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bad news for QV fans....

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Im on the 9th week of my first cycle. The cycle consists of 500mg/week of enanthate and 400mg/week of eq. Both are QV products. Anyway, I had also thrown in some Dbol @ 25mg/day for the first 6 weeks. During the first six weeks (while I was on the dbol), my weight was going up and so was my strength. Things were looking good. Then after the 6 weeks were up, suddenly my strength and weight dropped. At this time, I was wondering when the test would kick in. I hadnt experienced any of the regular test side effects either. So just a week ago I went to a doc and had my test levels checked. To my surprise, they hadnt changed at all since I started the cycle. Now Ive heard that QV fakes are rare. My bottles came in shrink wrapped box which looked perfectly legit. The hologram, fliptop, and labels all looked perfect. I also read a thread on this board a few weeks back about all QV products being fake. So this isnt really looking good....what do you guys think?
 
That doesnt sound good bro.:(
Do you got holograms on both paper box and vial?
What batch numbers are you using?
 
I don't think that all QV products are fake, unless people that have used them on this board are able to obtain great results from using fakes. Many Elite members have reported very good things about QV. Myself for one with QV Equipoise. I know how Equipoise makes me feel and this was Equipoise, without a doubt. Now, I never had it tested or anything, but there was no reason to b/c it did what equipoise is suppose to do...lean muscularity with vascularity and some good strength.

NN
 
rickcorso said:
So just a week ago I went to a doc and had my test levels checked. To my surprise, they hadnt changed at all since I started the cycle. Now Ive heard that QV fakes are rare. My bottles came in shrink wrapped box which looked perfectly legit. The hologram, fliptop, and labels all looked perfect. I also read a thread on this board a few weeks back about all QV products being fake. So this isnt really looking good....what do you guys think?
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I'm confused, you said that you ran the D-bol at 25 mg ed for 6 weeks, and just recently you went to the doctor and you're test levels are the same now as they were before the cycle. So, the D-bol was fake also??????

NN
 
:confused: anything bad about QV deca i got a 50ml vial waiting for me to use it
 
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Nutrient-Nut said:


I'm confused, you said that you ran the D-bol at 25 mg ed for 6 weeks, and just recently you went to the doctor and you're test levels are the same now as they were before the cycle. So, the D-bol was fake also??????

NN
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very good point. there something wrong here.
 
prophet said:
:confused: anything bad about QV deca i got a 50ml vial waiting for me to use it
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I don't think anyone can tell you that. I would use it and find out. There are people here that swear by QV and would get mad at me for airing my negative opinons of it, but my personal experience was negative. That is not to say the stuff may not work for others, however.
 
prophet said:
:confused: anything bad about QV deca i got a 50ml vial waiting for me to use it
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Well, according to Mr. rickcorso, he said that he read a recent post that all QV products are fake. So, I guess your Deca is fake also. Why would QV make fake Test and EQ but produce legit Deca?

I think that this is a bullshit post!

NN
 
6weeks weeks on dbol Now on week nine.....he went to a doc 1 weeks ago......so 2 weeks w/o d-bol on just qv products yielded a no change....My question is what kind of dbol? Freak
 
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Nutrient-Nut said:


I'm confused, you said that you ran the D-bol at 25 mg ed for 6 weeks, and just recently you went to the doctor and you're test levels are the same now as they were before the cycle. So, the D-bol was fake also??????

NN
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this is what I was wondering too. Thats why I posted this thread...maybe someone knows what exactly is going on. The dbol, IMO, was real. It raised my strength, weight, blood pressure, vascularity, etc. It was Leoffer, not QV. As soon as I stopped it, everything went down considerably. I stopped the dbol after week 6. I had my test levels checked at the end of week 8...so two weeks after my last dbol.

Another thing that might be worth mentioning is that about a month after I received my gear, my source suddenly turned into a scammer. At the time I had ordered, he had a decent history and several mods had recommened him. Now all of a sudden, he has stopped business.

As for the batch numbers. The Enanthate is QVE-003 and the EQ is QVB-003.
 
Im using QV equipoise but Im also using 1gram of test enanthate. The enanthate is real for sure cause I bought it myself at the pharmacy but the QV equipoise I got from a friend here in the US but now after all this talk about QV EQ being fake I got sad. Im having very good gains but maybe its only from the enanthate itself. BTW my EQ is QVB 004 and rickorso its QVB 003... I hope neither are fakes
 
Shinobi said:
Im using QV equipoise but Im also using 1gram of test enanthate. The enanthate is real for sure cause I bought it myself at the pharmacy but the QV equipoise I got from a friend here in the US but now after all this talk about QV EQ being fake I got sad. Im having very good gains but maybe its only from the enanthate itself. BTW my EQ is QVB 004 and rickorso its QVB 003... I hope neither are fakes
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Can someone clear something up for me....

By getting my test levels checked, I can only make a judgement on the Enanthate correct? The EQ could definitly be legit. In fact, while on the cycle, my appetite has gone up dramatically and Ive also become a bit more vascular. So maybe its just the test thats bogus...Im not exactly sure whats going on.
 
rickcorso said:


so maybe its just the test thats fake?
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maybe the blood test was incorrect or someone elses....that is very possible... Actually i think the sample was damaged on the way to the lab and the test came back inconclusive and the doctor lied to save his own expenses and said you were fine
 
prophet said:


maybe the blood test was incorrect or someone elses....that is very possible... Actually i think the sample was damaged on the way to the lab and the test came back inconclusive and the doctor lied to save his own expenses and said you were fine
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I wish that were true. However, currently Im at school and my doctor here doesnt have my records from my regular doc at home. Plus, he gave me a printout of my blood work. They tested for alot of other things too besides just my hormones.
 
I gave my buddy 3 vials of the QV EQ, batch QVB 003, and he absolutely loved the shit....I myself haven't used it......interestingly enough the 003 has the batch number printed in the print as the rest of the label....I also have 5 vilas of batch 004 sitting in front of me with the exp date and batch number printed in black, after the original was printed.....I don't think they're kake but that's just my opinion.....
 
rickcorso said:



Can someone clear something up for me....

By getting my test levels checked, I can only make a judgement on the Enanthate correct? The EQ could definitly be legit. In fact, while on the cycle, my appetite has gone up dramatically and Ive also become a bit more vascular. So maybe its just the test thats bogus...Im not exactly sure whats going on.
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my friend is on qv test right now at only 250mgs a week and is making good strenght gains and has acne on his back now so i don't think its fake
 
Hey Rick i just started on the QV 250 lote #003 exp 2004....hasnt kicked in yet but definitely looks legit. Also feels legit as far as how my ass feels. Did your bottle have a hologram? Has anyone used the QVE-003 with good results?
 
QVB 004...10 2004 here. but just started. injected with 250 of sust and it hurts like a bitch today. going by the hurt factor, seems like i hit myself with 450mg's of something real. :) maybe you guys have shitty diets or training? i'll comment more when the 10 weeks is up though.
 
you said your appitite was up...ive done 5-cycles so far and this is my first one running eq, and believe me Ive done over a gram of gear a week before and nothing has mad me as god damn hungry as eq!!!!..I mean Im only doing 400 mg of eq and 400 mg of test. and every 45 minuts or so after I eat a meal Im starving. so its got to be good just give it time to kick in.:vanp:
 
BRONXBOMBER said:
you said your appitite was up...ive done 5-cycles so far and this is my first one running eq, and believe me Ive done over a gram of gear a week before and nothing has mad me as god damn hungry as eq!!!!..I mean Im only doing 400 mg of eq and 400 mg of test. and every 45 minuts or so after I eat a meal Im starving. so its got to be good just give it time to kick in.:vanp:
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how long till the hunger hit you bro after start of first EQ shot??? curious.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
QVB 004...10 2004 here. but just started. injected with 250 of sust and it hurts like a bitch today. going by the hurt factor, seems like i hit myself with 450mg's of something real. :) maybe you guys have shitty diets or training? i'll comment more when the 10 weeks is up though.
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War, please do keep us informed. I like to hear from guys that I know their diet and training is on.
-B
 
bebaumax said:


War, please do keep us informed. I like to hear from guys that I know their diet and training is on.
-B
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yeah, that is all gonna be on par for sure. especially since you know i spent a lot of time and cash putting this cycle together. only bad part is the sust/dbol/adrol/fina etc being thrown in the mix. but i'll look for the hunger...i get lack of appetite constantly...so that will be something i can look for. and vascularity too, i am sensitive to that. i get vascular quickly on gear that promotes that. like i was saying, the hunger and other effects kick in on EQ about what week?
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:

like i was saying, the hunger and other effects kick in on EQ about what week?
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Usually give EQ a solid 2 weeks before you start looking for anything. Usually you'll notice the hunger first, and when it comes, it comes, there's no doubt, man. Yeah, other gear has made me hungry before, but damn, EQ makes me hungry after thanksgiving dinner. Let us know, bro!
-B
 
bebaumax said:


Usually give EQ a solid 2 weeks before you start looking for anything. Usually you'll notice the hunger first, and when it comes, it comes, there's no doubt, man. Yeah, other gear has made me hungry before, but damn, EQ makes me hungry after thanksgiving dinner. Let us know, bro!
-B
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funny thing.....day after first EQ/sust shot, and the day of starting Dbol and higher calorie/higher carbs, i got massive hunger. not sure why....but i took in two servings of phospagen HP and two scoops of PP whey Post w/o (about 75 grams sugar and 40 grams protein) and a serving of twinlab mass fuel 2 hrs later (100 grams maltodextrin and 50 grams slow release protein)....then not soon after (maybe 2 more hours) i ate a big ass turkey sandwich and a mesotech bar and a whey/metrx/flax drink and was still hungry. shit. ate a wendys grilled sandwich and another big turkey sandwich tonight as well as more whey and metrx and flax. something made me hungry today....must have been the change's in gear and food intake. what the hell i'll do when the EQ hits, i don't know. put on a muzzle. lol.
 
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rickcorso said:


this is what I was wondering too. Thats why I posted this thread...maybe someone knows what exactly is going on. The dbol, IMO, was real. It raised my strength, weight, blood pressure, vascularity, etc. It was Leoffer, not QV. As soon as I stopped it, everything went down considerably. I stopped the dbol after week 6. I had my test levels checked at the end of week 8...so two weeks after my last dbol.

Another thing that might be worth mentioning is that about a month after I received my gear, my source suddenly turned into a scammer. At the time I had ordered, he had a decent history and several mods had recommened him. Now all of a sudden, he has stopped business.

As for the batch numbers. The Enanthate is QVE-003 and the EQ is QVB-003.
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You said the dbol was loeffler. Where they whit or pink?
 
Is yours the 50cc bottle? I have QVE-003 exp Oct 04 50cc bottle. I know it's good because my sex drive is up big time and when I used test, my skin gets real oily and I break out a bit on my shoulders. Currenlty using 1250mg a week with 150mg fina ed and 60mg dbol and blowing like never before.
 
someone better call qv,they fucked up on the prop.my dick gets hard from the minute I start taking it until I stop.or maybe I`ll just go see my doc and tell him to check my test levels I want to know if the gear I`m on is any good..this could start a new trend,won`t have to fuck around with independent lab tests any more.we just go to the doc,have him draw a little blood,test,and insurance covers everything.hehehaha,ain`t this some shit.
 
My 50-ml bottles of thei enanthate ARE DEFINITELY REAL!@!!!!!

I love this shit. Feels like good ol' enanthate.

There is usually a drop in water weight (and overall wt.) upon stoppage of d-bol....this seems to be the case with me no matter what I am continuously taking it with.

BMJ
 
My last 2 cycles were QV only. Got unbelievable gains on both using the prop, enth, eq, and deca. There test is as real as can be. Makes me the horniest bastard around
 
I know of a few people who have used QV gear and we all love it. Of course we are all experienced and know what end is up. For anyone not getting good results from QV I suggest that you check your vial and look for anything that looks like a small sealed puncture, where the legit shit could have been extracted and replaced with plain oil. I have never seen this with QV but I have seen this with two bottles of ttoykko deca.:)
 
looks to me like an alarmist post about QV being fake that was bullshit. after the anavar fake situation, all i need is to hear that something in this newest cycle is fake after i went through hell and back to make sure it was all top notch stuff (organon sust, snakes on the thai dbols, best possible vet gear for EQ, etc). one more word about QV being fake and i kick the shit out of the post starter. :)
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
i went through hell and back to make sure it was all top notch stuff (organon sust, snakes on the thai dbols, best possible vet gear for EQ, etc). one more word about QV being fake and i kick the shit out of the post starter. :)
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You think QV EQ is the best EQ out there?
 
Delinquent said:


You think QV EQ is the best EQ out there?
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well not necessarily....it was the best stuff i could get that had a low price tag, and i felt was "clean stuff", and as far as i know its all vet gear right? EQ isn't made by pharmaceutical giants. so it was the "all around best deal for me" shall we say. not everyone can get the absolute best of EVERYTHING. i just get the best i can find for the best price from the most reliable source. but anyway, that being said.....who's do you think is better for my information???
 
That's cool. I'm sure QV is the best bang for the buck but I've always heard Ft Dodge and Genfar are considered superior EQ products but higher in price.
 
Think before you post!

rickcorso,

It would be wise to think before you post something like this claiming that all of a particular brand of gear is fake. We don't need to be wasting any time on bullshit post like this. Hell, I could have been eating some more protein and reading my FLEX or RX Muscle at the time. If you got fake stuff, that's too bad, you must not have a very good source. Find someone that you can trust. Don't come out on this board and claim that all of that brand, QV in this case, is FAKE. That's the last thing an Elite member wants to worry about after he's spent a large chunk of $ on the gear.

Wise up!

NN
 
Delinquent said:
That's cool. I'm sure QV is the best bang for the buck but I've always heard Ft Dodge and Genfar are considered superior EQ products but higher in price.
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oh, i didn't even know that. learn something everyday. i am not a vet gear guy.....but EQ sounds like something i'd like. so i picked it up. not familiar with all the brands TBH....and i had to buy two bottles (probably should have got three) so the hell with expensive horsie gear. :D
 
Rickcorso, is there anyway that you could post your before and after test results (preferebly scanned) and maybe take a pic of the QV products? Not that I'm calling you a liar but most are very skeptical when making such bold claims without any hard evidence. (Note: I've never used Mexi-gear nor want to so I could care less but this is for all the doubters and not negatively directed toward you)
 
Delinquent said:
(Note: I've never used Mexi-gear nor want to so I could care less but this is for all the doubters and not negatively directed toward you)
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but why not? they got TWO...count them TWO...pretty holograms on them! and shrinkwrapped for our protection! just as good as pharm gear! lol. :D
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:


but why not? they got TWO...count them TWO...pretty holograms on them! and shrinkwrapped for our protection! just as good as pharm gear! lol. :D
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Do shiny things (like holograms) often distract you, bro? Do you find yourself staring at them for hours on end? You didn't eat the celophane wrapper, did you?
-B
 
Re: Think before you post!

Nutrient-Nut said:
rickcorso,

It would be wise to think before you post something like this claiming that all of a particular brand of gear is fake. We don't need to be wasting any time on bullshit post like this. Hell, I could have been eating some more protein and reading my FLEX or RX Muscle at the time. If you got fake stuff, that's too bad, you must not have a very good source. Find someone that you can trust. Don't come out on this board and claim that all of that brand, QV in this case, is FAKE. That's the last thing an Elite member wants to worry about after he's spent a large chunk of $ on the gear.

Wise up!

NN
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I havent claimed anything. I just posted my results to see if someone knew what was the problem. I simply stated that I read a thread awhile back on this board which did claim that all QV products were fake. Im not saying that they are. In fact, I said that the EQ I bought was most likely real...it was just the enanthate that I was worried about.
 
I am on a fina/QV prop cycle now....all I can say is that I am very immpressed with thier prop....I have not used any of there other stuff
 
If we all (everyone who posted on this thread) went over to anasci.com and donated $10 each we could clear it up.
 
bebaumax said:


Do shiny things (like holograms) often distract you, bro? Do you find yourself staring at them for hours on end? You didn't eat the celophane wrapper, did you?
-B
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holograms are purdy....:p....i keep the boxes and vials around because i love to look at them. but i threw out the celophane. lol. that didn't impress me as much. :D
 
nuh_mizer said:
If we all (everyone who posted on this thread) went over to anasci.com and donated $10 each we could clear it up.
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i'm always game for pitching in for testing. hey i donated $50 worth of fake 50mg anavar for testing. lol. :D :D
 
I just started a QV Prop only cycle last Monday & I can already feel better pumps,strenth & more sex drive.I love Prop cause it kicks in so fast.

To The guy who started this post you mentioned that the source who sold it to you went scammer weeks after you got it.Well that may very well be the reason its fake if it really is.

You guys have to remember that sometimes this board is like one big giant gossip sewing circle & when a few people start threads like this then everyone freaks out & jumps to conclusions.
 
scott825 said:


You guys have to remember that sometimes this board is like one big giant gossip sewing circle & when a few people start threads like this then everyone freaks out & jumps to conclusions.
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kinda like the group of broads next door to my work over here at the hair and nail salon. :D :D :D
 
The QV gear I have used has always been very high quality. I would put it up against nearly any "euro gear" which has a higher propensity for being faked anyway. At any rate, nearly their entire line is going to be tested at cuttingedgemuscle so I guess we will know for sure soon.
 
Jguns said:
The QV gear I have used has always been very high quality. I would put it up against nearly any "euro gear" which has a higher propensity for being faked anyway. At any rate, nearly their entire line is going to be tested at cuttingedgemuscle so I guess we will know for sure soon.
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LOL ! Reminds me of all the Girls at the block of bars I work at.I dont even bother fucking around with any of them anymore.

scott825
 
LOL ! Reminds me of all the Girls at the block of bars I work at.I dont even bother fucking around with any of them anymore.
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What is that supposed to mean? At any rate, you are entitled to your own comments I suppose.
 
Deca 300 and T250

I've used QV's T250 and Deca 300 and both seemed to be legit products. It hurt like a bitch sometimes injecting the T250, did anyone else have that problem?
 
a bud of mine has gained 16 pounds from 6 weeks of QV enanthate.. I have gained 7 pounds and dropped 2% bf with QV enanthate/fina, in my 5th week.. If my QV enanthate is fake, I will kiss everybody's ass on this board in public on national television.
 
Tired of idiots bashing on QV stuff man...I'm down if you guys ever want to get stuff tested...I'll pitch in whatever...
 
No one is gonna tell me that QV products are all fake. I am currently using 500mgs of eth, 200 of cyp, and 600 mgs of deca. THis cycle kicks ass and is the best Ive ever had. Also a good friend of mine used there prop and loved it.
 
Im using 600mg of QV EQ per week plus 1gr of test enanthate...Im getting VERY vascular so Im assuming is from the EQ not from test enanthate so the QV EQ its real :)
 
BRONXBOMBER said:
IM SOOO HUNGRY I MIGHT EAT MY KEYBORAD...........:chomp:
QV ROCKS!!!!!!!
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I FEEL THE SAME :)
A PEANUT BUTTER JAR PER DAY :)
WHO CARES EVERYTHING IS A MOMENT :)
In a week I will start a cutting cycle and its SO HARD to switch :( but Im going to do slowly like Im going to subtract 250cals every week till I reach 3000
 
people use steriods different ways, some correct some not. right away if somebody does not see gains its fake. how one works out and eats is just as important as taking gear and folks forget this. you can take all the d bol in the world but my personal experience is one that if I don't take in the calories i will not see shit. i have many friends who take qv and do great on it and personally when i was on i swear by the stuff. i have friends who have taken there products recently and are growing everyday but they also eat and train as i direct them and grow. qv has no fakes as of yet and take this as you want but if they did i would know. even though i am removed from the gear if fakes where around i would find out.
 
Bros, go over to anasci.com and donate. They are in the process of having the entire QV line tested. There is no min amt. but you do have to donate to see the results. They are not done yet, but as I mentioned are in the process.
 
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