Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Theres no point in giving you statistics of my body or information because it's not going to matter. Never used a steroid in my life, was looking into it but was too spooked, someone I'm close to got testosterone cream for replacement therapy so I used it, thinking it was the safest route. I'm 24 btw, rubbed the cream on for 3 or 4 months and didn't think it did much. Had blood checked and natural test was 320 before cream, which i thought was low, and 870 after! so that kind of scared me since I didn't think it was doing that much. stopped taking cream and started taking pct revolution right after, about a month and a week and not taking the cream i suddenly could not get an erection anymore. i didn't notice much of a change anywhere else but i just could not get a solid hard on. this didn't go over well with my girlfriend so i immidiately started caking it back on a little over a month ago, nuts shrank and i got hard here and there but nothing like before, had blood checked a week after and test was 770, now i just stopped again and my nuts are smaller and i don't get any kind of sex drive. i'm going to stay off of it for good i will never touch anything like that again. i can't get clomid or anything illegal like that and i don't want people to just flame and scold me. i just need some help or advice. thanks.
and thank you for your reply. i'm stressing out about it real bad. i can still get an erection at times but it's no where near as hard as it was before i took that crap or when i was taking it the first time.i thought going back on it would return everything to normal but i was sadly mistaken. i wonder if everything would still be ok if i never came off of it
I was using HCGenerate on cycle..
My libido went up, refractory period down and about 2 weeks in, my testis mass increased..
I say you get off the test gel and give HCGenerate another solo run.
I am almost certain it will fix your problem within a week.
My libido went up, refractory period down and about 2 weeks in, my testis mass increased..
I say you get off the test gel and give HCGenerate another solo run.
I am almost certain it will fix your problem within a week.
Kristofer68ss
New member
HCGenerate 10 caps ED for 2 weeks, then 5 caps ED for 2 weeks.
Low dose clomid, 50mg ED for 2 weeks, then 25mg ED for 2 weeks
done deal.
Low dose clomid, 50mg ED for 2 weeks, then 25mg ED for 2 weeks
done deal.
Thank you all for your replies. Yes I agree I should have done a whole lot more research about this before jumping into it. I don't mean to offend anyone and I'm sure it's great when done right, but I will never touch anything like this ever again. Again, thank you all for your replies and letting me in on your knowledge. It means a lot.
needtogetaas
New member
Like most people have said hcgenerate will bring the sex drive back but I think you need a full pct..
Stop the test gel and start this,.
weeks
1-4 hcgenerate 5 caps every day
1-4 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm.
Little serm, little ai, lot of test boost. KIll that shit my friend and rmember needto loves you.
thank you. can i get forma stanzol over the counter or online? i cannot get anything illegal as i have no connections whatsoever so that kind of stuff. again,, hcgenerate did nothing for me but i will give it another whirl! are there any other test boosters out there? also what is AI?
needtogetaas
New member
if you are ever un happy with anything my man just send me a email and I will refund you. That is the way i do business and everyone knows it my friend. I rather help then make money...
AI is an aromatose inhibitor. In a nutshell it restricts how much testosterone is converted to estrogens by the body.
And not to scare the shit out of you or anything but I have never been able to achieve the quality of erection that I had prior to using gear and that was four almost five years ago now (last cycle). I followed PCT and everything down to the letter but your body gets used to having a large amount of testosterone in it and for some individuals, myself included, seemingly never recover from this.
I have no problem getting an erection but its not as hard as it used to be (I used to feel like I could use it as a hammer now its just... meh), and it is difficult to maintain without constant stimulation. I have tried everything in the book to try and get my performance back to where it needs to be. I know this isn't the case for everyone out there and there are probably a lot of scoffers at this point thinking I didn't do something right but when you fuck with your bodies natural chemical balance, there is the chance, as in my case, that you never fully recover in some aspect.
That said, my nuts are as big as ever and my test and free test levels are in the high normal range... it took them a few months to get back to there glorious size but part of me wishes that I had never touched the juice simply for the fact that its permanently damaged my sexual performance. Best of luck to you!
And not to scare the shit out of you or anything but I have never been able to achieve the quality of erection that I had prior to using gear and that was four almost five years ago now (last cycle). I followed PCT and everything down to the letter but your body gets used to having a large amount of testosterone in it and for some individuals, myself included, seemingly never recover from this.
I have no problem getting an erection but its not as hard as it used to be (I used to feel like I could use it as a hammer now its just... meh), and it is difficult to maintain without constant stimulation. I have tried everything in the book to try and get my performance back to where it needs to be. I know this isn't the case for everyone out there and there are probably a lot of scoffers at this point thinking I didn't do something right but when you fuck with your bodies natural chemical balance, there is the chance, as in my case, that you never fully recover in some aspect.
That said, my nuts are as big as ever and my test and free test levels are in the high normal range... it took them a few months to get back to there glorious size but part of me wishes that I had never touched the juice simply for the fact that its permanently damaged my sexual performance. Best of luck to you!
Three cycles, each about a year apart but I noticed the effects after the first cycle and tried for over a year to get back up to par before deciding to get back on and doing the second cycles (neither of which made things worse the damage was done on the first).
Performance did get better for me while on, back to the ol' iron hammer, but unfortunately being "on" for the rest of my life isn't really a practical solution to the problem and the level of test needed in my system to get there is beyond HRT (I have talked to doctors about this). So I have been natty like I said almost five years now and test levels are in high normal range but never fully recovered in that aspect.
i just don't have much of a drive to do it. i can't concentrate on having sex because i'm really not that interested in it right now, and my pole isn't as sensitive to the touch anymore. i'm just hoping when my nuts come back and everything starts to balance out my erections and morning wood will come back with it. any other advice?
btw when i started my test level was 320, low side of normal and i'm 24 and lift, skydive, train jiu jitsu and muay thai, and had the sex drive of a navy fleet. i thought i would be bleeding testosterone and then got my levels checked and that was much to my surprise. so i guess that's why i didn't feel that bad about doing it for a few months to try it. and it was test gel, nothing like the injectable shit they use at the gym. i didn't gain a bunch of muscle or anything crazy. but it jacked my test levels up to almost 900!
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lartinos
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If you were naturally producing little to begin with you were screwed anyway most likely at 24.
I would just run some test cyp or enan at an HRT dose. Your other option is just to wait it out and give it some time.
I would just run some test cyp or enan at an HRT dose. Your other option is just to wait it out and give it some time.
no, because even though it was 320 i have been nothing but a raging hormone my whole life. i don't want to build myself up or sound like a weirdo but i am well endowed for my size and i usually get so hard it feels like i'm about to bust out of my skin down there until this crap.
That is entirely up to you nobody else can make that decision but If I were in your shoes yes get some more HCGenerate, you said you didn't notice much of an effect the first time around but you also stated that you were still using the topical steroids at the same time (THATS WHY).
Topical steroids are still steroids and they are to an extent just as effective as the shit you put in a syringe and stick in your ass. So my advice having been where you have been is grab some HCGenerate and a good AI like needto said and hope for the best. You fuck with your body it takes time for things to turn around.
I just ordered the forma-stanzol spray. again, i just want to know if Clomid or something similar is absolutely necessary. So far I will be taking HCGenerate and Forma-Stanzol. and that's it. and do i start taking it right away? it's been about 6 days since i've put any cream on. I have a bottle of Novadex XT I bought from GNC a long time ago, it doesn't expire until 2012, is that something i could throw in there too? any advice would be greatly appreciated.
doesn't really help. it's not really an ED problem, it's more of not wanting to enough to get my man to stand to attention and my hormones being completely jacked. this didn't happen until i stopped for a month. i kinda wish i wouldn't have at this point and just stayed on it forever
do not take novadex xt, it is crap and will kill your dick....
stick with formastanzol and hcgenerate!
stick with formastanzol and hcgenerate!
I did clomid and everything else in the book but now hearing that it has only been six days since you stopped applying the shit? Your worry may be premature its going to take anyone just about the length they were on cycle to bounce back. I agree with previous posters, fuck the GNC novadex, just a supplement cranked out under a name that sounds like your getting something your not.
Things I have that helped my test production rocket back:
Iron, Zinc, Milk Thistle, Fenugreek, and Tribulus Test. *These are all easily obtained over the counter vitamins and herbs your out probably $45 picking up all of the above*
Along with a reputable test booster such as Unleashed (if its still around been years since I ordered that) or NeedTo's HCGenerate. You also need something to suppress estrogen whether you get your hands on some research chems or a supplement such as FormaStanz its completely up to you and how much dough your willing to dish out.
Things I have that helped my test production rocket back:
Iron, Zinc, Milk Thistle, Fenugreek, and Tribulus Test. *These are all easily obtained over the counter vitamins and herbs your out probably $45 picking up all of the above*
Along with a reputable test booster such as Unleashed (if its still around been years since I ordered that) or NeedTo's HCGenerate. You also need something to suppress estrogen whether you get your hands on some research chems or a supplement such as FormaStanz its completely up to you and how much dough your willing to dish out.
needtogetaas
New member
Like most people have said hcgenerate will bring the sex drive back but I think you need a full pct..
Stop the test gel and start this,.
weeks
1-4 hcgenerate 5 caps every day
1-4 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm.
Little serm, little ai, lot of test boost. KIll that shit my friend and rmember needto loves you.
just like I said bro. If you like you can add 3 caps every day post cycle and unleashed to this.
needtogetaas
New member
Its good to have one of my 2005 peeps back in the house with me... You planning on sticking around a wile bro... I can use help in the aas forums always.. I will hit you with a comp plat
Its good to have one of my 2005 peeps back in the house with me... You planning on sticking around a wile bro... I can use help in the aas forums always.. I will hit you with a comp plat
Would love it. Yeah I'll be around for good I think I really missed everyone... a lot of good times have been had on this board. My last couple of relationships took a toll on me being on the site but thats not going to happen again; there are somethings you just dont compromise on and one of those for me is my gym time. Which EF is a part of because it helps to keep me motivated.
I'm a big fan of the HCGenerate got bloods and sperm test to back it.... Yes sperm numbers lol
Brad.
Brad.
tical
Banned
I'm curious, can you post your lab LH numbers before and after using HCGenerate?
BINGO. I am going to stock up so my next go-round I can pre-load with 10 caps a day as well, but even at 5 caps per day split am/pm my results have been astounding. I am having blood work done right at the end of my cycle so the tested levels will be perfectly indicative of my HCGenerate results!
