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Avoiding stiff joints w/ Winny

roidzilla

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I'm about to add some Winny (50mg ED) to my test cycle but want to avoid the side of joint stiffness if possible. Outside of deca (can't use it since it's detectable for 15-18 months) what is good for lubing up the joints?
 
It's not that I don't want to the the Deca, it's just that I'm a cyclist and get tested occasionally for AAS. It just wouldn't be prudent of me to go with anything that stays in my system that long.
 
Why Winny ?

1. I have 40 50 mg tabs sitting right in front of me
2. Relatively short detection time
3. I have 40 50mg tabs sitting in front of me
4. Great for raising power to mass ratio (i.e. Ben Johnson and almost every other track athlete from the 800m down who are "clean")
5. I have 40 50 mg tabs sitting in front of me
6. While I am looking for functional muscle asthetics are a consideration as well.

I have heard that certain fats, such as flax seed oil, help lube the joints a bit but am looking for a little more input you guys.
 
zilla, I gotta agree with you on reason #3. :)

As for the joint problem, this gets asked over and over, and the only answer is deca. All the others may or may not work.

There is always chondroitin/glucosamine, flax oil, etc. but these are not sure things by any stretch.
 
I posted a thread about this ca. 1 month ago and MSM seemed pretty popular... will try for myself early 2002.
 
TxLonghorn said:
zilla, I gotta agree with you on reason #3. :)

As for the joint problem, this gets asked over and over, and the only answer is deca. All the others may or may not work.

There is always chondroitin/glucosamine, flax oil, etc. but these are not sure things by any stretch.
 
I was using chondroitin/glucosamine as well as flax seed oil(which I always use anyways) and I dont think it did much. at 50mg day oral I got achy joints around week3, but it was not too bad. Im trying some MSM now but not sure if its doing anything either, but it was cheap so I figured I would give it a go.
 
Roidzilla, about your option 4

They nailed Ben Johnson, remember?

Why not take the Winny for 2-3 weeks then off, so less change on joint pain?

You could consider Dynabolin or Durabolin (fast acting Deca's), but if this helps with joint pain as the real Deca does, i don't know.

They leave the system fast.
 
use anadrol, helps out with winny if you don't want to use DECA, but now you have 2 17aa hitting your liver, which sux but it does my joints well.
 
Re: Roidzilla, about your option 4

Jeff_rys said:
You could consider Dynabolin or Durabolin (fast acting Deca's), but if this helps with joint pain as the real Deca does, i don't know.

They leave the system fast.

Not if he gets tested like he says he does. Deca is out of your system way before 18 months, but it's the metabolites that show up. So a different ester won't help.

Another alternative is halo or ox. Those would both contribute to power with minimal weight gain.
 
HEY GUYS

Instead of deca (since I don't really wanna add that in my cycle :) What about a precursor ?? I know in the past I tried 19-nor4andro (precursor to deca) and it worked wonders for my joints. ... I think I'll give it a go when I strat winny..


p.s.


Just wondering if for the first two weeks of my winny cycle I should do 25mg ?? Or maybe a lil longer.. will 25mg /ED be effective ? Maybe the last two weeks @ 50mg ??

thanks
 
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