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Do you all really think Barry knew what the "the clear" and "the cream"
was? I think we know the truth. But i did think that the news NBC was the best i have see so far as to the truth..... but i wish they would quit trying to scare everyone.. and maybe they wont refer to them as cheaters as much.. what did you all think about the NBC special on the Dec 3.?
 
Barry Bonds had every reason to drop off this year.

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The steroid scandal hounded him. His father was gone. He got little help from batters behind him and saw too few pitches over the plate.

Then there was that little matter of his age, 40 years old, a milestone that often takes a toll on a hitter’s reflexes, his legs and sometimes on the eyes.

Yet here he is again winning the NL MVP in a walk — his fourth in a row and No. 7 overall, both records — with two years left on his contract with the San Francisco Giants. And here he is still yearning to win a World Series ring, even as he closes in on the career home run marks of Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron.

Bonds says he can’t figure out why he seems to be getting better with age. He’d like a little credit for that, rather than questions about chemical enhancements.

In truth, he’s been blessed with talent, taken care of his body in a way that he says his late alcoholic father, Bobby, and other great players did not, and he’s pushed himself to work harder every season in pursuit of that elusive ring. More than that, he was born into baseball and still loves the game.

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“There’s a light switch that turns on on me as soon as that season starts,” he said Monday from his home in Beverly Hills, Calif. “I could go through spring training in halfway-mode. But as soon as they say baseball starts, I change. Everything inside of me. I don’t know what it is.”

What keeps him going through the grind of the season, he says, is the chase for a championship.

“That one thing not being in my life is something that drives me more than anything else does,” he said. “To watch other people win drives me to want to be in that circle. Every year I try to get better.”

Bonds’ monster season was astonishing for what he did as much as for what he might have done if he hadn’t been walked so ridiculously often.

Consider a season like this: 62 home runs, 141 runs batted in, 180 runs, 188 hits, .362 batting average.

Those are the gaudy numbers Bonds would have been projected to produce, according to the statistics whizzes at the Elias Sports Bureau, if he had walked the same number of times St. Louis’ Albert Pujols did (84), instead of a record 232 times.

The hard part about all those walks — whether intentional or on pitches just outside the strike zone — is how much they wear on his concentration and his legs.

“I’ve tried to explain to players that it’s a lot harder to walk than it is to jog back to the dugout and take a rest,” he said. “I’m on my feet all day. A lot of teams wear me down. I know they do it intentionally. Sometimes I come through.

“I’m not able to do it as often as I used to. But that has to do with age, too. I’m getting older. My attention span probably isn’t going to be the same.”

As it was, Bonds hit 45 homers to push his career total to 703 (11 shy of Ruth, 52 behind Aaron), 101 RBIs, 129 runs and 135 hits, along with that .362 average. Throw in a slugging percentage of .812 and an on-base percentage of .609 (topping the .582 mark he set two years ago) and he made the issue of age almost as irrelevant as the suspicions about steroids.

Anyone can speculate on how much help Bonds has gotten in recent years if he used the steroids that his personal trainer, Greg Anderson, is charged with distributing from the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative to top athletes.

Yet in the absence of positive tests on Bonds and the lack of convictions in the ongoing investigation, the only conclusive evidence is the fact that Bonds is doing things at bat that simply can’t be attributed to any known drug.

There isn’t a steroid in the world that can account for his patience at the plate as he waits for hittable pitches, or his uncanny solid contact with the ball when he does swing. His body armor lets him hug the plate, and his short, compact swing is the deadliest in the game.

Collectively, according to Elias, players batting behind him this season produced a .264 batting average, 19 homers, 103 RBIs — not bad, but hardly the support that Pujols, Scott Rolen and Jim Edmonds gave each other in the St. Louis lineup.

Those three Cardinals finished third, fourth and fifth in the NL MVP voting behind No. 2 Adrian Beltre of Los Angeles.

Bonds says he wants a big hitter or two behind him for protection, especially young players he can teach. But he’s not pushing the Giants, who may not be able to afford the free agents out there.

“We’d all love to click our heels and get whoever we need,” Giants general manager Brian Sabean said. “Barry knows that we’re running a business and it’s not that easy. You’re also kind of married to what you do, including the size of his contract on the roster.”

San Francisco’s top priority this offseason, Sabean said, is boosting the bullpen with a closer. That means Bonds probably won’t be seeing Beltre or Carlos Beltran batting behind him next season.

Bonds might not like it but that won’t stop the light switch from going on when he hears, “Play baseball.”

Steve Wilstein is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at swilstein(at)ap.org
 
“I’ve tried to explain to players that it’s a lot harder to walk than it is to jog back to the dugout and take a rest,” he said. “I’m on my feet all day."

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Rex said:
“I’ve tried to explain to players that it’s a lot harder to walk than it is to jog back to the dugout and take a rest,” he said. “I’m on my feet all day."

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If I was 40 years old and still playing professional baseball, I'd probably be bitching like that too! :lmao:



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ChewYxRage said:
Didn't Barry say that he thought one of the steroids they were giving him was flax oil?
ya he thought the pill was flax ha ha and the cream for his joints..I think he knew...
 
what was he taking>?
 
all i know it it was some special mixture that made it through the drug screan
 
roidpuple said:
ya he thought the pill was flax ha ha and the cream for his joints..I think he knew...



Yea I don't believe that for a second.....You can only play dumb for so long....
after massive strength increase and weight gain he would know
 
I don't care if he did know....that shit wasn't against the rules of MLB until just this past season, when Barry tested negative, so it really doesn't matter.
 
Well Yeah, I mean I have nothing against him for using steroids. I just think he would have to be the most ignorant person alive to truly think he was being given flax oil....
 
It just bugs the shit out of me how everyone is piling on him, yet it was okay when Mark McGwire smashed the home run record weighing in at around 250 with 20inch forearms. I'm not a big fan of playing the race card, but this is a situation where it clearly applies: there wouldn't be half this much heat on Barry if he was white.
 
wootoom said:
what was he taking>?

His body started changing drastically in 2001, the year he started heavy cycling.

on ESPN.com they have a collage that shows his physique year by year from his rookie year all the way in to 2004 and you can see the marked changes.

Judging by his face, I'd say he's on GH and he's most likely done some Sustanon/Deca/Winny or possibly Tren........

What he was taking was no "clear" or "cream".......he was using some serious shit......not limited to GH either.




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Well i think Mark McGwire was the wake up call ...... it is just bad timing....but I am glad they are starting to get the word out that everyone is doing them....when one gets caught they call them cheaters.... the rest of the world sees it like that blindly..
...I want some people to come out say everyone is doing them and they acually make my health better....they say it lowers your immune system....why are Aids patient do so well on them....that would be smart to give somone that has an immune problem somthing that made it worse............If they are done right there is no harm
 
canadianhitman said:
It just bugs the shit out of me how everyone is piling on him, yet it was okay when Mark McGwire smashed the home run record weighing in at around 250 with 20inch forearms. I'm not a big fan of playing the race card, but this is a situation where it clearly applies: there wouldn't be half this much heat on Barry if he was white.

Get the facts straight. :) McGwire was reported to have 17 inch forearms and 19 inch biceps.
 
I think it should all come out the ones that have been tested and caught in the olympics are called cheats....is not far for them all that hard work they are doing the same as everyone else.... but if they could really stop the steroids....completly it would be fun to see how people react when all the athelets become smaller...slower...and boaring to watch......
 
Marion Jones oughta fry...they have samples of hers from way back frozen probably...and there's a precedent that retroactive testing is allowed for AAS (since the IOC policy states known substances and any and all of their DERIVATIVES are banned), so they should find some THG in her piss and ban her. That's the difference between an Olympic athlete and a ballplayer; ballplayers weren't doing anything against the rules of their sport up until the beginning of last season...olympic athletes were.
 
canadianhitman said:
Marion Jones oughta fry...they have samples of hers from way back frozen probably...and there's a precedent that retroactive testing is allowed for AAS (since the IOC policy states known substances and any and all of their DERIVATIVES are banned), so they should find some THG in her piss and ban her. That's the difference between an Olympic athlete and a ballplayer; ballplayers weren't doing anything against the rules of their sport up until the beginning of last season...olympic athletes were.
well just baseball.... but it still thought off as cheating regardless....
I mean i dont think it is anyway.....Is it cheating if you are 7foot tall in basket ball ?? what about if you are natually stronger than somone else?
what if you dont have access to hamburger meat only veggies....but i eat mean that is not far... cheater.... what about creatine... hummm.
 
ya but in every sport theer are people try to cheat the system if baseball wanted to make it illegal and give out fines and penatlies for AS then they would people knew it was all hush hush becasue it was "AMERICA'S GREAT PASTIME" it's all BS and i think that he knew fully knew but he still is one of the best to every paly the game with or without AS
 
Who the F Cares if he juiced???? It doesnt help hand eye coordination, it doesnt help him set the walks in a season record, AND its not like his jacks were just creaping over the friggn wall....he still trained harded than shit.....SO, take him off the juice....he knows parks them in row O instead of Row JJ.........big deal.
 
evedently america cares...everyone that has been lied to about steroids....we are all taught lies because the teachers were lied too.... it is great....500 years ago there were no answers to anything so they just made em up uuuuu... uuu.. well son God did it ... God made everything ........ good thing we dident leav it up to the magic god or we would not have hospitals... just pray for it honey it will be ok
 
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