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c17 said:
what about deca at 400 and test at 250 is this good

Not for a first cycle. The idea is to see how you react to test only, then apply that knowledge toward future cycles.

Also, deca tends to shut down your libido pretty hard, so you would want the test to outweigh the deca to counteract this effect.
 
Gym Bulldog13 said:
Do a lot of people react negatively to deca? Also, is there a problem of being able to "get up" if you incorporate deca?

Obviously everyone is different, but yes a lot of people (myself included) do get shut down pretty hard from deca.
 
Snypr said:
I've heard of PCT, but what do you use as a liver protectant? I've been a mod/hvy drinker for 12+ years(I would definitely stop before starting a cycle):this is something I'm sure I would need.

Inormally use solgar milk thistle and LIV 52, definately come off the drink when your on the gear, and increase your water intake aswell.
 
Gym Bulldog13 said:
Do a lot of people react negatively to deca? Also, is there a problem of being able to "get up" if you incorporate deca?

People react differently to different drugs, thats why you need to try them one at a time to see how things go, if you throw a few things in the mix and get problems, you wont know the cause. The issue with the deca your refering to is "deca dick" never had it myself, but i know a few who have. Which highlights my point about different reactions with different people.

Mick
 
apexx great posts.. you should definately listen up..


test only is a great first cycle..
pct is very important.. go read the board

good luck
 
Gym Bulldog13 said:
Do a lot of people react negatively to deca? Also, is there a problem of being able to "get up" if you incorporate deca?
test e 500mg deca 300mg... no prob getting up, always wanted it, just makes you last a little longer, whats the problem with that ?
 
Apexx , Excellent Advice bro! .

One thing I've noticed on elite boards compared to every other place. The genuine health first attitude from everyone!
 
wls8687 said:
Just promise me you wont drink while you'r on cycle.. you don't wanna know what could happend

My plans are to stop drinking 4 weeks before cycle and drink mostly water. I'm not an alcoholic or anything, but I have a feeling I might give in once or twice. I'm hoping not, but I admit that my discipline isn't what it used to be.
 
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