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Back Pumps vs. Kidney Pain

lifthard2005

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bros, how do you tell the difference?

my urine is a little yellow, but nothing like orange or a tint of red. when I walk I have major pumps, at least thats what it feels like, in my spinal erectors. Sometimes I almost fall if I do not sit down.

Here is where it gets confusing. If I am laying down, watching television, I get the same pains/pumps too. But not as bad. I honestly have cut the dbol from my cycle, lowered my EQ and stopped NPP as well.

Cycle prior to pains/pumps:
test @ 1200mg/wk
eq @ 1200mg/wk
npp @ 700mg/wk
dbol @ 60mg ed

Now it is:
Test @ 1200mg/wk
EQ @ 800mg/wk

so back to my question of how to tell if it is kidney pains, or back pumps (spinal erectors engorged with blood)???? Doing the dishes are even impossible.

Didnt lift the last 2 days and will ba taking the next 3-4 off as well to make sure i am ok.
 
supplement taurine + potassium and drink PLENTY of water.

probably just pumps.. shit, i get 'em just from my HRT dose
 
dbol does that to me sooo fucking bad, at even 15mg day!!!!! no shit, tried it at least 3-4 times. my jaw would get pumps in it when I was eating, couldn't walk at times cause of the low back pump. if you're worried about the kidneys, get em checked. but for me, if the pain was just in my lower back,erectors, I wouldn't be as worried if it was more to the sides.
 
babbabuee said:
dbol does that to me sooo fucking bad, at even 15mg day!!!!! no shit, tried it at least 3-4 times. my jaw would get pumps in it when I was eating, couldn't walk at times cause of the low back pump. if you're worried about the kidneys, get em checked. but for me, if the pain was just in my lower back,erectors, I wouldn't be as worried if it was more to the sides.


wow, same shit here man. i was eating a polish sausage sand yesterday and the bread was so thick, my jaw honestly fucking killed me so bad from chewing.

im taking a break for a few days, i stopped the dbol already to try and see what exactly is giving me such pain.....i got these same painful pumps when i used tren e months and months ago
 
Do not worry buddy those are muscle pumps. They can be brutal but that is part of taking dbol anadrol and other types of gear. If your kidneys were bad you would be pissing all the time as well as be sick.



lifthard2005 said:
bros, how do you tell the difference?

my urine is a little yellow, but nothing like orange or a tint of red. when I walk I have major pumps, at least thats what it feels like, in my spinal erectors. Sometimes I almost fall if I do not sit down.

Here is where it gets confusing. If I am laying down, watching television, I get the same pains/pumps too. But not as bad. I honestly have cut the dbol from my cycle, lowered my EQ and stopped NPP as well.

Cycle prior to pains/pumps:
test @ 1200mg/wk
eq @ 1200mg/wk
npp @ 700mg/wk
dbol @ 60mg ed

Now it is:
Test @ 1200mg/wk
EQ @ 800mg/wk

so back to my question of how to tell if it is kidney pains, or back pumps (spinal erectors engorged with blood)???? Doing the dishes are even impossible.

Didnt lift the last 2 days and will ba taking the next 3-4 off as well to make sure i am ok.
 
lifthard2005 said:
wow, same shit here man. i was eating a polish sausage sand yesterday and the bread was so thick, my jaw honestly fucking killed me so bad from chewing.

im taking a break for a few days, i stopped the dbol already to try and see what exactly is giving me such pain.....i got these same painful pumps when i used tren e months and months ago
ya i got jaw pumps from dbol to but no back pumps.
 
im on 60mg of dbol a day. im on 1100mg of potassium,500mg of magnesium,1000mg of calcium, and 1.5 gallons of water. Day 6 and still no back pumps.
 
lesarin,
i have to be honest, i don't think i drink enough water, that probably contributed to my back pumps. and may not have been taking enough potassium, unless there's 1100mg in two multi Vitamins.

lifthard - make sure you drink enough water.
 
lifthard2005 said:
bros, how do you tell the difference?

my urine is a little yellow, but nothing like orange or a tint of red. when I walk I have major pumps, at least thats what it feels like, in my spinal erectors. Sometimes I almost fall if I do not sit down.

Here is where it gets confusing. If I am laying down, watching television, I get the same pains/pumps too. But not as bad. I honestly have cut the dbol from my cycle, lowered my EQ and stopped NPP as well.

Cycle prior to pains/pumps:
test @ 1200mg/wk
eq @ 1200mg/wk
npp @ 700mg/wk
dbol @ 60mg ed

Now it is:
Test @ 1200mg/wk
EQ @ 800mg/wk

so back to my question of how to tell if it is kidney pains, or back pumps (spinal erectors engorged with blood)???? Doing the dishes are even impossible.

Didnt lift the last 2 days and will ba taking the next 3-4 off as well to make sure i am ok.


Its most likely back pump but with that amount of gear its highly possible to be your kidneys. Lay flat on your back on the floor and put your feet over you head.....if the pains lessens than its most likely muscle tension in the lower back due to increased pump/blood flow
 
lifthard2005 said:
bros, how do you tell the difference?

my urine is a little yellow, but nothing like orange or a tint of red. when I walk I have major pumps, at least thats what it feels like, in my spinal erectors. Sometimes I almost fall if I do not sit down.

Here is where it gets confusing. If I am laying down, watching television, I get the same pains/pumps too. But not as bad. I honestly have cut the dbol from my cycle, lowered my EQ and stopped NPP as well.

Cycle prior to pains/pumps:
test @ 1200mg/wk
eq @ 1200mg/wk
npp @ 700mg/wk
dbol @ 60mg ed

Now it is:
Test @ 1200mg/wk
EQ @ 800mg/wk

so back to my question of how to tell if it is kidney pains, or back pumps (spinal erectors engorged with blood)???? Doing the dishes are even impossible.

Didnt lift the last 2 days and will ba taking the next 3-4 off as well to make sure i am ok.

if your urine isn't too dark and isnt cloudy and there's no blood it sounds like you're ok
 
lifthard2005 said:
im on cycle 12. I usually run 4-6 weekers, hence why so many cycles, and have ran about 3-4 looong cycles of between 10wks-20wks.

do u prefer the shorter cycles or the longer ones?
 
The Rage said:
do u prefer the shorter cycles or the longer ones?


well it depends, i love eq and it must be ran long time. I am goingto run it for 20 weeks at 800mg/wk. then drop to 600mg/wk all through summer.

i like short ones better i guess. my gear is all in EO so frequent injections are a synch. the best i think are

prop/npp/dbol

prop/tren/winstrol

long cycles i like:
test e/eq/tren e

sustanon/npp/anadrol
 
these pumps are usually from the psoas muscle. in addition to supplements like mg and k, and more water, try to work on stretches / relaxation routines for the psoas
 
Could be both, pain in kidneys and back pump, in other words the back pumps are from kidney pain.

you cut your d-bol, so, I assume this will go away.
 
lifthard2005 said:
bros, how do you tell the difference?

my urine is a little yellow, but nothing like orange or a tint of red. when I walk I have major pumps, at least thats what it feels like, in my spinal erectors. Sometimes I almost fall if I do not sit down.

Here is where it gets confusing. If I am laying down, watching television, I get the same pains/pumps too. But not as bad. I honestly have cut the dbol from my cycle, lowered my EQ and stopped NPP as well.

Cycle prior to pains/pumps:
test @ 1200mg/wk
eq @ 1200mg/wk
npp @ 700mg/wk
dbol @ 60mg ed

Now it is:
Test @ 1200mg/wk
EQ @ 800mg/wk

so back to my question of how to tell if it is kidney pains, or back pumps (spinal erectors engorged with blood)???? Doing the dishes are even impossible.

Didnt lift the last 2 days and will ba taking the next 3-4 off as well to make sure i am ok.

Kidney pains are on your back right next to your side back pumps well its where your back muscles are. I know thats probably not the best directions but they are close enough to your side to differentiate them (your kidneys) from that of your back muscles.
 
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