Avena Sativa Are Oats!

[Krazykat]

The `supplement` avena sativa are simply oats. Garden bloody oats, avena sativa is the latin name for them!

Tinctures are just straining them in alchohol. Supplement companies sells `concentrated` avena sativa? Concentrated of what. Its such a scam. I`m not saying they don`t work but unless you really can eat some then eat oats!

 

[Johnny Cut]

who cares its cheap and effective

 

[Nelson Montana]

This is wrong. Avena is the extract from a specific type of oat that contains Avenacosides. Something like Quaker oatmeal contains no Avenacosides.

Even if you ate the raw, wild green oats that AS is made from, you'd have to eat pounds of it to get an effective dose. I'd rather take a spoonful of the powder. (It would be nice to find a good qualty avena is a capsule though).

 

[lartinos]

I was wondering the same thing. Whats wrong with the capsule products out now?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Incorrect. I launched the entire avena sativa fad. I made the mistake of using the term "avena sativa" rather than the formulation name A111 because I didn't think A111 exactly jingled on TV. What you consider "avena sativa" is supposed to be an extract of one from 134 variety of green oats. The avenacosides bull shit came along as a marketing tool from some dumbass company that never had anything to do with the original research. (Which one of 134 types is a protected trade secret... and since there were 40 knock offs on the market within a month of my taking the product to TV... where did the knock off artists find time to grwo fields of that one variety? They didn't... they bought groung oat foot powder... also called avena sativa.)

98% of all products being sold as avena sativa are simply ground oats... a powder grade used as foot powder for anti itch ointments. About 2% use Flaschsman extract. A smal percent use Arcopharma extract. There are NO other commercial sources for high grade avena sativa extract. Period. No ands ifs or buts. There are NONE.

And none of the commercially available extracts match the formula that created teh avena sativa fad. It never made it to market. Period.

The foot powder and the commercially available Flacshman do not affect SHBG the way the tested A111 formula did... and with teh death of Nandor Kovacs... don't count on seeing A111 again.

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Maybe so, and maybe there was a better version of it at one time. But from my experence, and the reports of many others, most commercial AS did nothing but the products that has a 12:1 ratio of avenacosides did the trick big time.

 

[Krazykat]

Interesting Nelson, could you see my other post
So I am kinda right, most avena savina is just ground up oats as I suspected. But there are these avenacosides. Interesting.

 

[MR Pink]

If you go to arcopharma.ch you can see their avena sativa product exsativa it is expensive but I think I'm gonna give it a try soon.

Mr Pink

 

[SofaGeorge]

If you go to arcopharma.ch you can see their avena sativa product exsativa it is expensive but I think I'm gonna give it a try soon.

Mr Pink

Nandor Kovacs died... he was responsible for the formula and owned Arcopharma. If there is any working A111 left it will be Exsativa.

 

[DeepZenPill]

Well I'll say this much. After a week or so of using the Avena Sativa from BAC I started developing acne, and my loads increased noticibly. My skin was perfectly clear before using the stuff. It sure seems like symptoms of increased free test, but I can't say for sure. I like it enough that I'm using it indefinitely.

 

[oubeta]

I'm using BAC's a 3g's a day. I have been so for the past 3-4 weeks. I can't tell if it is helping one way or the other.

 

[Singleton]

So here is the a111:

http://www.swissoats.com/main.html

(mods, feel free to edit if this URL is inappropriate)

They claim:

SwissOatsA111 improves your sexual desire (libido), drive and performance by unlocking the bound testosterone, and make it Biologically active again.

Now where is the research to back it up? I ran a pubmed search and didn't find a good result.

 

[SofaGeorge]

So here is the a111:

http://www.swissoats.com/main.html

(mods, feel free to edit if this URL is inappropriate)

They claim:


Now where is the research to back it up? I ran a pubmed search and didn't find a good result.

Correction... here is what is now being called A111. I know intimately what nandor went through to maintain quality control. It is possible, but highly doubtful investors would maintain that quality after nandor's death.