I bought some Prohormones made by Competive Edge labs P-Plex and tren and it sucked ..... I dont think that guy is on here anymore but I am sure diesel and Beast would blow them away ? Anyone remember those prohormones that some sponsor was selling here back in the day ? Thats y I am hesitant on any Prohormones ... I know ND2 doesnt steer anyone wrong but sometimes the other companys ruin it for the legit good ones...