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Avena Sativa Update...blood work results in!
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Frackal
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what the hell lol
Lift Chief
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Ummmmmmmmmmm didn't it say lawnsaver posted 
lawnsaver
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I dont know what happened! EF's server is slow and keeps messing up my posts!
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Guys last year after 14 months off I got my blood work done. I had a 198 for total test(300-800 norm), and 7 for free test( 15-45 norm). I was put on HRT and then went on a cycle! I came off perfectly with HCG/N-dex and clomid. I have been off for 8 weeks and for the last 4 weeks I have been on 1.5 grams of Avena Sativa ED to try and raise Free Test. Here is a flaw, I should have gotten my blood work done before the Avena, but I waiting until after, so I really dont know what caused my changes but...
My total test is 435
My free test is 21.4
My chlorestorol and Tryglycerides are high, but I eat like shit, so I can change that!
Anyway, I am really happy I have those levels with only 1 good testicle!
I am ready to jump on a new cycle and I feel better moving forward!
I felt a difference on the Avena sative, even know Sofa George will disagree, I say it worked!!
Here is what I typed:
Guys last year after 14 months off I got my blood work done. I had a 198 for total test(300-800 norm), and 7 for free test( 15-45 norm). I was put on HRT and then went on a cycle! I came off perfectly with HCG/N-dex and clomid. I have been off for 8 weeks and for the last 4 weeks I have been on 1.5 grams of Avena Sativa ED to try and raise Free Test. Here is a flaw, I should have gotten my blood work done before the Avena, but I waiting until after, so I really dont know what caused my changes but...
My total test is 435
My free test is 21.4
My chlorestorol and Tryglycerides are high, but I eat like shit, so I can change that!
Anyway, I am really happy I have those levels with only 1 good testicle!
I am ready to jump on a new cycle and I feel better moving forward!
I felt a difference on the Avena sative, even know Sofa George will disagree, I say it worked!!
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Frackal
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Looks like a significant improvement bro, I'm definitely getting some for myself =)
I've been conducting experiments on myself for the past few months. I would take only one supp before bed for a week at a time and test the morning wood.
So far, maca and avena are the only two that never let me down. But I havn't found any research on maca decreasing SHBG. (but curiously, it's been shown to stimulate the thyroid) so it's libido enhancing effects are probably working on a different pathway.It's effects seem to carry throughout the day.
However, there are several studies, albiet sketchy, that suggest Avena directly lowers SHBG. I also find that I get some acne with the avena, which also suggests more free T. The erections also seem stronger and last longer with Avena. I swear, it's like I got a baseball bat touching my chin, under my sheets. I'm sold on it but fear the price going up an the quality going down.
For futher edification, here are my conclusions regarding other pro-sexual compounds. All opinions are welcome.
Tribulus: Intensifies the rigidity of an erection, almost to the point of it being numbing, but does not increase libido or morning wood. It's doubtful that it increases T, free or otherwise.
Epimedium: Seems to stimulate desire, but this is too intangible to determine with any certainty. Has no effect on morning wood.
Arginine: Works to produce NO2, which is what Viagra does. Add 2 grams of Arginine to your normal dose of Viagrra for an extra "kick." By itself, it does nothing.
Nettles: To close to call. It lowers SHBG, but also lowers DHT, which makes it a wash in regard to a sexual aide. Also lowers prolactin, making it the ideal BPH herb. But I hate supressing DHT. It's good to me.
Pro-hormones: Total dick killers. I notice a little spike for a day or two ( probably from the boost in estrogen) , then I'm a eunich for a month. Never again.
Carao: I will giving this the acid test soon. I stopped taking it for a while so I should be clear. I have to stop the avena (sob) and I know the wake up wood will go away. (I'm 49) I will then take ONLY Carao for 2 weeks and see if my one eyed pal perks up. THis is a crude method for testing SHBG, I know, but it's pretty damn accurate -- short of monthly blood tests, both with and without the substance in your system.
So far, maca and avena are the only two that never let me down. But I havn't found any research on maca decreasing SHBG. (but curiously, it's been shown to stimulate the thyroid) so it's libido enhancing effects are probably working on a different pathway.It's effects seem to carry throughout the day.
However, there are several studies, albiet sketchy, that suggest Avena directly lowers SHBG. I also find that I get some acne with the avena, which also suggests more free T. The erections also seem stronger and last longer with Avena. I swear, it's like I got a baseball bat touching my chin, under my sheets. I'm sold on it but fear the price going up an the quality going down.
For futher edification, here are my conclusions regarding other pro-sexual compounds. All opinions are welcome.
Tribulus: Intensifies the rigidity of an erection, almost to the point of it being numbing, but does not increase libido or morning wood. It's doubtful that it increases T, free or otherwise.
Epimedium: Seems to stimulate desire, but this is too intangible to determine with any certainty. Has no effect on morning wood.
Arginine: Works to produce NO2, which is what Viagra does. Add 2 grams of Arginine to your normal dose of Viagrra for an extra "kick." By itself, it does nothing.
Nettles: To close to call. It lowers SHBG, but also lowers DHT, which makes it a wash in regard to a sexual aide. Also lowers prolactin, making it the ideal BPH herb. But I hate supressing DHT. It's good to me.
Pro-hormones: Total dick killers. I notice a little spike for a day or two ( probably from the boost in estrogen) , then I'm a eunich for a month. Never again.
Carao: I will giving this the acid test soon. I stopped taking it for a while so I should be clear. I have to stop the avena (sob) and I know the wake up wood will go away. (I'm 49) I will then take ONLY Carao for 2 weeks and see if my one eyed pal perks up. THis is a crude method for testing SHBG, I know, but it's pretty damn accurate -- short of monthly blood tests, both with and without the substance in your system.
The Bionic Man
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Nelson, in regards to l-arginine, I've used it as a pro-sexual aid and felt like a porn star...lasted longer, wood soon after orgasm, etc...so for me, it worked great (just another testimonial that different things work differently for different people).
Can anyone add any inout as to if and how Avena (or any of these other supps) effect strength and/or physical appearance?
Can anyone add any inout as to if and how Avena (or any of these other supps) effect strength and/or physical appearance?
40butpumpin
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I've had pro-sexual effects from Reishi Mushroom of all things. lol
Hugh Gellatts
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"Certain types of mushrooms are said to be anti-aromitase agents"
yes, Luvs2Juice's untimely demise happened when he was trying to figure out which mushroom type.
yes, Luvs2Juice's untimely demise happened when he was trying to figure out which mushroom type.
Kick ass results LS! Wish ya would have had your BW done before the avena sativa
No big deal though cuz from the numbers I'm convinced. A 237 point diff in total test and a 14.4 diff in free test hell who wouldn't be.
What brand of avena sativa did you take or what would you recommend????
No big deal though cuz from the numbers I'm convinced. A 237 point diff in total test and a 14.4 diff in free test hell who wouldn't be.What brand of avena sativa did you take or what would you recommend????
Bionic Man: You refer to your experience with Arginine in the past tense. I'd presume if it were that great, you'd use it on a consistant basis. Does it have that effect most every time within a steady relatioship, not a random encounter? That's the only way of knowing for sure.
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