Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I was just reading about our starting center (Donald Little) on UC's basketball team being arrested yesterday for assulting & torturing his roommate. He supposedly taped this guy to a chair in their apt, hit him in the face with a weight bar, burned him with cigarettes & a heated coat hanger & stabbed him in the leg. Nice guy, huh? I don't know where Huggins finds these guys. He should have taken the WV job when he had the chance. Now he has to deal with this shit again. This same guy had an assault charge filed against him last year too. Somehow he got out of that one. Don't think it'll work this time. Can you say "thug"???
B-ball player arrested for torturing roommate
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Raina said:
I agree...
Besides, random beatings should be recognized but rewarded.
Beating people keeps them on their toes and keeps them from taking there perpetual "non bleeding" state for granted.
Plus it is fun to beat people.. Sometimes they squeal like pigs and you can make them do really funny and humiliating things to get you to stop.
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dballer
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he should have took the beating... waited till the roomate left.. then got a gun.. and when the basketfag player got home.. held a gun to his head for 6 hours. Then shot him in the face.
SONNY SIXKILLER
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You mean you can be beat for free? It usually costs me $50 bucks downtown to get tied up and beaten.
it's all about the Benjamin's
The Big Guy supposedly was missing $2500. I'm assuming that he thought his roommate had taken it. According to the story in the paper he had a couple of friends help him work this guy over. After they were finished he told his friends to "off" this guy & dump his body in Columbus. If convicted he could get up to 20 yrs. It seems like someone on that b-ball team gets arrested for something every year but it's usually not this serious. Shit, these guys got the world in the palm of their hand if they play their cards right but they just can't stay out of trouble. I will say this though...if I was out $2500, I'd probably be looking for some revenge too.
The Big Guy supposedly was missing $2500. I'm assuming that he thought his roommate had taken it. According to the story in the paper he had a couple of friends help him work this guy over. After they were finished he told his friends to "off" this guy & dump his body in Columbus. If convicted he could get up to 20 yrs. It seems like someone on that b-ball team gets arrested for something every year but it's usually not this serious. Shit, these guys got the world in the palm of their hand if they play their cards right but they just can't stay out of trouble. I will say this though...if I was out $2500, I'd probably be looking for some revenge too.
Natymike said:
Kenyon Martin who, Left Cincy early... signed for 67 million I believe..
That is a slight chunk mre than a couple of hundred thousand.
The guys that are leaving early and getting drafted are making FAR more on average then the league minimum..
Being EXTREMELY conseravtive... I will play along with you and say 1 million a year..
So they make 2.4 millin by your logic, with interest and investments we will call it a conserative 3 million..
That is more than you or I will make in that time and I am fairly sure that there will be plenty of willing universities around to help them in their academic endeavors in 2.4 years.
Natymike
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Kenyon Martin is a superstar and is not a regular example. He was also the college player of the year.
An estimated 40 percent of the players are earning the league's minimum salary of $247,000 per year.
So unless you are really really good, like Kenyon Martin, the NBA is a temporary source of income, all the more reason to stay and get a degree.
An estimated 40 percent of the players are earning the league's minimum salary of $247,000 per year.
So unless you are really really good, like Kenyon Martin, the NBA is a temporary source of income, all the more reason to stay and get a degree.
Natymike said:
Although I already stated this.......
The guys leaving early GENERALLY arent making league minimum... They are leaving early because they will be high draft picks...
They are not making the leage mimimum..
Even with your flawed logic in place though..... USING THE EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE numbers that you provide...
Unless they can make 500+ K in the next 2.4 years... It is still more feasible to enter the draft, maek the money and go back..
If you would like me to site the examples I can ASSURE you that the contracts the cincy players are signing for are 5 million + on average..
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addickt said:
I guess the people who are qualified for NBA are very seldom. My chances of getting rich with studying are much better.
And the really rich guys who studied ( CEOs and that kind) probably make still more than a NBA player.
Natymike
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I'm just trying to say that getting an education is not overrated when you are putting all your eggs in one basket and shooting for the NBA.
Also, there are other reasons for DOT's statement. Just because they don't graduate a player doesn't mean that they all get drafted instead of graduating.
The whole point of my reasoning was to explain that I, unlike you, are not going to sit in self pity because "I'm reading Elite Fitness, with my degree and talking about how they dont graduate players"
On a side note, Kenyon martin DID graduate the University of Cincinatt so I'm not sure where that argument came from.
Also, there are other reasons for DOT's statement. Just because they don't graduate a player doesn't mean that they all get drafted instead of graduating.
The whole point of my reasoning was to explain that I, unlike you, are not going to sit in self pity because "I'm reading Elite Fitness, with my degree and talking about how they dont graduate players"
On a side note, Kenyon martin DID graduate the University of Cincinatt so I'm not sure where that argument came from.
Norman Bates said:
The latter of your comments is simply untrue.....
The former is true if applyiing it to ALL of society... But if applying it to the REAL group we are discussing ( University of Cincinnati BKB players who have declared themselves eligible for nba draft early) it is a landslide both economically as well as logically..
Do you guys not understand that SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO ENROLL IN SCHOOL AFTER THEIR TENURE IN THE NBA THEY CAN?
They dont have to run around for all eternity like the fucking Scarlet Letter of shame...
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dballer
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How many of them can read or balance a check book???
I see them on TV sometimes acting like caged animals.. fuckin Dennis Rodman... if he was not such a side show what could he do?? He is a mental midget.
fuck that.. I would rather not be rich and classed with those pieces of shit.
I see them on TV sometimes acting like caged animals.. fuckin Dennis Rodman... if he was not such a side show what could he do?? He is a mental midget.
fuck that.. I would rather not be rich and classed with those pieces of shit.
addickt said:
Bro,
You;re using extreme examples to bolster an argument that you know nothing about. Nothing.
I playde major college basketball..some ESPN games and shit. Like every other kid I wanted to play in the league. Didn't work out, maybe could have if I went to europe and battled it out a few years. But I digress.....
The overwhelming majority of Division 1 basketball players don't have a chance in hell at the pros. Most of them don't academically belong in college, fail miserably, get C's to stay eligible. After 4 years, they are 35 credits short of a degree and the scholarship has run out.
So they are screwed. Some occasionally play overseas, but the money sucks and so does the lifestyle., Most go back home, and do a whole lot of nothing for the rest of their lives. I know these guys. I know the situations.
If you talk about the occasional superstar that makes huge bucks, you miss the real issue. Take the average annual income of all players who leave college basketball annually, for the draft, or because their eligibility expired. That would be a number you can deal with accurately.
The NCAA screws more kids than you could ever believe.
MattTheSkywalker said:
Ok guys, I am not some shmoe who doesnt understand economics or college or pro sports....
This issue was first brought up we were discussing UNiversity of Cincy players.... thene went on to cincy players who declare their eligibility for draft. I dont know where you guys are finding your informtion,..... If someone would do a simple search and track down the cincy players that left early , we coul do lookups n their contracts.... no matter how you want to try to skew this.. Those PLAYERS ARE WAY BETTER OFF TAKING THEIR CHANCES with the draft from a economic standpoint..
It isnt even going to be close .... which Is whu I find it difficult to believe that you guys are saying this....
I mean, it isnt even going to be close.
I will do it tomorrow when I have more time, but I can guarantee that you will be VER VERY surprised.
Days of the Tantric said:
I am not arguing that these guys are pillars of our community, but that is going to be true regardless of the fact...
These guys have opportunities to make ridiculuosly large amounts of money......
Everyone here keeps on widening the scope, I mean if we are going to have the scope so laege that we include every child in middle schools across the usa.... Yes, then your logic is fine...
But we arent, we are talkin about HIGHLY SKILLED BASKETBALL PLAYERS at CINCINATTI... Of this group an extremly high amount like 50% OR MORE have played in the NBA. A few Years agao, their entire starting 5 was drafted!
Also, you cant believe the NCAAA bullshit propoganda that they arent graduating....
Here is a little known fact.... Many Players have ACTUALLY GRADUATED,..... the ncaa DOES NOT COUNT THESE PLAYERS!!!!!
tHIS IS FOR MANY REASONS.....
!. THEY DONT COUNT JUCO TRANSFERS--- If a player is frm a juco and graduates in regular 4 years... THEY DONT COUNT!!!
2. if a player graduates after he has entered the draft--- THEY DONT COUNT
People look at the ncaa stats and see-- Holy Shit CINCY doesnt graduate anyone..... But in actuallity the graduate a HIGH amount of their players..
They are doing just fine... and I will point this out to you guys tomorrow when I have more time....
You guys have just bought into a SHITLOAD of propaganda trying to keep th players in school..... I will unravel it for you tomorrow.
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Are you trying to say that Coverdale from IU isn't going to be pro? Just look a Brian Evens from IU... err... uhh... Damen Bailey... wait a sec... hmm....
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Time out!
Wow fellas! I didn't mean to open a big can of worms here. My whole point with posting this was only that here was another example of a big time athlete with more opportunities given to him than you can shake a stick at & sure as shit he screws it up....repeatedly. If that would have been you or me you can bet your ass that we'd be sitting in a jail cell right now....& probably for a long time. It'll be interesting to see what happens now.
Wow fellas! I didn't mean to open a big can of worms here. My whole point with posting this was only that here was another example of a big time athlete with more opportunities given to him than you can shake a stick at & sure as shit he screws it up....repeatedly. If that would have been you or me you can bet your ass that we'd be sitting in a jail cell right now....& probably for a long time. It'll be interesting to see what happens now.
MattTheSkywalker said:
You are missing the point.... THIS THREAD WAS FOR CINCY PLAYERS, MORE SPECICALLY CINCY PLAYERS THAT declared themselves eligble for the draft... That is the number we are wroking with..... Next you will want it to include every college student in the country!
I know you are an intelligent guy, we have bebated intelligently before.... I think you are just missing the boat on this one... I will show you tomorrow, when i have more time... Just how really wrong you are...
I know the facts-- I did a essay on this VERY subject in college.. ( Where I too, was playing division 1 football.
Just trust me on this one, you are going to be VERY SURPRISED.
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