). There were times when you would wake up at night hearing whispers in your bedroom. I never could quite make out what was being said, but it was clearly a person's voice and sounded as if two or three people were conversing in a very low voice. This would go on and on before it would stop.

I can’t sit hear and try and convince everyone that reads this that these things are real. What I can do is give you my personal account and let you make your own decisions. In hindsight, I don’t think those spirits wanted to hurt any of us. In fact, I’m not sure what the hell they wanted. But, they were there and there was interaction. I have three other siblings which all experienced the same things. My parents still refuse to talk about it. Based on my experiences, I am a firm believer that there are forces at work that neither you nor I can comprehend.

And DIVISION, as for your Q’s, there wasn’t any of the plasm stuff. At least I didn’t see any. But, I didn’t know what the hell that stuff was then so maybe I am wrong. I didn't recall any foul smells, only the constant feeling that you were NOT alone. No matter where you were in that house, if felt as though someone was watching you.

I was glad to move from that house. While I haven’t talked to anyone that lived there since, I have considered checking the local library for the history of the property. Maybe I could find something there that would provide insight. Then again, this is a chapter of my life I almost rather keep closed.

Bigbair
 
needtogetas said:
the house I grow up in was old us hell.it was moved three times before it was ware it is now.something fucked up happend in evry place it was .in its first place thare was a fucked up witch famely that got hong.in its 2nd place thare was a man that keped his famely looked in the bassment and raped all his kids.In the place whare it is now thare was a farmer that whent nuts and killed his wife and berread all the annimales.found a hole hourse once in my back yard.and then my family.I have seen allout of shit in that house.I have seen people walking around the kitchen.I have herd people walking up the stares,down the hall.the toillat whould flush on its owne.light went on and off.I was in my room and something kicket my door oppen but thare was no one thare.I would get slaped in the face in my sleep.some times I would wake up and I could feel somthing thare.the fear was so intance I would try to yell for help and couldent even speak.wendose would brake and I shit you not once my sister came in my room at night and said in a mans voce iam going to kill you right before she tried to kill me with a knife.even ware I am now that house still honts me.I selldam sleep throw the night.wacking up in a cooled sweet is normal for me.I have not slept in the dark by my self in 19 years.I dont even walk down a dark sreet by myself.yes I havve seen docters and shrinks but they all say the same thing you are crazzy it never happend.well it did and iam not crazzy.my sister and brother saw it to so I know its trouw.fucked up right

umm.... so you ever considered moving?
 
bigbair said:
I was glad to move from that house. While I haven’t talked to anyone that lived there since, I have considered checking the local library for the history of the property. Maybe I could find something there that would provide insight. Then again, this is a chapter of my life I almost rather keep closed.

Thanks for typing that out bigbair........Interesting stuff.

I think the blood in the bathtub that your brother experienced was probably the scariest thing, like something out of "The Shining".

More questions:

1.) When on occasion you saw glimpses of these ghosts did you get the impression they were actual cognizant like people or just projected images like a movie? Did you get the feeling that they controlled when they appeared before you or that it was just a random occurence controlled by something else?

2.) When most of the experiences took place, where were the dogs? Were they in the same room with you or outside? Were they always scared and skittish due to the spirits being in the house? For the most part, did the dogs become fearful of the spirits or where they barking aggressively at the spirits? Are you 100% sure that the dogs never went upstairs during your time in that house?

3.) Of the three ghosts which occupied the house, did any one of the three scare you moreso than the others? Did they always have the same facial expressions or did they change with each occurence? When the old lady was perched behind you with her hand on the back of your seat, did your sister notice any facial expressions? Any look in her eyes? Did you have the notion to reach back and touch the old lady to see for yourself? Did you ever try and speak to these ghosts and give them the attention they were looking for?

4.) Did you ever see any of these spirits or experience anything unusual outside in the yard? Were there spots in the yard that the dogs would be scared to trespass? How often did you get the sense that the dogs were affected by the presence of the spirits?

5.) It seems you harbor some resentment towards your parents for their nonaffirmation of your experiences in the house. Surely they must have had their own ghastly ghostly encounters. Have you had a chance to speak openly about this with them to get some corroboration? How deeply have these wounds affected you and your other siblings? Finally, do you see these experiences as a trauma, something that you will never be free from? Will this be something that haunts you 'till your dying day?



Thanks, bigbair.......

I appreciate the time.






DIV
 
Division, I think it would be best if I get you an address and YOU moved into the house for a while :D No, seriously, I understand your curiosity and I don't mind to pass on what little I know. The blood in the bathtub was definitely over the top. I never had anything like that happen to me, but my brother swears by it.

As for you Q's:

1) The vision of the ghost was sometimes more concrete than others. It didn't appear like a projection and there were a few times that it was so solid that it looked as though someone was in the house with you (by which I mean a 'living' someone). Other times it was much more transparent like what you would see on TV. I never noticed any pattern to their appearance. However, there did seem to be certain rooms where you were more likely to see one or all of them than others. And, conversely, there were rooms where nothing happened (but not many).

2) The dogs were kept both inside and outside, depending on weather. Inside, they didn't walk around in fear or behave differently than normal. BUT, they would bark and become agressive towards things we couldn't see. Remember how they wouldn't go upstairs? Well, onetime I was walking down the stairs and one of the dogs was at the bottom. It was squared off at the bottom of the stairs, growling up at me, with its teeth shown. Really bothered by something. I moved back from the staircase and the dog still focused on one area and wasn't concerned with me. That kind of stuff. And NO, to my knowledge the dogs never came upstairs. They didn't seem to care for that end of the house.

3) If one of the spirits frightened me more, it was the old lady. Just because of appearance. She was little and old. I mean really, this is the kinda shit you see on the Exorcist. Their didn't seem to be any facial expressions. It was almost like a zombie (for lack of a better term). They just moved through the house with no facial expression, no blinking, no sign of emotion at all. When the lady was on the back of my chair, I did not see her. When my sister froze, I got up to ask her what was up and that's when she told me. When I had turned around the lady was gone.

4) To my knowledge, all our (me and my siblings) experiences occurred within the house. The dogs never acted out of the ordinary in the yard. HOWEVER, the girl who's family lived in the house before me told me a story (after my encounter) of her and her father camping out in the yard. In the middle of the night they had the same experience with hearing the heartbeat, except outside and not inside. I had not talked to her about my experience with hearing the heartbeat prior to her telling me this.

5) There was a time when I was angry with my parents over this. I'm not anymore, but I am still confused why you would ignore such a thing and not listen to what your children have to say. Ignoring this will not cure it. I don't harbour any resentment. Mostly because it isn't healthy. My brother and I will still talk about it occasionally. We recount the different experiences, but for the most part it isn't discussed. My parents do not acknowlege that anything happened. It would be foolish to think they didn't have their own encounters.

The nightmares I have about this stuff are specifically about THAT house and not ghosts in general. Many times these dreams are memories resurfacing and are vivid in detail. I really can't say if these dreams will ever subside, but my memories of what happened will not be forgotten.

We never really tried to communicate with the spirits. Probably because we were scared shitless. We did grow accustomed to having them in the house and even gave each a name. Regardless of how used to having them around you become, it doesn't ease your fears when your woken up with whispers, physical contact, or someone watching you from your doorway.


Big Bair
 
Specifically, my brother's account (we actually discussed this about two months ago) was while sitting in the bathtub (we was ~9 yrs old) he had leaned back and dunked his head to wash his hair. He was short and the tub was one of the old garden tubs which was big and deep. When he raised up after rinsing his hair, all the water in the tub was blood red. He freaked out and ran through the house naked to find me. I went to the tub with him and when we got there the water seemed normal, though the faucets were running.

Like I've said, given the other circumstances, gimme a reason to doubt him.

BB
 
bigbair said:
Specifically, my brother's account (we actually discussed this about two months ago) was while sitting in the bathtub (we was ~9 yrs old) he had leaned back and dunked his head to wash his hair. He was short and the tub was one of the old garden tubs which was big and deep. When he raised up after rinsing his hair, all the water in the tub was blood red. He freaked out and ran through the house naked to find me. I went to the tub with him and when we got there the water seemed normal, though the faucets were running.

Like I've said, given the other circumstances, gimme a reason to doubt him.

I just think it's too bad you guys didn't see any demons or creatures.....or at least some plasma like in Amityville Horror.....

That would have been off the chain......



DIV
 
DIVISION said:
I just think it's too bad you guys didn't see any demons or creatures.....or at least some plasma like in Amityville Horror.....

That would have been off the chain......



DIV


Yeah, I really regret not seeing any demons :rolleyes:

What I experienced was real enough for me. I can't imagine what some of these people have gone through. I'm THANKFUL that I was dealing with human spirits and not demons.

If you really want to look into this, you should read 'The Demonologist'. It's not to be taken lightly and will without a doubt put you futher into this stuff than you care to be.

BB
 
bigbair said:
Yeah, I really regret not seeing any demons :rolleyes:

What I experienced was real enough for me. I can't imagine what some of these people have gone through. I'm THANKFUL that I was dealing with human spirits and not demons.

If you really want to look into this, you should read 'The Demonologist'. It's not to be taken lightly and will without a doubt put you futher into this stuff than you care to be.

So basically you are telling me if you were haunted by demons you'd be worse off than you are now?

I'm a fatalist, the way I see it, if demons want to get you they will get you. The same with ghosts and other creatures.....

I'm not scared of it, I welcome it.

If they want me, I'm here.







DIV
 
post pictures when you get the chance bro! My little nephew's toys start up by themselves at night for some reason. There's nothing scarier then elmo's voice singing for no reason at all. how strange is that. my house isn't haunted (i don't think anyways) sometimes when i can't sleep and i'm stairing at the ceiling i can hear (from my sisters/nephew's room) his sleep and snore ernie snoring away, like someone is telling me to go the hell to sleep. I always feel like someone is watching me, i hate being here alone
 
mustang_00 said:
post pictures when you get the chance bro! My little nephew's toys start up by themselves at night for some reason. There's nothing scarier then elmo's voice singing for no reason at all. how strange is that. my house isn't haunted (i don't think anyways) sometimes when i can't sleep and i'm stairing at the ceiling i can hear (from my sisters/nephew's room) his sleep and snore ernie snoring away, like someone is telling me to go the hell to sleep. I always feel like someone is watching me, i hate being here alone

RU serious?

The toys start up on their own?

I want details...




DIV
 
Holy shit! Holy shit! Holy shit! and lol @ the Q&A with Div and Bear. More Q&A than a Lestat interview.


Some old guy hung himself in our basement before I bought the house. I look for him and listen for stuff but apparently I'm ignored by ghosts as well as regular people.

This thread is scary. Honestly, I'd leave a house if it were doing all that stuff. I don't even like to hear my fridge running, let alone a ghost trying to spit out rhymes.
 
Oh, I forgot, it would be interesting to see who lived in Bear's old house. If they were those people he saw, a young man, old woman, girl. See what their story is and get some answers.

Bear, you've been through a lot bro. Stay strong. Thanks for sharing.
 
WTF Div? Poor guy went through enough let alone getting visits from demons. I watched some scary shit late last night. Unexplained mysteries. Some vortex or something was in a house letting all. I totally bel in this because I have seen it and then some. The talking toys were popular in my house as well. WE would just be sitting there and the fuckers would start talking. We just thought they where broken. Late at night when we where upstairs sleeping we would hear all the electronic toys working. We just figured it was the cat playing with them. Well we pretty much knew but we acted like it was the cat. This stuff is a lot more common than most think but everyone is afraid to talk about it.

Gone lifting I said what you said once also. Unless you are put into the situation you do not know what you will do. My luck the house I move into after this one would be worse. I actually got pissed off when they where scaring the kids one night and called it out. lol it was interesting. I was already half shot in the ass and was challenging it to a fight. lol Yes I am not right in the head.
 
DIVISION said:
RU serious?

The toys start up on their own?

I want details...




DIV

just random battery operated toys. my grandma died last june and when i go visit my grandpa the same thing will happen with my cousins toys! I think i'm cursed
 
Not cursed. Just like I said. It’s pretty common. Once peeps start talking about it open without flames people will tell you. Your grandma is probably just trying to validate she is around and ok.
 
SO many of you are willing to believe in ghosts and spirits, but yet not God?
 
DIVISION said:
So basically you are telling me if you were haunted by demons you'd be worse off than you are now?

I'm a fatalist, the way I see it, if demons want to get you they will get you. The same with ghosts and other creatures.....

I'm not scared of it, I welcome it.

If they want me, I'm here.

I use to think like that. Que sera, sera. And there's nothing I can do to change it. But, I was wrong.







DIV
I use to think like that. Que sera, sera. And there's nothing I can do to change it. But, I was wrong.
 
Ah this stuff is interesting. Good read for sure... To bad i don't have any to tell myself.

Div how come you are so interested in this? Did you happen to have some encounters yourself?
 
Mammoth2500 said:
Ah this stuff is interesting. Good read for sure... To bad i don't have any to tell myself.

Div how come you are so interested in this? Did you happen to have some encounters yourself?

He's looking for answers. He doesn't believe in God but just in case he's wrong, he wants some evidence.
 
gonelifting said:
Holy shit! Holy shit! Holy shit! and lol @ the Q&A with Div and Bear. More Q&A than a Lestat interview.

I bring more to the table than a generic Lestat Q&A....I bring the questions people actually want answers to.

KA-BAR said:
WTF Div? Poor guy went through enough let alone getting visits from demons.

Can't hurt to ask, Kabara....I was hoping for something akin to the Amityville Horror. Blood, ooze, pigs w/ pink eyes, GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!......the whole 9.

mustang_00 said:
just random battery operated toys. my grandma died last june and when i go visit my grandpa the same thing will happen with my cousins toys! I think i'm cursed

That's minor, too bad you didn't confront the toys and ask them why they were disturbing your sleep.

Mammoth2500 said:
Ah this stuff is interesting. Good read for sure... To bad i don't have any to tell myself.

Div how come you are so interested in this? Did you happen to have some encounters yourself?

I've never had any paranormal experiences. I can only listen to other people's accounts and wish it was me being pestered by ghosts, poltergeists and demons. I wish I could be the one doused in blood in the bathtub. I want to be the one being suffocated in my sleep by unseen hands and silent whispers. I want to be the one hearing the deafening heartbeats throughout the house. I want to have the ghosts come up behind me and touch me on the shoulder. I WANT IT ALL! ;)

biteme said:
He's looking for answers. He doesn't believe in God but just in case he's wrong, he wants some evidence.

I'm looking for demons! If God existed he wouldn't have let the twin towers fall in a heap of flesh and fire. He wouldn't have let our soldiers get struck down by mortar shells and IED's. God wouldn't allow the rape of women and innocent children.

C'est La Vie.....Have a drink of me if you're smart, Brad.

I'm waiting for revelation with arms open and soul abiding.....

I'm waiting for the beast. :evil:






DIV
 
Im not fucking sleeping tonight.



I have had one of these in the last year. 6 months ago my girlfriend was sleeping over at my house. We were laying in bed, and it was pitch black. I started to hear a conversation (inaudible), and im like wtf. We were alone, or supposed to be. So i got out the SIG, and went around the house, outside, and back in. Nothing. Everything was dead quite. wen I cam back my girl was like "what the hell was that about?" I told her I was hearing voices. She thought I was nuts. So i lay back in bed, and sit there listening. About 10 minutes later the voices start up again, this time I know they arent from a live person. I lay trying to distinguish what they are saying, but am unable. My girlfriend then rolls over towards me and wispers, " you know those voices you heard?" "yeah." "Well, I am hearing them too."
 
Guvna said:
Im not fucking sleeping tonight.



I have had one of these in the last year. 6 months ago my girlfriend was sleeping over at my house. We were laying in bed, and it was pitch black. I started to hear a conversation (inaudible), and im like wtf. We were alone, or supposed to be. So i got out the SIG, and went around the house, outside, and back in. Nothing. Everything was dead quite. wen I cam back my girl was like "what the hell was that about?" I told her I was hearing voices. She thought I was nuts. So i lay back in bed, and sit there listening. About 10 minutes later the voices start up again, this time I know they arent from a live person. I lay trying to distinguish what they are saying, but am unable. My girlfriend then rolls over towards me and wispers, " you know those voices you heard?" "yeah." "Well, I am hearing them too."

so the voices weren't from a live person? Did they sounds like they were coming from TV, radio? Where did they sound like they were coming from?

I wish I could have these type of experiences so I could call out the ghosts and demand they face me in the open. I live for this.





DIV
 
DIVISION said:
so the voices weren't from a live person? Did they sounds like they were coming from TV, radio? Where did they sound like they were coming from?

I wish I could have these type of experiences so I could call out the ghosts and demand they face me in the open. I live for this.





DIV



If I had to compare it to something I would comare it to a tv being left on. However, the sound was coming from the ceiling in the opposite part of the room (or so it seemed to me). I got up and investigated 3 times, but each time I even moved to get out of bed, the voices stopped.
 
DIVISION said:
so the voices weren't from a live person? Did they sounds like they were coming from TV, radio? Where did they sound like they were coming from?

I wish I could have these type of experiences so I could call out the ghosts and demand they face me in the open. I live for this.





DIV


I am not sure exactly what you mean, but when i said "werent coming form a live person", I meant that, after I investigated, I knew the sounds that I was hearing did not have a originating spot (person/people/tv/radio/etc).
 
Guvna said:
If I had to compare it to something I would comare it to a tv being left on. However, the sound was coming from the ceiling in the opposite part of the room (or so it seemed to me). I got up and investigated 3 times, but each time I even moved to get out of bed, the voices stopped.

You should have screamed at the voices and dared them to come closer and show themselves. You should have challenged the ghosts, they were interrupting your sleep.




DIV
 
DIVISION said:
He ain't deceived shit, TripleB....

I'm waiting for revelation to come so I can battle with Satan.
DIV


Why would the “beast” try to battle you? You must likely already walk his path daily, he smiles as he passes you and whispers deceptions into your ears, and you nourish from his mouth like a newborn from its mother’s breast.

If you cannot see the spiritual battle that is happening daily before you, what happens in the end times? A pure relationship with god and his word is all you need. Knowledge and the truth is in the word. the battle that matters is now, withen you
 
DIVISION said:
so the voices weren't from a live person? Did they sounds like they were coming from TV, radio? Where did they sound like they were coming from?

I wish I could have these type of experiences so I could call out the ghosts and demand they face me in the open. I live for this.





DIV


Then smoke some salvia if you arent chicken, you'll being sucking spirit salvia's dick in ten minutes
 
ceasar989 said:
lol

give the boy some dmt and destroy him


Yeah, I was thinking recommending that but I think with his fragile ego his head would explode LOL, Id pay money to see him try either of those substances, people like that get their ass kicked by strong psychedelics, that shit is hundreds of times stronger than lsd, its fun to watch a meltdown of arrogance
 
Eringobraugh said:
Yeah, I was thinking recommending that but I think with his fragile ego his head would explode LOL, Id pay money to see him try either of those substances, people like that get their ass kicked by strong psychedelics, that shit is hundreds of times stronger than lsd, its fun to watch a meltdown of arrogance

see if he's ego stands a chance...thats something id like to see.

ill make the ayahausca.
 
ceasar989 said:
see if he's ego stands a chance...thats something id like to see.

ill make the ayahausca.


People who drink the huasca like that would be eaten to the bone by pirhana and spend the whole time victimized by vengeful gods as they pay for their arrogance in the hell realms. I doubt he'd be man enough to deal with that. Im going to brew some huasca pretty soon myself, prolly within two months. Just have to order the root bark.
 
big_bad_buff said:
You must likely already walk his path daily, he smiles as he passes you and whispers deceptions into your ears, and you nourish from his mouth like a newborn from its mother’s breast.

you know what they say.. keep your friends close and your enemies closer. :cyclops:
 
Mammoth2500 said:
you know what they say.. keep your friends close and your enemies closer. :cyclops:

That's if you fear your enemies.....

If you don't there's no point......




DIV
 
DIVISION said:
That's if you fear your enemies.....

If you don't there's no point......




DIV

Even without the fear you best to stay close. Your better to know than not know, better to over estimate rather than under estimate.
Your enemy is out in the jungle and they are the only ones that know what their plan is.
Be smart and stay one step ahead.
Know when to fold them, know when to walk away and know when to run.

gay song but makes sense
 
Div, you seem like a crazy motherfucker. I would never challenge something I thought was a ghost. It's funny no one ever has one of those stories to tell - where they actually had interaction. I don't "believe" in ghosts but I still get scared of strange occurances I can't immediately explain. It's human nature.
 
starfish said:
Did my ghost scare you...lol ;)

Read my PM and respond please, honey.

I'd prefer to see your navel, and no it wouldn't scare me.


Mammoth2500 said:
Even without the fear you best to stay close. Your better to know than not know, better to over estimate rather than under estimate.
Your enemy is out in the jungle and they are the only ones that know what their plan is.
Be smart and stay one step ahead.
Know when to fold them, know when to walk away and know when to run.

I understand why you say what you say furry Mammoth, but I don't play that way. I do what I do and I could care less what other people do, enemies or not, friend or foe. I am unaffected by others, I am my own entity. If people conspire to bring me down, so be it, but I'm a pretty tenacious person and noone has ever brought me down. My iron will is stronger than the hand of God.

deltreefitness said:
Div, you seem like a crazy motherfucker. I would never challenge something I thought was a ghost. It's funny no one ever has one of those stories to tell - where they actually had interaction. I don't "believe" in ghosts but I still get scared of strange occurances I can't immediately explain. It's human nature.

I don't question human nature, furry Deltree. I simply don't "fear" ghosts or any of the supernatural. I encourage and embrace all things dark and unnatural, I wish I could experience some of the sick and twisted shit that other people see on a routine basis. I want the blood in the bathtub, the whispers in the empty pitchblack house, the moans of tortured souls. I want it all, and I want to interact with it and understand why it does what it does.

I am the type to walk up to a ghost and dare it to come my way.




DIV
 
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