Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I believe that anyone can create any type of cycle with the Testosterones, DECA, and Oxandrolone. Knowing this, there is no need for illicit meds (at least in the USA) like D-Bol, Primo and Tren/FINA. I do not think anyone needs Anadrol or Winstrol as well. At least the Testosterones, Oxandrolone, and DECA are legally and readily available. Can anyone explain why Anadrol, FINA or Winstrol are necessary for an effective AAS cycle--given the above? Food for thought.
Battle of the AAS
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Johnny Cut
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dbol simply because of its potency and availability also price, as nelson says, mg for mg, its the strongest
tren/fina its the new primo, the new "popular drug" and its non conversion to estrogen makes it more appealing, also the fact that it is extremely anabolic
tren/fina its the new primo, the new "popular drug" and its non conversion to estrogen makes it more appealing, also the fact that it is extremely anabolic
BacardiSlang
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Remember, most of us "underground steroid using weightlifters" did not have access to a doctor who knew his stuff on pharmacology and was willing to prescribe Test, Deca or Ox for effective cycle use.
We are mostly average "Joe's" that would use whatever we could get our hands on...........Primo and Winstrol were considered the "Ambrosia" of the Steroid world.
Funny how times change and being more informed makes difficult subjects of the past seem simple. Tell you the truth, I'd rather stay using my Eq, Primo, Wini, Abombs, Dbols, and Test on a "anonymous" basis like I have been doing for the last 10 years..........life is really good these days and having so much info readily available due to message boards and highly educated people make this "game" we play so exiting......wouldnt change it for the world.
We are mostly average "Joe's" that would use whatever we could get our hands on...........Primo and Winstrol were considered the "Ambrosia" of the Steroid world.
Funny how times change and being more informed makes difficult subjects of the past seem simple. Tell you the truth, I'd rather stay using my Eq, Primo, Wini, Abombs, Dbols, and Test on a "anonymous" basis like I have been doing for the last 10 years..........life is really good these days and having so much info readily available due to message boards and highly educated people make this "game" we play so exiting......wouldnt change it for the world.
Triple J
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Well testosterones carry the estrogen sides and deca carries the progesterone sides, which together result in bloat, gyno, and extreme shutdown of the HPTA. For the estrogen issues you have to take anciliaries like adex, aromisin, femara. For the progestin sides maybe bromo or dostinex. Recovery after deca can be very difficult for many.
Sure ox is a very effective and clean drug. Too bad it is so hard to get hold of it and it is so expensive.
Drugs like primo and eq are mild yet effective, and do not carry the estrogen related sides. Then for the testosterone lovers the vet and black market stuff is cheaper, too than the prescription choices. And some say that fina will not shut you down as bad as deca. Of course fina has a reputation as being one of the most effective AAS (and also many sides). I have not tried fina cause the last nandrolone I had in my system shut me down so bad I decided to avoid all progestins. Hate to throw out the good furniture with the bad but at this point I do not want to risk it.
The other orals you listed are all very effective compounds, too. And not very costly depending on source. Alot of this comes down to individual biochemistry - how does one react to progestins? how much estrogen does one produce? are there blood pressure issues? liver concerns? MPB? etc.
Although from an effectiveness perspective, testosterone, a stong anti-e, and ox would probably be very good and sufficient. Although one might still prefer a cycle of test-eq to mix in with the test-ox cycles from time to time. To take a break from the orals. The jury still seems out on just how safe ox really is for your liver.
Plus there are drugs like Proviron which are not available for RX in the USA which would be much better to administer in many cases for HRT. No estrogen sides (except as an anti-e itself), no or very little HPTA sides. No injections or gels. Beautiful
I am kind of playing devil's advocate - you have a good point, but I think such a limited choice would also have its drawbacks.
Sure ox is a very effective and clean drug. Too bad it is so hard to get hold of it and it is so expensive.
Drugs like primo and eq are mild yet effective, and do not carry the estrogen related sides. Then for the testosterone lovers the vet and black market stuff is cheaper, too than the prescription choices. And some say that fina will not shut you down as bad as deca. Of course fina has a reputation as being one of the most effective AAS (and also many sides). I have not tried fina cause the last nandrolone I had in my system shut me down so bad I decided to avoid all progestins. Hate to throw out the good furniture with the bad but at this point I do not want to risk it.
The other orals you listed are all very effective compounds, too. And not very costly depending on source. Alot of this comes down to individual biochemistry - how does one react to progestins? how much estrogen does one produce? are there blood pressure issues? liver concerns? MPB? etc.
Although from an effectiveness perspective, testosterone, a stong anti-e, and ox would probably be very good and sufficient. Although one might still prefer a cycle of test-eq to mix in with the test-ox cycles from time to time. To take a break from the orals. The jury still seems out on just how safe ox really is for your liver.
Plus there are drugs like Proviron which are not available for RX in the USA which would be much better to administer in many cases for HRT. No estrogen sides (except as an anti-e itself), no or very little HPTA sides. No injections or gels. Beautiful
I am kind of playing devil's advocate - you have a good point, but I think such a limited choice would also have its drawbacks.
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slobberknocker
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Well, as a powerlifter, dbol and test are my bread and butter. Deca's out because of testing. I'd love to do ox sometime, but it costs too much for me.
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