beast cycle help...

[burritos]

new to this board... really enjoyed it so far.

I'm planning a first cycle with beast. I've read a lot and am finding a good amount of variation on a couple issues. by the way, I'm 32, 5'8, 175 now completing a cutting cycle.

1. 4 weeks of 20/20/20/20 or do I take it up to 30 weeks 2-4? I've read to keep it at 20 for a first cycle then I've read people say they didn't really have the benefits until they got to 30 per day. need some input here...

2. PCT... this is a big one. First, I need to stay 100% OTC on this one... sorry guys... just needs to be that way. From what I've read it should be very doable. I've read some places that UNLEASHED + POST CYCLE is enough PCT, run it for weeks 5-8. I've read other spots to run N2GUARD as well.... read other places to to do HCGenerate the during the cycle and post-cycle. Struggling to find a good answer on this one...

The forums are an incredible place to learn, research, gain perspective from others but one often finds so many conflicting opinions. I would love some guidance from any of you experienced folks. Thanks.

 

[shibs]

Well, the first week you won't notice much. The 2nd week is when it will really start kicking in. The dosage just depends on you. For me, the 20mg didn't do much, I didn't notice anything including sides during the first week so I bumped it up to 30mg the 2nd week. Why not? It just depends on how you react to it. Once you start and you feel like you can handle more in terms of sides etc. you can bump it up if you'd like. The unleashed and post cycle will be enough for your pct, but if you want to be safe and ensure you keep the most of your gains you could always throw in hcgenerate. The N2Guard you should run throughout your entire cycle (weeks 1-4). It is needed mostly for the liver protection.

 

[shibs]

And also, the 30mg was great for me. Still hardly any sides, just a couple cases of lethargy but that's it, and the gains were enormous. You won't be disappointed bro! But it's always a good idea to start the first week at 20mg to see how you react, it's better to be safe.

 

[stevesmi]

you be your own judge on how much to run. you can try 30mg and see how you feel. i think 20 is good enough personally. at your size you will definately see results from 20mg.

yes run N2guard or some other liver supp DURING.

and PCT I would do this.. run those natty supps you mentioned but also run HMG for 2 doses and run some nolva 20 ED for 2 weeks. that should do it.

wait 3 months then start game planning another cycle after your confirm everything is okay with blood tests testing testosterone and your full panel (kidney, liver etc) if things aren't normal then you need to wait longer till they are before doing cycle #2

 

[shibs]

you be your own judge on how much to run. you can try 30mg and see how you feel. i think 20 is good enough personally. at your size you will definately see results from 20mg.

yes run N2guard or some other liver supp DURING.

and PCT I would do this.. run those natty supps you mentioned but also run HMG for 2 doses and run some nolva 20 ED for 2 weeks. that should do it.

wait 3 months then start game planning another cycle after your confirm everything is okay with blood tests testing testosterone and your full panel (kidney, liver etc) if things aren't normal then you need to wait longer till they are before doing cycle #2

He said in his post he has to run all OTC supps

 

[burritos]

Thanks guys... this is what I'm hearing so far...

1-4 Beast 20 (see how things go and feel) then either 20/20/20 or 30/30/30
1-4 N2guard
5-8 UNLEASHED & POST CYCLE


@stevesmi - yea, all OTC for support and pct. thanks for the help though... yes, i hope I do see some good results.

 

[NeedMore]

I didnt get anything out of 20 mg of BEAST so I increased the dose to 40mg and started seeing my weight move. Now, I am on week 3 and 7 lb heavier

 

[burritos]

I didnt get anything out of 20 mg of BEAST so I increased the dose to 40mg and started seeing my weight move. Now, I am on week 3 and 7 lb heavier

Wow... that seems like a lot... maybe not your first cycle though?

 

[samo615]

I started out on 20 for a week and then bumped up to 30. Week 3 was great! Forged PCT and sustain alpha were enough PCT for me. Needto said the sustain was optional. Heard today that he has something newer and better than sustain.

 

[shibs]

Thanks guys... this is what I'm hearing so far...

1-4 Beast 20 (see how things go and feel) then either 20/20/20 or 30/30/30
1-4 N2guard
5-8 UNLEASHED & POST CYCLE


@stevesmi - yea, all OTC for support and pct. thanks for the help though... yes, i hope I do see some good results.

that looks good bro!

 

[burritos]

Guys, what about the timing of the best dosing? does it need to be at workout or dispersed through the day? I've seen people talking about both it seems.... thx!

 

[samo615]

I was recommended to space them out. When I worked out at 5pm, I took 1 beast for lunch and 2 1 hour before workout. I could feel it kicking in hard at about 4:30 and was pumped to get to the gym.

 

[burritos]

I was recommended to space them out. When I worked out at 5pm, I took 1 beast for lunch and 2 1 hour before workout. I could feel it kicking in hard at about 4:30 and was pumped to get to the gym.

Okay, thanks.... I w/o in the morning so I could do 1 or 2 (depending if I'm doing 20 or 30 per day) pre-w/o and then 1 at the end of the day before bed.

 

[samo615]

You will figure out what is comfortable once you get started. Good luck!