Back on Tren for first time in a few years... Predicament?

[Mr. Chicago]

Hey broseph's, I usually wouldn't ask such a hypothetical open to interpretation type question so soon, but this is stemming from the fact I am utilizing a new ugl and need some input bc I may be over thinking things.

I am 28 years old
6' 3"
a lil over 235 lbs
and < 12% BF at the moment.

So basically I had started my cycle with test E only, about 600mgs week. I tapered back to about 400mgs the last couple weeks and then went almost a week without dosing in preparation for starting tren A. I then began 75mgs Tren A and 75mgs Test E EOD. Last time I ran Tren A the sides weren't crazy bad and it didn't kick in immediately either but the things I've heard as of late from others about tren are that if you're not sweating balls at night and getting ripped by week 2 it's bunk, is there any truth to this? So the test and tren I have are from the same lab and the last time I dosed test before this new vial was almost 3 weeks ago now. If the test was bunk at least I'd be able to tell bc I would be losing strength and hard ons would have diminished by now correct? I could say this though, I've noticed fuller shoulders, chest, and my abs are definitely popping a bit more. I've been dieting the last couple weeks and am down about 5 lbs. but my strength has gone up slightly. Another concern is I'm a sweater guys, like I fucking SWEAT, during the summer without air just sitting around I'll literally sweat through tshirts, should I be concerned no night sweats and I'll be 7 shots in tomorrow or am I possibly just lucky thus far? I've heard of week 3 tren kicking in hard but is that an over estimate? Like I said I hated to ask this without giving it another week or so but what are your opinions? Any input is appreciated thanks!

 

[Race121]

Is your Test dose lower than what you usually do with Tren? Not sweating your ass off or getting "ripped" going in to week 2 is a load of BS in determining whether it's good gear or not. Not that I doubt you, but anybody that told me something that ridiculous would be on my disregard list.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Haha yeah that's all I keep telling myself, like I know it's tren A and powerful shit but I gotta be patient. I loved it last time I ran it but it was quite a few years back so I can't remember exactly how I felt, but just the way I've heard people talk about it like it's going to knock you on your ass first few shots, strength through the roof and muscles popping week 2 but I figured I'd give it a couple more weeks, then if my strength starts to diminish I'll know. Yeah I would consider this a lil more on the high trt level for me, think I remember running test at least twice as much last time. Another thing is there's like no PIP at all, isn't that also pretty rare for tren?

 

[Race121]

I pin Tren A with a slin pin in smaller muscles and get a little bit of PIP if I press on the area. But, just the other day I ended up shooting my Tren w/a 1 inch 25g (quad) and it felt like a mini-prop shot the next day. I'm guessing you're mixing since you're pinning Test E EOD. If that's the case that may be minimizing the PIP.

I'm a believer in the TRT Test dose w/Tren. It has definitely minimized sides for me. That may be what you're experiencing. It's still early on in your cycle, Tren wise, too.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Thanks for your input bro, I'll definitely update this in another week let you know how I'm feeling then.

 

[bonacris]

Tren never gave me pip. Maybe my 1st shot but nothing I can remember to bad.. give it a little bit longer. Your a big dude and have been doing this a while.. If nothing in a week then I could be under dosed

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[Mr.Spence]

Bro, I heard the same thing like you... A lot of people say that they feel Tren A on the first shot, I'll about to do my 4th pin and no night sweat, no incredible strength, no nothing, yet... I know the gear is good, got it from a reliable source... I think it will take a little more time...


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[Mr. Chicago]

Haha thanks guys, yeah I'm going to give it another week or two and keep a close eye on things bc I'm like 95% sure it's legit. I got my before pics ready so if everything goes as planned and the shit is straight I'll be posting some afters at the end, stay tuned!

 

[Mkingo]

Bro I had the same concerns with my first run of tren last year. Everyone kept talking about how it would kick ur ass, and how the sides were so bad etc. I fully expected it to come on REALLY fast.

I started at 50mg eod, and test at 200mg per week. As I felt nothing was happening, by week 4 I had increased the dose to 100mg eod. It took a bit of time to hit me, but it did.

I never got the horror sides. Just acne and night sweats. The positives kinda crept up on me. Libido was insane. Strength gains just kept coming. Mentally, nothing could touch me. Shit that would normally stress me just slide right off. I would not get mad unless I wanted to.

Honestly not what I expected and not what all the forum types had me expecting. I was fully prepared for a bit of a horror show, and I totally was the opposite. Fucking loved it!

My advice is don't get preoccupied with expectations based on other peoples posts. That, and be patient. If ur dosing eod and ur 7 shots in, then it's only 2 weeks so far.

 

[Race121]

Well, what we do has a high degree of variability from person to person. I think sometimes we get to expecting the same thing from other peoples experience. I remember reading all the Tren horror stories back when I started (10 yrs ago) and never touched the stuff til last year.

To me, it seems like I'm not hearing as many real bad Tren experiences like I used to. This is just opinion but I attribute that to the trending toward lower Test doses and moderate Tren. You don't see as many guys running big Test and 700mg Tren.

Along with that, expectations of
extreme strength gains and radical
composition changes probably need to
be tempered a bit. Yes, it's potent stuff
but 200-300mg is the low end dosing
wise. And, Chicago, you're pretty damn
big to begin with. Give it a little more
time w/o looking for extreme sides or
being able to slap a couple extra 45's
on the bar come chest day, ha!

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Haha so true guys, thanks again for the input everyone, and I think you're right about the moderate doses. I'm sure if I had opted to go 50 ED or something it could be a bit different by now but I saw no need, and you know how things are I was probably mostly reading experiences of 20yr olds that were no where near their plateau talking about strength and size gains from week 1 haha God it makes so much sense now! I'm going to keep it slow and steady like I have and come a couple weeks from now BOOM! Well, hopefully at least haha but I'll definitely update this regardless let y'all know how things are going.

 

[Mr.Spence]

Mr.Chicago, how's your cycle going??? Are you starting to see the improvements or any sides ???


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