ATTN : KANE FAN !!! Your Punching Power Thread !!!

[Djimbe]

Firstly , where do you Live ? (City & State)

 

[Djimbe]

that's so odd, boxing would make you a weak puncher
especially when yous ay it taught you footwork
if boxing taught you footwork where is the extra power your punches are getting from kungfu coming from?

well , I get into this all the time on less mature boards . Boxing isnt the best way to fight with your hands . Boding is the best way to Fight with Baloons on your hands . You have to fight in a way that allows you to get around the rather easy manner of guarding yourself with enourmous Hand Pillows ! Im not trying to Offend anyone , I LOVE boxing as a sport , but lets face it , getting around the GLOVES CHANGED THE SPORT IMMENSELY . If you ever look at Old timey Bareknuckles matches with guys like Jack Johnson you see that the style was FAR different , and in fact looked much like Chinese IMA .

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I'm heavily into tremendous punching power so anything you(or djimbe cus I know he's into kungfu and is in this thread) can recomend would be great for me to try out

What do you mean by this ? You mean a Teacher or System ? Or an attempt at an explanation of how we generate Power ? A book or Video manual ? Combos of the above ?

 

[Kane Fan]

I live in Rock Hill South Carolina
books or video manuals would be good or just descriptions on here that I can try to work on myself
and I would like to box and compete in MMA someday so boxing can help but it would change a bit with the gloves
I've noticed the difference between 16oz gloves and the smaller ones belive me

 

[Djimbe]

Well , the BASIC Idea is the same as Powerlifting . You should learn to Flex ALL muscles in a Chain . You have to think of EVERY Joint as a "Gate" that opens and Closes along the way - kind of like doing "The Wave" in Breakdancing combines with the Powerlifting . That being said , learning to do it is a different matter entirely ...

Here are some Links on the Issue ...

http://www.emptyflower.com/video.html


http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/bagua.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/bengtanzhang.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/chongzhang.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/classified.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/DaHongBoxing.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/damoucane.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/fanbeichui1.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/hsingyform.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/kaizhang.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/mantis_form.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/secretHsingy.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/shanchuanzhang.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/shunshizhang.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/SifuLee.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/Splitting.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/tonbei1.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/tonbei2.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/stevefarrell/images/yezhang.mov

Bajiquan First Form
http://www.kolumbus.fi/baji/videoclips.htm

Wang Shu Jin:
http://taichi-chuan.com/eng/news_main3.html

http://www.chenzhonghua.com/videos/video_clips.htm
-push hands, and one Qigong

 

[Djimbe]

John Wang's videos :

Master Wai Lun Choi performing the 5-Element Linking Fist form.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/wailunchoi_xingyi.mpg

Old Master's Performance :

1. GM Chang (Chang Dung-Sheng)'s Xing-Jing that he learned from Liu Er-Bao.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_xing_jin.WMV

2. GM Chang's SC demonstration part 1 in S.F (1982).
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_sc_1.WMV

3. GM Chang's SC demonstration part 2 in S.F (1982).
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_sc_2.WMV

4. GM Chang's SC demonstration in Taiwn Kung Fu Tournament at 72 years old (1977).
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_sc_3.WMV

5. GM Chang's SC demonstration in Ohio State (1980).
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_sc_4.WMV

6. GM Chang's TV interview right after his SC demonstration (1977).
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_interview.WMV

7. GM Han' (Han Chin-Tang) 10 moslium "Tan-Tui" form in Taipei park (1965). The kicks are much highter than GinWoo system 12 Tan-Tui.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Han_TanTui.WMV

8. GM Han's "Si-Lo-Pen-Da" form (1965). The Prey Mantis also has a similiar form.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Han_si_lo_pen_da.WMV

9. GM Han's student "XingYi" form (1965). Han is not just an "external" guy. He also taught Taiji and XingYi, maybe not Bagua.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Han_student_xingyi.WMV

10. GM Han's student "Yang Ja Chan - spear" form (1965).
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Han_student_spear.WMV

11 - 15. SC documentry file made in Austin, Texas in 1981. Include history, sole forms, two men forms, true wrestling (you can see the "Mahui" technique in SC_introduction_1), equipment training which included weight puller, tree hanging, belt cracking, bag throwing, weight bar, long bag, cane bundle. The class was in my University of Texas at Austin Kung Fu class. GM Chang, myself, and my students was in it. The forms was filmed in the UT studio. The interview and equipment training was filmed in my house and my upstair deck. It was one single documentary file and I just break it up in 5. You should have better idea about SC after this documentary film.

Please notice the different between SC guy taking a fall and the way to move in which are different from Judo guys.

11. video/SC_introduction_1.WMV
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/SC_introduction_1.WMV

12. video/SC_introduction_2.WMV
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/SC_introduction_2.WMV

13. video/SC_introduction_3.WMV
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/SC_introduction_3.WMV

14. video/SC_introduction_4.WMV
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/SC_introduction_4.WMV

15. video/SC_introduction_5.WMV
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/SC_introduction_5.WMV

16. A Bagua guy fought in a Taiwan kungfu tournament. No head contact for that year. I have a lots of this kind movie clips and will add more to the list if people are interesting in it.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Bagua_fight.WMV

Batch 2 :

1. This is another Bagua fight and involved more throwing techniques.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/another_bagua_fight.WMV

2. This is the way that Central Police University used to run their SC class for Taiwan police officers.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/central_police_college_sc_class1.WMV

3. The main content of this workshop was SC 13 posters but few simple techniques were demonstrated by GM Chang such as one of the SC "eyebrow mopping" technique.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_workshop.WMV

4. A Shaolin style fighter
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/fight_1.WMV

5. With a single good techniques then you can conquer the world.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/fight_3.WMV

6. This turn into a real fight and have to be stopped by referees.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/fight_4_a_real_one.WMV

7. My Taiji pushing hands and don't take it serious.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/my_pushing_hands.WMV

"fight_2" - 1st Asia Chinese Martial Tournament
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/fight_2.WMV

Chang Taiji Part 1 - done by GM Chang (move 1 to move 20)
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_Taiji_Part_1.WMV

Chang Taiji Part 3 - done by John Wang and his students (move 51 - move 108)
*Sorry that I did not put the complete form here just don't want to conflict with anybody has comercial interest in it.
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/Chang_Taiji_Part_3.WMV

6 Harmony Faji methods
http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/video/XY_Liu_Ho.WMV



Posted by Jarek Szymanski on July 10, 2003, 1:35 am
218.79.102.19

Chen Style Taijquan 1st Routine performed by Du Yuzhi's students:
http://www.kongfu.org/wmv/TAICHI_1ST_FIST-1.WMV
(4.61MB)

http://www.kongfu.org/wmv/TAICHI_1ST_FIST-2.WMV
(9.63MB)

and the most important clip - Du Yuzhi demonstrating TJQ:

http://www.kongfu.org/film/fist/TU_taichi.wmv
(2.91MB)

Du Yuzhi (Tu Yu-tse) was a student of Chen Yanxi (Chen Fake's father, Large Frame of Chen style,) and Chen Minbiao (Small Frame and Hulei Frame)

(links originally posted on wushuweb.com)

Jarek

 

[Djimbe]

From: WhiteEyebrow | Posted: 9/10/2003 9:21:18 PM | Message Detail
Some time ago CCTV (China Central TV) on its sports channel 5 has broadcasted a series in 20 parts about traditional Chinese Martial Arts. The series has also been dubbed in English and shown on English channel CCTV9. It was a very well received programm about MA in local TV, as it presented whole spectrum of MA practitioners - from little kids practicing hard to have better future, through wannabes, enthusiastic, but looked down upon by their friends, to real experts.
Three parts in the series were about De Jian - a monk from Shaolin who lives in a small temple o the slope of Shao Shi Mountain and practices Shaolin Xinyiba, rare style, closely related to Xinyi/Xingyi and considered the treasure among Shaolin styles.

All three parts can now be watched online:

rtsp://real.cctv.com.cn/sports/column/56K/426240905tyrj.rm

rtsp://real.cctv.com.cn/sports/column/56K/423660904tyrj.rm

rtsp://real.cctv.com.cn/sports/column/56K/423640903tyrj.rm

Another part available online is about Baoding Shuaijiao, one of the most important branches of traditional Chinese wrestling:

rtsp://real.cctv.com.cn/sports/column/56K/421200902yurj.rm

I think you have to go into your default and unset media player and then install Real Player. However, once you install Real Player it cancels out Media Player so if you want Media Player you must go in and reset it as the default.

http://www.hsing-i.com/pics/index.html

http://www.taichichen.com/videos/Candle.zip

 

[Djimbe]

Okay , If I were you , THIS is what I would do go and see ...

GrandMaster David Chin
Fayetteville NC
Tibetan Hop Gar
Taijiquan
910.485.0039
This gheezer is AWESOME . WILL teach you how to use IMA in a Fight , Taiji especially . I know that hes too far to visit REGULARLY for you , but hes sort of in your Area and may also have Connections around there that I dont . He can PHYSICALLY SHOW you what I cannot , unless youre planning a trip to Philly or NYC anytime soon . An hour of his time is WELL worth whatever pitiful sum hes oing to Charge you for it . Even if its just to open your eyes to a new world of Possibilities .


Eric Sbarge
12610 Steele Creek Road
Charlotte, NC 28273
(704) 504-8866
www.thepeacefuldragon.com
Chang Tai Chi
Hsing I Chuan
Pa Kua Chang
Meditation
This guy is kind of a Hippie . He will stop the Hippie Schpiel if youre Really Direct and tell him that youre Interested in improving your Power Generation and would like to see his Internal Hitting .

 

[Kane Fan]

thanks I'll be reading this for some time
I think my chain reactions might be off for some punches