Back-end of cycle...

[JBEXT81]

Hey E.F.

I have read alot of people doing a back end oral on some cycles. What would be a good one for my cycle and why????

Dbol: 30mg/day 1-4 wk
Test C: 400 1-10 wk
Deca: 200 1-8 wk
HCG 200iu @ 2-3x a wk: wk 3-10

PCT:
HCGenerate, Unleashed Post Cycle Combo, have nolva/clomid just in case

Ive seen alot of the beastdrol, i'm just looking for mass.

Stats:
29 yr., 206 lbs. @ 6 ft. w/ 10-12% BF
Caolries 3200-3500 at a 50/30/20 split

Previous cycles:
Sust 250 @ 2 cc's/wk for 10 weeks

Thanks

 

[moya]

winstrol
it has great synergy with nandrolones... gives great strenth gains imo (and the deca will keep your joints lubed)... will give you a drier finishing look to your cycle...
i would never run winny without deca because it dries my joints out bad... but with your cycle i think you would love it...
my next winter bulk in february will be test deca mast winn...
edit: try 25mg ed... you WILL feel it

 

[JBEXT81]

if my goal is mass - isn't the winny counter-productive to gaining??? I'm gonna my first calories restricted cutting cycle next summer and will be adding winny (still have lots of research to do on that). IF i wanna try it - how would i use it other than 25/day - like weeks/dosing time?

 

[moya]

all steriods can be used for bulking or cutting... what decided between the two is your diet, more than the drug... you will not blow up on winstrol, but you can gain some lean muscle...
you COULD run it higher if you wanted... but i noticed your other aas dosages were on the conservative side... i wouldnt go over 50mg ed for your first try with it, and you could probably do fairly well with that dose...
winny is best dosed 2x per day, its half life is longer than dbol, i believe it is right around 12hrs... if you get 25mg tabs and opt for 25/day you can split the tabs (or empty capsules and split the powder in them)... some get 50mg tabs and those would be harder to split into 12.5 doses... so it realy depends on what you have to work with...
it will help you shed a little water at the end, and you will get a better look at your physique that way...
or you could just run the dbol again if you liked that... you will get more size, but likely most will be water...

 

[EZ_E]

Hey E.F.

I have read alot of people doing a back end oral on some cycles. What would be a good one for my cycle and why????

Dbol: 30mg/day 1-4 wk
Test C: 400 1-10 wk
Deca: 200 1-8 wk
HCG 200iu @ 2-3x a wk: wk 3-10

PCT:
HCGenerate, Unleashed Post Cycle Combo, have nolva/clomid just in case

Ive seen alot of the beastdrol, i'm just looking for mass.

Stats:
29 yr., 206 lbs. @ 6 ft. w/ 10-12% BF
Caolries 3200-3500 at a 50/30/20 split

Previous cycles:
Sust 250 @ 2 cc's/wk for 10 weeks

Thanks

Tried and true cycle, not need to add anything...

If you looking only for mass you need to up your calories from 3500...

~EZ

 

[JBEXT81]

oh yea calories will go up!!! I'm at 3200-3500 cal. and its about maintaince level right now

 

[EZ_E]

oh yea calories will go up!!! I'm at 3200-3500 cal. and its about maintaince level right now

That's what I'm talkin' aboutttttt....

What's your planned diet gonna be?

~EZ

 

[JBEXT81]

not sure i know it'll be 6-7 meals a day. i found a site that gave diets that increased +250 calories a week but had a lot of protien shakes. I prefer real food over shakes. i might try to do a 60/25/15 split -- right now im at 50/30/20. Any good diet generators where i can just punch in my desired breakdown and it spits out a diet????

i currently use the "my plate" feature on livestrong to track it all

 

[EZ_E]

not sure i know it'll be 6-7 meals a day. i found a site that gave diets that increased +250 calories a week but had a lot of protien shakes. I prefer real food over shakes. i might try to do a 60/25/15 split -- right now im at 50/30/20. Any good diet generators where i can just punch in my desired breakdown and it spits out a diet????

i currently use the "my plate" feature on livestrong to track it all

Exactly, if I see one more post that says "I drink 4 shakes a day but don't gain weight" I'm gonna go off

I'll admit I'm not the best expert on a bulking diet but a few things you should have in the rotation:

Red meat
Extra carbs (for the deca)
Milk

~EZ

 

[digit0x]

Tbol or Var IMO I'm gonna do this maybe in Feb. Tbol will work well with your test and give some drier harder gains that dbol.