Been in trouble with customs before and first time mail order

[Elite_Fry]

When i was 16 i got in trouble with customs for importing something (legal in US, illegal in AUS), i was immature and ignorant at the time so didnt know what i was doing. Anyway customs caught me i needed to go to a type of customs court. So i got off with a warning. Next time however they told me i would be in a lot of shit.

I want to go on my first cycle (mail order)... but am worried because of my previous problem with customs. Do you think i need to be more cautious because of this?

 

[sweed]

depending on the size of packages, # of packages,kind of packages they come in. ask how he packages them. only a small percentage gets taken by customs

 

[cornfish]

See if it's possible to locate a re-mailer that would be domestic to you. I'm not sure if you would be on any sort of watch list because of the previous incident, but it never hurts to take the extra precautions

 

[Güclü_oglan]

well the australian customs are TIGHT as hell, there's a 10% chance you'll get caught. You will get away with it with no doubt as long as you don't keep gear at home

 

[fun28hi]

in the us age 18 and under records are sealed and no one has access to them i think i saw that on a tlc show

 

[Elite_Fry]

thaNX

 

[Lab_Wizard]

See if it's possible to locate a re-mailer that would be domestic to you. I'm not sure if you would be on any sort of watch list because of the previous incident, but it never hurts to take the extra precautions

Damn right he is on a "watch list." Not only his name but the address and any address with his name on it in the future. I say it all the time ...... do whatever it takes to remain ANONYMOUS!!! Its really not that hard.

Wonder how many people log into this forum with their real IP? Bad bad bad!! Always use a proxy , especially if you post alot.

I am working on several tutorials to help you guys stay safe. However I will not hold anyones hand, you must do a little legwork.

 

[nutsnack]

Damn right he is on a "watch list." Not only his name but the address and any address with his name on it in the future. I say it all the time ...... do whatever it takes to remain ANONYMOUS!!! Its really not that hard.

Wonder how many people log into this forum with their real IP? Bad bad bad!! Always use a proxy , especially if you post alot.

I am working on several tutorials to help you guys stay safe. However I will not hold anyones hand, you must do a little legwork.

i post on my real ip but i know its not illegal to post in a forum saying i use steroids because unless they find them in my house, which they arent there, they cant do shit to me!!

 

[wellbilt]

i post on my real ip but i know its not illegal to post in a forum saying i use steroids because unless they find them in my house, which they arent there, they cant do shit to me!!

well put

 

[Sigmund Roid]

Please read the last sentence! A fine of 220.000 is a bit much for 12 vials

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Loaded Da Vinci Code


March 29, 2005
www.smh.com.au
AAP


Australian customs officers found more than an interesting read when they intercepted a copy of the best-selling novel, The Da Vinci Code, sent from overseas.


The book, mailed from London to Sydney, contained twelve vials of performance enhancing anabolic steroids, Australian Customs Services spokesman Simon Latimer said today. The paperback book had four sections cut out from the pages in which the vials were hidden, he said.


Customs officers detected the illegal substance on February 23 and executed a search warrant on a Surry Hills residence. Four more vials of anabolic steroids were allegedly found at the premises during the March 11 raid.


A second package also was intercepted on its way to the same address and 18 more vials of the substance were found.


Mr Latimer said a Surry Hills man faced two charges of importing prohibited imports and one of possessing a prohibited import. He was yet to be summonsed to court. The maximum penalty on each charge is $110,000.


"There are some quite ingenious methods of concealment attempted by people," Mr Latimer said. "I can comment specifically how frequently it happens inside a book but it's been done before.


"It just struck us somewhat ironic that it was done inside The Da Vinci Code." The Da Vinci Code has been on the New York Times Bestseller List since its release in April 2003. It tells a tale of a conspiracy theory, that a secret sect has left a code in several art works which holds the truth about Jesus Christ.


Mr Latimer said all international mail coming into the country was "assessed for potential risk" and then investigated further if found to be suspicious. He could not however comment on why this particular parcel came to the attention of the authorities because he did not want to give the game away to potential offenders.


Justice Minister Chris Ellison said the case served as a strong warning to offenders. "This bust sends a strong reminder that Customs screens 100 per cent of all international mail arriving in Australia," he said.

 

[StelZ23]

Please read the last sentence! A fine of 220.000 is a bit much for 12 vials

----------------

Loaded Da Vinci Code


March 29, 2005
www.smh.com.au
AAP


Australian customs officers found more than an interesting read when they intercepted a copy of the best-selling novel, The Da Vinci Code, sent from overseas.


The book, mailed from London to Sydney, contained twelve vials of performance enhancing anabolic steroids, Australian Customs Services spokesman Simon Latimer said today. The paperback book had four sections cut out from the pages in which the vials were hidden, he said.


Customs officers detected the illegal substance on February 23 and executed a search warrant on a Surry Hills residence. Four more vials of anabolic steroids were allegedly found at the premises during the March 11 raid.


A second package also was intercepted on its way to the same address and 18 more vials of the substance were found.


Mr Latimer said a Surry Hills man faced two charges of importing prohibited imports and one of possessing a prohibited import. He was yet to be summonsed to court. The maximum penalty on each charge is $110,000.


"There are some quite ingenious methods of concealment attempted by people," Mr Latimer said. "I can comment specifically how frequently it happens inside a book but it's been done before.


"It just struck us somewhat ironic that it was done inside The Da Vinci Code." The Da Vinci Code has been on the New York Times Bestseller List since its release in April 2003. It tells a tale of a conspiracy theory, that a secret sect has left a code in several art works which holds the truth about Jesus Christ.


Mr Latimer said all international mail coming into the country was "assessed for potential risk" and then investigated further if found to be suspicious. He could not however comment on why this particular parcel came to the attention of the authorities because he did not want to give the game away to potential offenders.


Justice Minister Chris Ellison said the case served as a strong warning to offenders. "This bust sends a strong reminder that Customs screens 100 per cent of all international mail arriving in Australia," he said.

bro relax the person who did that is not gonna get himself a fine of $220 000. he wont even get in that much trouble either. its was just a good story to print, that they found the gear in this book and the way it was hidden. i myself got caught recently by australian customs and the package in question was way more than 12 amps. as far as bringing gear into australia, DONT DO IT BRO, I REPEAT: DONT DO IT. customs here are the best in the world, and they are getting tighter and tighter bro, i was speaking to customs officer the other who works out at my gym. he told me that anything that arrives in Oz that comes in a bigger than normal size envolope or a box is put through an x-ray. if u can get our source to package the gear in a normal letter size envolope then do it, but u know how sources are you can never truly trust how they will package the gear! i mean in the end its your ass on the line not theirs.

 

[DIVISION]

When i was 16 i got in trouble with customs for importing something (legal in US, illegal in AUS), i was immature and ignorant at the time so didnt know what i was doing. Anyway customs caught me i needed to go to a type of customs court. So i got off with a warning. Next time however they told me i would be in a lot of shit.

I want to go on my first cycle (mail order)... but am worried because of my previous problem with customs. Do you think i need to be more cautious because of this?

I think you'd better rethink this, Elite_Fry or Aussie Customs might just boil your potato......and I'm not kidding, nugga!

Australian Customs are notorious for being nosy lil' fucks and the chances of you getting in a pack are slim.

Best of luck, babyFry.




DIV

 

[Boston Strangler]

Where there is a will, there is a way. I think there is always some way to get it in there, some sources are quite crafty. Is the risk worth the reward though? That is up to you to decide.

-BS

 

[DIVISION]

Damn right he is on a "watch list." Not only his name but the address and any address with his name on it in the future. I say it all the time ...... do whatever it takes to remain ANONYMOUS!!! Its really not that hard.

Wonder how many people log into this forum with their real IP? Bad bad bad!! Always use a proxy , especially if you post alot.

I am working on several tutorials to help you guys stay safe. However I will not hold anyones hand, you must do a little legwork.

Don't you think that's a bit paranoid?

Do you really think the Feds have access to IP addy's on this site?

They have no basis for collecting that info, there's no just cause.




DIV

 

[fonixer]

It time to move towards powder's fry alot more chance of getting it though
And paper But there only limit to orals
So get your cooking goves on bro

 

[RoHudTuffy]

My friend showed me a software program he had, as a plain old citizen that pulled up IP's off sites like this. He showed me how to work it - low level ordinary people can check IP's. Heck they hack hushmail.

 

[Watson]

A buddy of mine just got busted for four bottles and about 50 pills. They got it going through customs, called the local law enforcement (what's going down where I'm from right now is a whole other story) and they took it over. Busted his door in 2 minutes after signing for it. Depends on if the local enforcement wants take the case or not. The DEA is literally walking all over the place where I'm from and they are looking for nothing other than steroids, so of course they jumped all over it. I wouldn't sign for anything.

 

[DIVISION]

How can we smuggle in some fresh gear for Elite_Fry without boiling his potato with a CD?

We want the fry to live.....





DIV

 

[_Yossarian_]

there's a small airborne rodent that might be able to help you. He used to fly around Australia, but that was a year or 2 ago....

 

[PolfaJelfa]

What a pathetic country(talking about the government and a good number of subjects).....No freedom, No Right to bear arms, people getting killed by savages in the country side , wives and children raped and not allowed to protect themselves. We must watch what is going on here so that we dont end up as another Australia!

 

[iamnikvanhelsing]

What a pathetic country(talking about the government and a good number of subjects).....No freedom, No Right to bear arms, people getting killed by savages in the country side , wives and children raped and not allowed to protect themselves. We must watch what is going on here so that we dont end up as another Australia!

Ah but I'm pretty sure the US has more violent crime, murders, rapes etc than any other country out there does it not? Certain areas of South Africa may be a bit more dangerous but on the whole gun crime in the US is huge. Australia is a far safer choice to settle down, as is the UK!!! Just what we read and see on the news bro.

 

[DIVISION]

Ah but I'm pretty sure the US has more violent crime, murders, rapes etc than any other country out there does it not? Certain areas of South Africa may be a bit more dangerous but on the whole gun crime in the US is huge. Australia is a far safer choice to settle down, as is the UK!!! Just what we read and see on the news bro.

I think Polfa's point was that our country has freedoms that other countries don't and that we need to keep it that way. I'm sure Australia is safe compared to the US, but that's no consolation when you can't get a fresh pack of gear through Customs. Aussie Customs are thieves and whores, from what I've heard they confiscate gear, use it for themselves regularly. If that's not hypocrisy, I don't know what is.

I wish we could find a coordinated way to get Elite_Fry his gear......





DIV

 

[_Yossarian_]

Ah but I'm pretty sure the US has more violent crime, murders, rapes etc than any other country out there does it not?

lol, you must be kidding!! More violent crime than any other country?!?!? You must be forgetting a couple of continents.....

 

[iamnikvanhelsing]

Well yeah there are a few other dangerous places around but the point I was making was, yes the US has freedoms that others dont, like being able to carry a weapon etc, but these freedoms have also lead to more violence and death. I would rather have a harder time getting gear than fear getting shot on the street. Thats all.

 

[DIVISION]

Well yeah there are a few other dangerous places around but the point I was making was, yes the US has freedoms that others dont, like being able to carry a weapon etc, but these freedoms have also lead to more violence and death. I would rather have a harder time getting gear than fear getting shot on the street. Thats all.

Bro, it's not a matter of Elite_Fry "having a hard time" getting gear, there's not much of a chance he'll ever get ANY gear past Aussie Customs.

I have no idea how he's gonna do this.

I just have a serious problem when the government starts infringing on your privacy......opening packages because they want to.....if there's a leak or something I can understand that for safely, but not opening a pack because they feel like it. That shit doesn't fly.




DIV

 

[iamnikvanhelsing]

Bro, it's not a matter of Elite_Fry "having a hard time" getting gear, there's not much of a chance he'll ever get ANY gear past Aussie Customs.

I have no idea how he's gonna do this.

I just have a serious problem when the government starts infringing on your privacy......opening packages because they want to.....if there's a leak or something I can understand that for safely, but not opening a pack because they feel like it. That shit doesn't fly.




DIV

Yeah I hear ya with that one. Problem is they're all so paranoid over the threat of terrorism joe public doesn't stand a chance! On one hand they're protecting you and your country, but on the other completely taking away our privacy. Your right, the package you send to a friend is non of they're fucking business, but what if that package they think looks a bit sus (no pun intended) is actually ingrediants for some Alkaida (dont know how to spell that word) bomb!? But then yeah I guess those big fucking customs guys (yeah I've been to New York and LA and they're big guys) are taking the gear and shooting it themselves just like the Aussie ones probably are!

Maybe you could send it in sesame oil bottles or something?! Like replace the oil with the gear and send a batch over as a food stuff order or something?! Hmm there's an idea.

 

[DIVISION]

Maybe you could send it in sesame oil bottles or something?! Like replace the oil with the gear and send a batch over as a food stuff order or something?! Hmm there's an idea.

That's not sterile.....



DIV

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Ah but I'm pretty sure the US has more violent crime, murders, rapes etc than any other country out there does it not? Certain areas of South Africa may be a bit more dangerous but on the whole gun crime in the US is huge. Australia is a far safer choice to settle down, as is the UK!!! Just what we read and see on the news bro.

I meant that Australia has no freedom and we should not go down its path.

Iamnikvanhelsing......US highest crime rate in the world...? OMG...you are completely wrong.... The US is one of the safest countrys out there.......the numbers of crimes in the us as a total are high because of the population etc. Not % ..... Gun crimes...lmfao...you have no idea what you are remotely talking about.....Europe etc....have same or higher murder rates..using Knives, hatchets, and Guns alike. People dont discriminate when it comes to murder...The 46 States with Right to cary provisions......have 46% lower vioent crime rates....30% lower ,urders, 66% rapes then states that have firearm restrictions.. Unsurprisingly...the murder capital of the USA Washington DC.....had a over40$ lower total violent crime rate be4 gun restirctions...! Its simple science....There is a positive corelation between gun ownership and reduced crime! Remember a criminal does not look at the law and say ...aw damn that is illegal.....if he is going to rob a store or murder someone he is going to do it weather there is a law or not.....The only people who sufer are law abiding citizens.....who can not defend themselves from criminals...Its common sense....Its no big surprise that the Red Cross is going block to block in the UK to teach homeowners how to deal with gunshot wounds....people being attacked in their homes in broad daylingt because the criminals kknow they are defensless!


Please feel free to chalenge me so that i may show you the statistisc....FBI, Dept of Justice, etc.

What is amazign to me is ho weasy media bias and overall uneducated masses can be brainwashed...and made to think something thru numbers that are misleading! (No offense)

I will post tomorow statistics and facts about the USA Australia, and Great Britain...... ( Which after confiscation of firearms have over 60% higher violent crime then be4) This will be fun!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

but these freedoms have also lead to more violence and death. I would rather have a harder time getting gear than fear getting shot on the street. Thats all.

Care to back this up with any real data...Crime Statistics, Dept of Justice, FBI, Chiefs OF Police, Bureau of Alcohol Tabaco Firearms....?
Naw i bet you dont......why is that..because what you said is simply a fabrication!

I will have the truth for you to read...then you can see yow you have been mislead and brainwashed by the MEDIA BIASED LIBERALISM!
No offense bro!

 

[dirty~d~]

Question: What does that have to do with Elite_Fry's concerns??

 

[DIVISION]

Question: What does that have to do with Elite_Fry's concerns??

The thread got jacked, but our intentions were there...

As you can see Elite_Fry hasn't exactly chimed in or participated in the thread.

He tends to make a thread and run off and watch what everyone else posts....




DIV

 

[sorerotators]

Advocates of gun control want us to believe that banning private gun ownership will reduce violent crime. In 1996, in the wake of a mass shooting, the Australian government seized more than 640,000 guns from its citizens. According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, in the next two years, armed robbery rose by 73%, unarmed robbery by 28%, kidnaping by 38%, assault by 17% and manslaughter by 29%.

Interesting.

 

[sorerotators]

Another rate that will strike terror in the heart of every woman is the rate of hot burglaries, which are burglaries that take place when people are home. I think one of my worst nightmares would be to wake up in the dead of night to find an intruder in my room. Yet, most criminals in this country know that breaking in with people home is a good way to get shot. In fact, if someone were to break into my home when we are home, that is exactly what will happen. The hot burglary rate in the U.S. is 13%. However, in countries with strict gun control, such as England and Canada, the hot burglary rate is closer to 50%. The criminals know that their victims, having been rendered helpless by their governments, cannot defend themselves.

I dont know about you. But if i was burglar, or a rapist. I would absolutely love to live in these countries.

 

[The Angry Mule]

When i was 16 i got in trouble with customs for importing something (legal in US, illegal in AUS), i was immature and ignorant at the time so didnt know what i was doing. Anyway customs caught me i needed to go to a type of customs court. So i got off with a warning. Next time however they told me i would be in a lot of shit.

I want to go on my first cycle (mail order)... but am worried because of my previous problem with customs. Do you think i need to be more cautious because of this?

Becareful bro,Australia has some of the most strictest custom measures in the world.Depending on the size of your order I personally think your chances of actually recieving your cycle are slim to none.Although I could be wrong and if ther are any ozzies here with any mail order success stories please let me know.

 

[sorerotators]

Elite fry, i wouldnt risk it bro. look around for ways to obtain stuff already inside your borders. to risky.

 

[gotmilk]

Question: What does that have to do with Elite_Fry's concerns??

Hey fry....can't you find a source in-country? There must be plenty of juice around gyms there.

 

[nutsnack]

if you are identifying crime as any illegal activity, the US does have the highest crime rate in the world if you want to argue about population why doesn't china (1.25 billion people give or take) have the amount of crime the US (300 million people give or take) does?
china reported
Criminal offences recorded 1.69 million,
Minor offences 2.96 million
Theft of Various Types 1.13 million IN 1995

and the U.S. stats in 1995

13,862,700 index (US crime index rates per 100,000 people)
1,798,790 Violent crimes
12,063,900 property crimes
21,610 murders
97,470 Forcible rapes
580,510 Robbery's
1,099,210 Aggrevated assault
2,593,800 Burglaries
7,997,700 Larceny - Theft
1,472,400 Vechile Theft

There's a pretty simple ratio

US a shit load more crime then china..
china shit load more people then US..

 

[nutsnack]

There is a positive corelation between gun ownership and reduced crime!

This is true but not in ALL cases, you can look at different government ideologies. When Germany split there was government control (in the east) over just about every aspect of life and the west was there w/ their liberal bullshit government. 35-40 years after that the murder rates were still almost identical, west was actually a little higher.. you can look at this and ignore other factors or u can look at what else happened during that time.. suicide rates were almost twice as much on the east compared to the west but is suicide a violent crime?

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Nutsack.... good stats abour germany...but dont forget the 5+ million jews that were disarmed...years before others prevented from bearing arms or even long knives......where are they now? 5+ Milll 6 feet Deep!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

As for Elitefrys post....
Bro i would also not risk it there unless you have too...or have a proven way

 

[KA-BAR]

Its common sense more crime will happen if you take guns away. Criminals will not have to worry about breaking into homes. Bad guys will always be able to get guns. Right to carry has been proven to cut back on crime. I carry one with me just about everywhere I am allowed to. I walked in to dairy mart fully armed the other day. lol a bad guy pulls a gun on the cleark 2-3 of us good guys pull guns on him. Crimmininals think 2x around here before they get stupid. Too many good old boys.

My oldest daughter is well trained with my arsenal incase someone tries to break into my house when I am not home. My wife used to be afraid of them but I am now teaching her how to use my 40 cal. I am also going to try and train my 8 year old daughter how to use my M1 Carbine.

The way I look at things is this....Its better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them.

 

[KA-BAR]

OH yea. Sorry to jack the thread.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

"My oldest daughter is well trained with my arsenal incase someone tries to break into my house when I am not home. My wife used to be afraid of them but I am now teaching her how to use my 40 cal. I am also going to try and train my 8 year old daughter how to use my M1 Carbine.

The way I look at things is this....Its better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them. "

We need more people like you bro. God Bless You, and may God Continue to Bless America!

 

[nutsnack]

Its common sense more crime will happen if you take guns away. Criminals will not have to worry about breaking into homes. Bad guys will always be able to get guns. Right to carry has been proven to cut back on crime. I carry one with me just about everywhere I am allowed to. I walked in to dairy mart fully armed the other day. lol a bad guy pulls a gun on the cleark 2-3 of us good guys pull guns on him. Crimmininals think 2x around here before they get stupid. Too many good old boys.

My oldest daughter is well trained with my arsenal incase someone tries to break into my house when I am not home. My wife used to be afraid of them but I am now teaching her how to use my 40 cal. I am also going to try and train my 8 year old daughter how to use my M1 Carbine.

The way I look at things is this....Its better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them.

Actually statistics show that 75% of home burlaries take place when the owner is not home so gun ownership has very little to do in regards to break in's... i'm not a big gun ho but believe people do have the right to bare arms if they need, i personally do not own a gun and will never but that is mainly due to the fact of where i grew up and the community i live in.. i don't live in a poverty or crime ridden city and don't fear my life an any way (i fear more of being in a car wreck and dying then being murdered).. Training an 8 year old to use an M1 carbine is a very touchy subject, yes it will help her understand guns and if she ever does need to use them she can infact use it but then the liberal is going to say why the hell does an 8 year old need to know how to use a m1carbine? Children on Children murders have been at an all time high lately but this COULD be changed if we taught them how to use the guns right or you could look at it that if they didnt know how to use them the murders would drop.. i haven't ever seen a correlation study on children murders but i do know most murders that happen w/ children is usually simply because the parents r morons and its simply parent negligence

 

[elwaydaddy]

I wasnt to smart in college and me and some friends from the football team ordered a 1000 dbol and 500 clen from a source in tailand. Not a good decision to have the stuff shipped to my apartment. The gear came in about 10 different envelopes. Customs got a hold of a package and sent it to the local police department. So one day I got an envelope that was taped. I didnt think anything of it at the time so I brought it into my house. Not 2 minutes later I had about 12 police officers pointing guns at me why Im sitting in my room. They took me down to the police station and I told the officer the story and that I wouldnt name names. He said he respected that. After a few visits to the court and public defendant I ended up with a $1000 fine, 4 days in jail, and 100 hours community service. I worked at a elderly home in college so I counted that as community service. The $1000 sucked but the 4 days in jail was the worst. This was over Christmas that I served the 4 days and the day I went in was the day my parents were flying in to visit my brother and his new baby. So for 4 days they wondered where I was. I got out of it because I said I was working overtime and they believed me. Me and a handful of people know about my ordeal. And I was on probabtion for 2 years and I got charged with 2 misdemeanors that will be off my record in a few years. So what did I learn? Get a f#@kin PO BOX!

 

[sprinter86]

You were crazy going to court. When I was in OZ, I had one shipment busted... 30amps of Sustanon250 + 200 dbols. Got the letter in the mail stating that the controlled substances had been confiscated and I had to send a letter stating why I imported it and if I had a prescription for it.

I just threw the letter in the bin and that was the last I ever heard of it. And I even ordered again with the same address (2amps) to test if it would get busted again. It got through... along with all the following orders. This was in 1998, it may be tougher now.

 

[elwaydaddy]

I didnt have a choice going to court. I was being charged with 7 felonies and 50,000 bail which was dropped to $0 after they spoke with me and realized I was just a collge student trying to put on some size.