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Beast/Diesel/Tren Stack options

billyawesome

billyawesome

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well options i have are

needto's stack
1-4 diesel 3d
5-8 beast 3d
1-8 tren


OR

1-6 diesel 2d
1-6 beast 2d
1-6 tren


Or
needto's stack
1-4 diesel 3d
5-8 beast 3d
1-8 tren
and add test-e 250 1-8


What do you guys think and what are thoughts on adding test-e at 250 for the 8 weeks????
 
27 y/o 200 lbs 12% bf...been lifting for 3 years Limited aas history with winny, dbol and test...never done it right was younger and looking to do it right this time with proper pct....as far as diet i do eat ALOT but tend to only when hungry i currently have been trying to split up my meals more and cut out some of the junk....and i lift HARD big weights...prob switching to 5x5 routine and looking to go "on" about 4 weeks into my 5x5 routine...
 
I would personally run Beastdrol @ 30mg ed and Tren TFO @ 90mg we for four weeks tops. This is a seriously solid cycle that will produce sick gains. I wouldn't run Beast or Diesel more than four weeks at a time unless you were a very experienced user. Even then the sides might out weigh the gains imo.

What did you have in mind for PCT?
 
well for pct i was thinking pp's test recovery stack and while on i was gonna use liv-52 and cycle support and IF i thro test e in there i was def gonna run arimedex and hcg...not sure if test recovery stack will be enough if i added test-e @ 250 for 1-8
 
Doubt you will need hcg after that cycle but if u wanted i guess you could run it from week four on through. Nolvadex would be good dosed 40/30/20/10 or whatever for PCT. Arimedex during cycle if you experience some estrogen sides. Good luck on the cycle and keep us updated
 
scmc what do you think on the stack? this is the one I kinda leaning towards...should provide some serious gains....how do you feel about adding test-e to needto's stack

needto's stack
1-4 diesel 3d
5-8 beast 3d
1-8 tren
and add test-e 250 1-8
 
billyawesome said:
scmc what do you think on the stack? this is the one I kinda leaning towards...should provide some serious gains....how do you feel about adding test-e to needto's stack

needto's stack
1-4 diesel 3d
5-8 beast 3d
1-8 tren
and add test-e 250 1-8
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If you can add test-E, do it.
 
ok cool...thought it would work good...figured i'd ask the pros on here. Was thinking about adding Dermacrine to it but what weeks would i us it and what would be the benefits?

While "on" i plan on using cycle support and liv-52 for liver support

And was thinking about using hcg and Arimidex as needed

PCT I was looking at PP's total recovery stack...would that be enough?

Also what is difference between Aromasin and Arimidex?
 
billyawesome said:
ok cool...thought it would work good...figured i'd ask the pros on here. Was thinking about adding Dermacrine to it but what weeks would i us it and what would be the benefits?

While "on" i plan on using cycle support and liv-52 for liver support

And was thinking about using hcg and Arimidex as needed

PCT I was looking at PP's total recovery stack...would that be enough?

Also what is difference between Aromasin and Arimidex?
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You don't need dermacrine if you are using testosterone.


How long are you planning, 8 weeks?

If you use HCG, you will need the AI. Either aromasin or arimidex will work. Adex uses a much lower dose, but aromasin is more agressive/efficient at getting rid of estrogen.
 
IF YOU DECIDE TO I would probably throw dermacrine in the last 4 weeks just incase your libido begins to drop the DHEA might have a positive impact there. Aromasin and Arimidex are quite similar i've heard people prefer aromasin though. There is a site sponsor that carries legit hcg, aromasin, arimidex, nolvadex, clomid whatever you need. PP's test recovery stack would work well but i would throw nolva or clomid in there as well to be safe.
 
well i only have 8 weeks of test-e 250

Is there any downside to Aromisin over Arimidex?

And whats the difference between Nolvadex and clomid? And is one prfered over the other?

When should i start PCT b/c I know they say to start it right after beast and tren but to start it a week after the test-e

In regards to the HCG i dont have it yet but it was recomended for me to take it....do you guys agree that i should take it?
 
billyawesome said:
well i only have 8 weeks of test-e 250

Is there any downside to Aromisin over Arimidex?

And whats the difference between Nolvadex and clomid? And is one prfered over the other?

When should i start PCT b/c I know they say to start it right after beast and tren but to start it a week after the test-e

In regards to the HCG i dont have it yet but it was recomended for me to take it....do you guys agree that i should take it?
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I've heard that people prefer Aromasin over Arimidex but EITHER ONE will be fine dude. I would use Nolva over clomid and so would MANY other people. Clomid can actually hurt your eyesight permenantly. Fuck that.

I would start pct as soon as the test has cleared your system
 
Ok guys this is my plan let me know if this is good

1-4 diesel
5-8 Beast
1-8 Tren TFO
1-8 Test-e @250/wk
4-11 Hcg @ 500 iu/week
Aromasin as needed
9-13 Nolva 20mg ed
9-finish Primordial Test Recovery Stack

oh and of course liv-52 and cycle support 1-8




opinions....anything need to be changed around??? add anything???


should i add post cycle and or unleashed??
 
billyawesome said:
Ok guys this is my plan let me know if this is good

1-4 diesel
5-8 Beast
1-8 Tren TFO
1-8 Test-e @250/wk
4-11 Hcg @ 500 iu/week
Aromasin as needed
9-13 Nolva 20mg ed
9-finish Primordial Test Recovery Stack

oh and of course liv-52 and cycle support 1-8




opinions....anything need to be changed around??? add anything???


should i add post cycle and or unleashed??
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Add PostCycle to your PCT.
 
billyawesome said:
Ok guys this is my plan let me know if this is good

1-4 diesel
5-8 Beast
1-8 Tren TFO
1-8 Test-e @250/wk
4-11 Hcg @ 500 iu/week
Aromasin as needed
9-13 Nolva 20mg ed
9-finish Primordial Test Recovery Stack

oh and of course liv-52 and cycle support 1-8




opinions....anything need to be changed around??? add anything???


should i add post cycle and or unleashed??
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Dude.. That is a NASTY cycle. Keep us updated on your progress, you're going to get huge :evil::evil::evil::evil:
 
Well I'm 5'11'' 200 lbs now at about 12-13% bf . After cycle and pct is over i want to be 215 at same body fat (realistic goals) 220 is where i REALLY want to be. I'm about 1-2 weeks from the start of my cycle and once started I will start a log and probably give weekly updates. Hopefully I'm only a week from the start of this but I want all my ducks in a row before I start.

I was worried if 4 weeks of nolva is enough and if 20mg ed is good. Some people say to do 40mg a day for first 2 weeks of pct then 20mg ed for next 2 weeks.


Oh and I will be taking Amplify 02 as my pre-workout supp. :evil:
 
amplify ON cycle? I would save it for PCT. Your pumps are going to be ridiculous with just the hormones ...
 
i will prob use it for first 2-3 weeks of cycle and then again pct...gonna see how i feel.

Right now I take No Shotgun. The main reason i take pre workout drink now is for the energy boost and mental focus not for the pumps.
 
If you use derma you can make a nice long cycle that is a little safer to. Like this.

1-4 deisel and tren tfo 1 cap 3 times a day
1=4 liver sup
4-8 dermacrin 5 pumps ed no orals give liver and lipids a brake
8-12 beast and tfo 1 cap 3 times day.
8-12 liver sup
12-16 test recovery stack pct. or unleashed/post cycle sustain alpha.
 
needtogetaas said:
If you use derma you can make a nice long cycle that is a little safer to. Like this.

1-4 deisel and tren tfo 1 cap 3 times a day
1=4 liver sup
4-8 dermacrin 5 pumps ed no orals give liver and lipids a brake
8-12 beast and tfo 1 cap 3 times day.
8-12 liver sup
12-16 test recovery stack pct. or unleashed/post cycle sustain alpha.
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This looks better to me. You're running two of the harshest oral aas for 8 weeks straight in your proposed cycle. You should get before and after blood done. AI's cycle support is a must too. I would preload it and run it through PCT.
 
needtogetaas said:
If you use derma you can make a nice long cycle that is a little safer to. Like this.

1-4 deisel and tren tfo 1 cap 3 times a day
1=4 liver sup
4-8 dermacrin 5 pumps ed no orals give liver and lipids a brake
8-12 beast and tfo 1 cap 3 times day.
8-12 liver sup
12-16 test recovery stack pct. or unleashed/post cycle sustain alpha.
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do i still run my test-e 1-8 or should i run it 4-12 or should i run it 3-11 so that i can start pct right after my last day of beast?

and when do i take the tren?

will nolva still be needed for pct like this?

how about hcg?

LOL thought i had this figured out now theres a wrench in the works.

Thanks for helping me make this safer tho!!
 
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ok this is what im thinking now...two weeks off between diesel and beast and taking derma in between the two. Also moved the test-e back a week and will continue the beast one week after last shot so that i can start pct right after last day on beast. Cycle support and pct will be the same as before. Thoughts?


1-4 diesel
2-9 test
4-6 derma
6-10 beast
but when should i take the tren tfo???
 
billyawesome said:
do i still run my test-e 1-8 or should i run it 4-12 or should i run it 3-11 so that i can start pct right after my last day of beast?

and when do i take the tren?

will nolva still be needed for pct like this?

how about hcg?

LOL thought i had this figured out now theres a wrench in the works.

Thanks for helping me make this safer tho!!
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O ya ren the tren 4 weeks with the deiselbolan. And 4 weeks wot the beast.

Hell ya run the test from start till end. even till week 10 is good. You can run hcg if you like from week 5 till the end. 250ius twice a week. Ether way run Testosterone Recovery Stack for pct. Hit me in a pm I will give you a big discount on it. You can run 20mg ed nolva with it but its not needed if you run the hcg on cycle.
 
Ok this is how it all "stacks" up now and what my plans are

1-4 diesel and tren tfo
2-9 test
4-6 Derma
6-10 beast and tren tfo
4-11 hcg @ 500 iu/week
Arimidex as needed
10-13 nolva 20mg ed
10-finish Primordial Test Recovery Stack
10-finish post cycle and unleashed
oh and of course liv-52 and cycle support 1-10


Ok few questions-

- Should i run Hcg into my pct?

- should i take arimidex during pct also?

- and should i get another sustain to take after the TRS is done?
 
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billyawesome said:
Ok this is how it all "stacks" up now and what my plans are

1-4 diesel and tren tfo
2-9 test
4-6 Derma
6-10 beast and tren tfo
4-11 hcg @ 500 iu/week
Aromasin as needed
10-13 nolva 20mg ed
10-finish Primordial Test Recovery Stack
10-finish post cycle and unleashed
oh and of course liv-52 and cycle support 1-10


Ok few questions-

- Should i run Hcg into my pct?
no
- should i take arimidex during pct also?
sure why not. .5mg every 3 days
- and should i get another sustain to take after the TRS is done?
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Not needed but not going to hurt.
 
1-4 diesel and tren tfo
2-9 test
4-6 Derma
6-10 beast and tren tfo
4-11 hcg @ 500 iu/week
Arimidex as needed
10-13 nolva 20mg ed
10-finish Primordial Test Recovery Stack
10-finish post cycle and Unleashed
oh and of course liv-52 and cycle support 1-10


So my pct looks good any problems with it?

Any way to make it better?

Oh I will prob start taking the arimidex between 3-5 weeks in at .25mg eod just to prevent any gynio...will this hurt my gains alot?
 
billyawesome said:
1-4 diesel and tren tfo
2-9 test
4-6 Derma
6-10 beast and tren tfo
4-11 hcg @ 500 iu/week
Arimidex as needed
10-13 nolva 20mg ed
10-finish Primordial Test Recovery Stack
10-finish post cycle and Unleashed
oh and of course liv-52 and cycle support 1-10


So my pct looks good any problems with it?

Any way to make it better?

Oh I will prob start taking the arimidex between 3-5 weeks in at .25mg eod just to prevent any gynio...will this hurt my gains alot?
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Looks good to me.
 
needtogetaas said:
Looks good to me.
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And you're the MAN so I'll take your word for it.

BTW quick shipping on your beast/diesel/tren...actually came yesterday but mailman only left one of those orange slips so I have to go to the post office to pick it up. .Either way fast shipping.

My Cycle support and Liv-52 comes tomorrow so i will start to load up on those tomorrow and cycle will begin on Mon with diesel and tren.

Thanks alot to everyone especially Needto and Dabuffguy.

Will also start a log on mon. For everyone to follow. 220 lbs here i come :evil::evil::evil::evil:
 
WTF shoulda had it Sat night when i ordered your stuff LOL...deff woulda gotten it through you

Needto can you pm me discount code for pp's TRS Thanks Bro

Needto What are your stats anyway...I'm assuming your a monster...
 
Wow look at those new stacks you got too...Mastercyclists stack looks nasty...prob ALOT of LEAN gains on that one


Where is the need to sleep? Wasnt there when I ordered my stack either I DEF have to order up some of that
 
billyawesome said:
WTF shoulda had it Sat night when i ordered your stuff LOL...deff woulda gotten it through you

Needto can you pm me discount code for pp's TRS Thanks Bro

Needto What are your stats anyway...I'm assuming your a monster...
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230

squat 650
dead lift 500
bench 385 (weak I know)
mp 285
 
BTW, do you have anything that will kill the protein gas? lol..

It is funny to watch people get into the elevator I just bombed. The looks are priceless as the door begins to close on them.
 
OK guys change the stack is pct still all good....cycle should be a bit Nastier now :evil:

1-4 diesel and tren tfo
1-11 test-e @ 500 a week
4-8 Derma
8-12 beast and tren tfo
4-11 hcg @ 500 iu/week
Aromasin as needed
12-16 nolva 20mg ed
12-finish Primordial Test Recovery Stack
12-finish post cycle and Unleashed
oh and of course liv-52 and cycle support 1-12
 
Ya im taking need to advice and bridging the orals with derma and extending the test to 11 weeks and upping it from 250 to 500 a week.....hopefully keeping 20 lbs after pct wont be a prob....hopefully body fat will drop a bit too.....current diet is about 4700 ncal a day and 450 g of protein hope this works
 
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