Epistane is a great product like stevesmi said dbol like effects with no water retention, and dylans right helladrol info is all over this board and also is a great product. U wanna bulk so i would imagine you have your bulk diet pretty fine tuned!? If you dont there are also tons of bulk diets out there i believe mr. stevesmi has some threads on that. Food makes muscles not supps, supps only aid the process. Dont forget your liver protetor, i would look into transaderm and for your pct i like forged post cycle with some daa