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BeastJay's First Cycle Sust&Dbol

beastjay

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Hey Bro's

Just started my first cycle on Monday 17/01/05 so i'm roughly a week in.
Week 1 - 10 500mg Sust (2 Shots Wed, Sat)
Week 1 - 4 Dbol 30mg Per day
PCT
Will be Nolva on its own 3 weeks after last sust injection.
Nolva on hand if any gyno problems


Pinned for first time last Wednesday 19/01/05, 1ml sust 250. Oh my god, how easy. Drew oil with 23g 1 and half inch, Used 25g 1 inch in the right glute. Aspirated, all clear so shot. Massaged for about 5 mins afterwards.
Stats
Age 20, 21 in 7 weeks. Height 5, 10. Weight 178lbs. B/f 14%. Been training for about 5 years, hardcore for 3 of them. Around 3500 - 4000 cals per day. Loads of protein. Diet, sorted (Gym Instructor so i now me stuff). Looking to put on around 10 - 20 lbs but i'm realistic so i won't be expecting too much.

I'll try and keep this journal updated, i'll post some before and after pics once i'm done. Looking forward to the sust kicking in. I feel fuller and stronger already, i've not weighed myself up to now. Probably will at end of this week so two weeks in.

Later Bro's
 
Hey dude!! wow ur stats are very simlar to when i started my cycle!! keep posting buddy!! kick in some milk thistle or ALA or Liv.52 to help ur liver out!! 1000mg e/d throughout taking dianabol! ur love the pump the dianabol gives you! and as i'm just experiencing the test kicking in makes training all that much better look forward to it!

- nineham
 
Same as my first cycle years ago.. They say "If you can't grow off Sust and Dbol, you shouldn't be cranking!!" or else it's fake of course.. Good luck bro!! I've always used 23g 1" splikes.. 1 1/2 a little long for my liking, unless you're a pro with huge amounts of mass/muscle, I don't think you need anything that deep.. :eek2:
 
Hi again guys, just a quick progress report.
Day 10 today. 3rd injection, went fine. Getting used to it all now.

Trained Chest and Triceps tonight, felt so strong and pumped. All weights up and some good numbers too. Not weighted myself yet, waiting another week or so but i feel fuller and some people commented if i was on, told them i've got my diet 100% ha, ha. :)

Later Bro's.
Oh Nineham, by the way, i'm taking milk thistle 600mg a day. started when i started the dbol. No sides whatsoever up to know.
 
Day 15 Monday 31/01/05

Trained Back and Traps tonight, strength up on pretty much everything. Looking so much fuller now. Eating like a horse. Not been weighing myself so far as i've been getting a bit paranoid about if i've made gains or not, well i finally bit the bullet and weighed after i'd eaten tonight, well i'm up 7lbs. 12stone9 or 177lbs. Got my next shot on wednesday then training chest so i'll update then. Nothing much in the way of sides except for some painful lower back pumps tonight, oily skin and massively increased sex drive!!! :rolly:

Later Guys
 
Day 23 Tuesday 8th February 2005

Sorry for the lack of updates guys, work has been busy. Weighed myself again last night, up to 180lbs (12,10 Stone) so up 10 lbs so far. Right on target for 20 lbs total gain and only 3 full weeks in. Sust is kicking in, all weights up at gym and next time i post i'll give a break down of exercises in particular.

Getting used to the shots, had 6 so far but the last one i did in my left glute is giving me the good old charlie horse feeling. :worried:

Later Bro's
 
Day 35 Monday 21st Feb 2005

Another update guys

5 full weeks in all going well so far. Finished the Dbol and ended up doing another week so week 1 -5 at 30mg per day. Sides wise, nothing that i couldn't deal with, lower back pumps but nothing much. Will definately be using Dbol next cycle. Strength is through the roof, gotta watch out for any injuries! Examples:-
Pre Cycle Currently
Flat Bench 30Kg each side 4 reps 40KG each side 6 reps
Lat Pulldown 70Kg 8 reps 100KG 8 reps
Hammer Row 41KG 6 reps 45KG 8 reps

Week in week out my weights are up on everything. Weighed myself again up to 13stone1 and a quarter (183lbs). Started at 170lbs so up 13lbs.

Update in a bit.
Later Bro's :)
 
well done pro....congratulations to getting closer to your target 20lbs that's nice ...i gained about 21.8 lbs in my first cycle but with slight difference...for the pct what about using clomid and hcg ..no intension to use 'em after getting off ..keep me informed by why ? .....train hard:)
 
Good post. 2 questions as I'm about to do the same cycle myself.
1. brand name having the most sucess with? I've got Organon Egypt - sust
and BD d-bol. Can possibly get BD andropen 275 (sust). Any thoughts?

2. Been doing a lot of new reading on PCT. What are the bros thoughts after this cycle? I've got different views regarding nolva during the entire cycle or just after. I don't think clomid is necessary but I don't like to gamble.

thanks
 
I'm starting my first cycle soon , 500 mg testE EW 10weeks. I bench pretty much the same as you, 32kgs on each side, so will be fun to see if I progress compared to you. Not going with dbol.


But nice progress bro :)
 
hi bro ...keep on and i'd like to comment on Organon - Egypt products i can guarantee if it is real you 'll be very happy of the results you can send the batch no and let us try to check it i used to use the real ones long time ago " bringing 'em directly from egypt :))" ..for the second part why we can't get the maximum precaution i mean go and take all of the pct components nolva, clomid, and hcg and back to the conflict yea u'll find a lot of openions or suggestion to take them but you can get a compromise for me start to read whatever is wrote on the web about this issue i said try and put notes evrytime u surf the web i think you 'll get a good and clear picture on this ...for me :
during the cycle i take 2 tabs of the proviron evryday during the whole course
then after getting the last shot by about 1 week i start to take hcg 5000/w " about 1500 mg EOD " for three weeks and at the begining of the forht week i start the clomid and nolva as:
day 1 :300 mg
day 2 - 14 :100 mg
day 15 - 30 : 50 mg

nolva "tamoxifene" day 1 - 30 : 20 mg
good luck .....bro


- he came to pay a debt he didn't owe because we owed a debt we could't pay - unknown
 
Day 52 Middle of Week 8

Sorry again guys for the lack of updates but i've been busy training, eating and working. Weight is 183 1/4 so up 13 1/4 total. One big thing i have noticed is since stopping the Dbol i have lost pretty much all the water and leaned out a lot. I have got hardly any water from this sust, just a bit of moon face. So i think the 13 or so lbs is lean muscle. Strength didn't decrease at all after dropping the Dbol, just keeps going up and up. I've got to watch out for injuries thou, my left delt tweeked a bit during my last Delt workout, think its from heavy Lat raises (38lbs for 10 reps).

Looking back i would have liked to have added some winny from week 7 onwards but hey, thats something i can look to in the future. Had to increase my total cals to compensate for all this extra body weight because i lose bodyweight even thinking about missing a meal.

Update soon guys.
Later BeastJay :)
 
Im doing the same cycle coming this summer bro. Are you looking at any HCG? I hear without it you can get some major depression bro. I was not clear about what someone else was saying before about it.
 
Day 75 End of Week 10

Hey Bro's

Again sorry for the lack of updates but i've been so into my training and diet i haven't had much time to get on ef. Trained Delts and Biceps this morning, still improving week on week. I tested my bodyfat this morning after the gym on a bodystat machine. You know the one's where you attach electrodes to hands and feet and it sends a pulse through your body (got one at the gym i work at). When i started cycle i was around 15% at 12stone 2lb. Now am 11.5% at 13stone 2lb. Dropped 4 % at put a stone on. Love it!

So glad i only did sust as first cycle. Gonna do 12 weeks instead of 10 so 2 weeks left of sust. Then pct of nolvadex, creatine cycle and trib. Natural for 8 weeks then another 12 weeker as second cycle. Gonna do sust again at 500ml per week, add deca at 400ml per week (2 shots per week again) and up dbol to 50mg per week as kicker for first 5 weeks.

Later Bro's
BeastJay ;)
 
beastjay said:
Day 75 End of Week 10

Hey Bro's

Again sorry for the lack of updates but i've been so into my training and diet i haven't had much time to get on ef. Trained Delts and Biceps this morning, still improving week on week. I tested my bodyfat this morning after the gym on a bodystat machine. You know the one's where you attach electrodes to hands and feet and it sends a pulse through your body (got one at the gym i work at). When i started cycle i was around 15% at 12stone 2lb. Now am 11.5% at 13stone 2lb. Dropped 4 % at put a stone on. Love it!

So glad i only did sust as first cycle. Gonna do 12 weeks instead of 10 so 2 weeks left of sust. Then pct of nolvadex, creatine cycle and trib. Natural for 8 weeks then another 12 weeker as second cycle. Gonna do sust again at 500ml per week, add deca at 400ml per week (2 shots per week again) and up dbol to 50mg per week as kicker for first 5 weeks.

Later Bro's
BeastJay ;)
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Why not end your cycle with an oral, so that you can run pct immediately and start recovering immediately. So say if you were doing a 10 week cycle of say Sust and Decca through a oral in from say weeks 8-12, or 9-13.

just my $.02
 
Good advice that bro. Still learning. I had thought about winny from week 7 - 12 but as its my first cycle i can use it in the future. Gonna start Nolvadex 3 weeks after last shot of sust.
BeastJay
 
Hey Bro's

Day 84 Final Day of Week 12

Well this is it, my last day of first cycle. Bit gutted really but looking forward to my next one (In this for the long haul, after all). Overall, very happy with the way things have gone. Significant body composition changes. Pro's and con's :-

Sust
Pro's
Consistant strength and mass gains
Sex Drive
Facial hair growth
Cons
Bit of Acne on chest and back
Water retention on face, nice fat moon face!

Dbol
Pro's
V Quick water weight gains
Strength through roof

Con's
Painful back pumps
Some stomach ache.

All in all good results all round. I'll post proper bodyfat and weight results tomorrow 11/04 after i've trained back and measured everything. Pics to come too.

Later Bro's
Beastjay
 
beastjay said:
Hey Bro's

Day 84 Final Day of Week 12

Well this is it, my last day of first cycle. Bit gutted really but looking forward to my next one (In this for the long haul, after all). Overall, very happy with the way things have gone. Significant body composition changes. Pro's and con's :-

Sust
Pro's
Consistant strength and mass gains
Sex Drive
Facial hair growth
Cons
Bit of Acne on chest and back
Water retention on face, nice fat moon face!

Dbol
Pro's
V Quick water weight gains
Strength through roof

Con's
Painful back pumps
Some stomach ache.

All in all good results all round. I'll post proper bodyfat and weight results tomorrow 11/04 after i've trained back and measured everything. Pics to come too.

Later Bro's
Beastjay
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Great to here everything went well, can't wait to see some pics, I'm going into week 5 of my Sust cycle, your right on about the Dbol, hella strength gains but dammit those back pumps kill............
 
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