being GAY.

[Warik]

That is a very limited slice of gay life on which to make generalizations about the entire community.

Apparently I dont have enough information because I "have no real-world experience," yet somehow he does not have enough information either because he only has 15 years of real-world experience? How many do you have? 16?

Give me a break. You just don't want to be wrong. An admirable quality, but only when the desire is warranted.

-Warik

 

[alexiarenee]

I don't want to sound like a rude asshole here... but killing oneself? Isn't that a bit overboard? Does it really SOLVE anything? Are people truly THAT weak? I'm sorry if I am offending anyone, I truly am... It's just, I have a hard time finding sympathy in my heart for those who take the easy way out of life... rather than taking these challenges head on...



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This is true...but if something happened to my daughter- I honestly think I would kill myself...........

 

[p0ink]

Ok, if any of you have ever read some of my posts, you might realize I am quite conservative. However, I really could care less what someone's sexuality is. If they want to be gay, cool, whatever. I really could care less. However, if they let their sexuality define who they are as a person, then that is where I get quite annoyed. I don't see the necessity of parading what you like to do in the bedroom and trying to force it down other people's throats. I know several gay people who do not do this at all, and I also know some who do, so I really think it varies with the individual. I have never seen a post where musclebrains or analassplorer were like, "yo, you really gotta be gay man. it's the fuckin shit, it's way better than being straight." People just need to live their fuckin lives and not get so fucking hung up about what someone does in the privacy of their own home. I can understand if someone is hitting on you constantly, then it is acceptable to make their brains come out of their nose. I like militant gays as much as i like militant blacks or inred, racist whites. "Gay Rights...White Power...Kill Whitey..." FUCK YOU.

 

[wyst]

I know how to present my opinions. Though I've said before that school is not as important as people think, I've written countless excellent persuasive papers for advanced composition classes. Like they always say in writing class, "you must consider the audience." If I were writing a speech for the public on the issue of gays and suicide, I would have to be "empathic" or hire someone to be "empathic" for me because I know about the ignorance and quick-to-label behavior that exists in the general public. Say something mean about somebody, even if it's true, and you're automatically labeled a bigot and a "fucking idiot." Woohoo. Given the fact that my conversations with and against Elite members in the past have proven to be somewhat intelligent, I didn't think I had to sugar-coat everything. Then again, I've never really seen you post before, so I didn't anticipate that you would participate and have your feelings hurt.
-Warik

That's somewhat disingenous, given that we had a big back and forth only a day or two ago (where you chose not to advance much in the way of a justifiction for your points nor to directly answer my points, despite the fact that I was posting pretty calmly at that point). Also, it ignores that fact that I posted on *this* thread long before you did. Did you actually read the whole thread before posting to it?

At any rate, I do feel I owe you an apology for calling you a fucking idiot last night. I'm coming down with something and even snapped at my boss this morning over just about nothing. That has nothing to do with you, and I'm sorry, and I hope you'll forgive me for that. I'm going home sick in a bit.

I do, however stand by the substance of what I said last night, and I submit that you did, in a sense, fail to consider your audience adequately. I think a thread where people are talking about friends that died deserves a bit more empathy than you have shown. You can mock us and say that we are oversensitive and by saying you didn't realize you needed to sugar coat your words, but jesus christ, this is people talking about friends who died. I have had friends commit suicide myself, and it's not something that stops feeling bad quickly.

I also think that, as a moderator, you have a responsibility to be a bit more careful than the average poster. I admit, you didn't descend to the name calling I did, but I do think you stirred things up in an extremely negative way, whether intentionally or not. I think this happens quite frequently with threads that you post on. Could it not be the case that maybe you need to reconsider your audience and the way you approach it?

Wyst

 

[musclebrains]

Nope. I don't care if I'm stereotyped. If the stereotype is true, it's true. If it's false, it's false and it does not have an effect on me.

Warik, that is so dumb it is really funny. It should be enshrined in a social psycholgogy text book.

Me stereotype true. You stereotype false.

That's the problem with stereotyping, you nitwit.

 

[musclebrains]

Apparently I dont have enough information because I "have no real-world experience," yet somehow he does not have enough information either because he only has 15 years of real-world experience? How many do you have? 16?

Give me a break. You just don't want to be wrong. An admirable quality, but only when the desire is warranted.

-Warik

LOL...There is no way you can draw a conclusion about all gay people on the basis of people who hang out in gay clubs. That is as self evident as your nearest text book on statistical sampling. Can you imagine if social research were conducted that way? We want to know about the sexual behavior of heterosexuals, so we're going to spend 15 years at Hooters! Hey, guess what, we've learned all straight people drink too much beer and suffer a breast fetish!

If I encountered a majority of people your age on Elite with your level of willful ignorance, even after 15 years, I think I'd be quite mistaken to say that this could be generalized outside the set of people on Elite.

Hello? Is this complicated?

 

[HumorMe]

Hey Warik

I'm with you buddy on this one. People need thicker skin if they are going to post here. When I first started posting here, I let things bother me to the point of making remarks as wyst has by calling them idiots, shit for brains, fucking dickhead, blah, blah, blah.(wyst, before you fly off at me...save it because I've heard it before....I'm just making reference to what has already been pointed out.) Wyst made a reference that I must be gay cause I posted on this thread saying "this thread was gay." Cheap shot but nonetheless funny. Warik, you are doing a fine job here and don't let anybody tell you any different.

As far as RyanH's friend committing suicide.....it's very sad that someone would resort to that. What a waste. Suicide is not the answer but some people can't handle the truth.

 

[Jimsbbc]

Whats wrong with a breast fetish?

 

[HumorMe]

so I really think it varies with the individual. I have never seen a post where musclebrains or analassplorer were like, "yo, you really gotta be gay man. it's the fuckin shit, it's way better than being straight." People just need to live their fuckin lives and not get so fucking hung up about what someone does in the privacy of their own home. I can understand if someone is hitting on you constantly, then it is acceptable to make their brains come out of their nose. I like militant gays as much as i like militant blacks or inred, racist whites. "Gay Rights...White Power...Kill Whitey..." FUCK YOU.

Good point pOink. I like musclebrains and analassplorer. They are good people who are comfortable with their sexuality.
No problem here with either them. Good guys!

 

[Warik]

Hey, guess what, we've learned all straight people drink too much beer and suffer a breast fetish!

Most straight people do tend to be somewhat fond of breasts. Imagine that - your statistical sampling is true!

You mentioned that that's "the problem with stereotyping." No, the problem with stereotyping is not that they exist - the problem with stereotyping is that people foolishless let negative stereotypes affect them. You do realize, of course, that no one can offend you without your permission, right?

If I called you a big dumb doofus right now, I'm certain it wouldn't phase you at all. Why? Because it's untrue. So why does someone thinking: "oh, he prances around like a fairy... there is a strong chance that he is a homosexual" bother you?

-Warik