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I got some PM's asking for this article. No name calling or violations of TOS please. I posted this last week and didnt have time to check back and I see it was deleted because this was turned into an insult thread. Let's keep it civalized.


Muslims have 'right
to kill 4 million'
Al-Qaida says Islam requires 'fair exchange' for U.S. 'oppression'

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Posted: June 12, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

Muslims have the right to kill 4 million Americans – including 2 million children – based on Islamic teachings, according to an article attributed to an al-Qaida spokesman.

"We have not reached parity with them," wrote Suleiman Abu Gheith, who contended that the U.S. has killed millions of Muslims around the world in places such as Iraq, the Palestinian territories, Sudan, the Philippines and Afghanistan.

"Furthermore, it is our right to fight them with chemical and biological weapons, so as to afflict them with the fatal maladies that have afflicted the Muslims because of the [Americans'] chemical and biological weapons," Abu Gheith wrote on the Center for Islamic Research and Studies' website, which reportedly is linked to al-Qaida.

He warned that "America must prepare itself; it must go on maximum alert; ... because, Allah willing, the blow will come from where they least expect it. …"

The article was translated into English by the Middle East Media Research Institute, an independent, non-profit organization that analyzes Mideast media.

Abu Gheith found justification for killing Americans in the Islamic holy book, the Koran, in which "Allah said, 'He who attacked you, attack him as he attacked you,' … ."

"The Americans have still not tasted from our hands what we have tasted from theirs," Abu Gheith wrote. "The [number] killed in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were no more than fair exchange for the ones killed in the Al-'Amiriya shelter in Iraq, and are but a tiny part of the exchange for those killed in Palestine, Somalia, Sudan, the Philippines, Bosnia, Kashmir, Chechnya, and Afghanistan."

Abu Gheith claims that more than 1.2 million Muslims have been killed in Iraq "due to the American bombings and siege." This assertion likely is based largely on charges that U.S. economic sanctions against dictator Saddam Hussein's policies – including his build-up of weapons of mass destruction – are directly responsible for the deaths of Iraqis who lack food and medical care.

The al-Qaida spokesman declared "America is the reason for all oppression, injustice, licentiousness, or suppression that is the Muslims' lot. It stands behind all the disasters that were caused and are still being caused to the Muslims; it is immersed in the blood of Muslims and cannot hide this."

Abu Gheith wondered how a Muslim can accept humiliation and inferiority "when he knows that the [divine] rule is that the entire earth must be subject to the religion of Allah – not to the East, not to the West – to no ideology and to no path except for the path of Allah?"

He castigated the United States as the "head of heresy in our modern world" with an "infidel democratic regime that is based upon separation of religion and state and on ruling the people by the people via legislating laws that contradict the way of Allah and permit what Allah has prohibited."

According to Abu Gheith the U.S. system "compels the other countries to act in accordance with the same laws in the same ways ... and punishes any country [that rebels against these laws] by besieging it, and then by boycotting it."

By doing these things, he said, the United States "seeks to impose on the world a religion that is not Allah's ... ."
 
Give me the reader's digest version if you will. Too long and my time is precious....
 
Because a bunch of fucking ignorant anti-Semites turned it into an "I don't give a shit what the post says, I'm gonna draw my own conclusions and state them as facts" thread.

Point was-

This was a truly excellent post which shows (in the words of Al-Qaida members themselves) that Al-Qaida hates the USA not because of our support of Israel but rather because of our support of democracy and our way of life, which is the antithesis of their's.
"America is the reason for all oppression, injustice, licentiousness, or suppression that is the Muslims' lot. It stands behind all the disasters that were caused and are still being caused to the Muslims; it is immersed in the blood of Muslims and cannot hide this."


The quote primarily STATES that they hold the US responsible for all Muslim deaths (primarily in Iraq) and, according to their interpretation of the Koran ('an eye for an eye'), they still owe us about 3.99 Million American deaths.

Nowhere in that article is Israel or the Jews even alluded to. Ooops! How can we turn this into a bash Israel thread? Let's wait for ImSoStooopid and Strongman20 to wake up from their naps for the answer.
 
Sure, if that means banning dumb fucks who give people grey karma with messages like "Shut the fuck up, you stooopid kike":mad:
 
The_Mexican said:
babydoc, what's with all the bitterness? Are you jewish or something?
Actually, I'm Armenian so I know what it's like to have some stinking wanna-be Arabs try to exterminate your entire race.
 
I agree that we are going to one day be responsible for destroying the Islamic religion. The extremist leaders know this and this is why they hate the West and everything it stands for.
How would you feel if you knew that one day your culture with very high levels of discipline was going to be non existent in the not so far future? They see the West as a bad influence & a threat to their primitive lifestyle.
I realized this the other day talking to a friend of mine who is Muslim. Her dad has no beef with us personally, but he thinks our parents lack the strictness he has over his 20yr old daughter. Where he was from things were much different and he was raised in a strict household. While here he feels he has trouble controlling his daughter because she wants to hang out with her friends who like going to clubs and stay out past 11pm on weekends.
The leaders of Islam see this on a much larger scale. Many of their rules or sacraments do not exist here and to an extent the same way of thinking is spreading to their countries. They feel as if as long as this continues, they will one day loose their control. Do you really think women in those countries want to hang out in that desert hear covered from head to toe unlike their sig. others? If they get a chance to see the latest Brittany spears or Christina half naked dont you think this starts to make them question their rule system there? In some parts it's mandatory that women stay covered. I had a teacher who went there to live for a semester. Even though she wasn't Muslim she was required to stay covered at all times. Imagine if people started to have the freedom to live the way they wanted? This idea of freedom could get blown out of proportion and I guess the only was to stop it is to blame the US.
 
VicTusDeuS said:
I realized this the other day talking to a friend of mine who is Muslim. Her dad has no beef with us personally, but he thinks our parents lack the strictness he has over his 20yr old daughter. Where he was from things were much different and he was raised in a strict household. While here he feels he has trouble controlling his daughter because she wants to hang out with her friends who like going to clubs and stay out past 11pm on weekends.
You could say the same thing about just about any second or third generation American. "I remember back when I was a kid..." And yes, we're frustrated and more, but we are educated enough to recognize that 1) that is the nature of evolution and progress, and 2) we are allowed to vote and our actions affect and mold what will happen.

The Muslims you refer to only want no change, no progress, and no further evolution of man. If that means nuking the rest of the world back into the same stone age in which most of the Muslim world currently resides, all the better for them. The Muslim religion doesn't need to be destroyed; it needs to learn to evolve to suit the times.

As man continues to evolve and discovers that there are scientific, logical explanations for things that don't require the invocation of a greater being ("God"), so will organized religion cease to exist.
 
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