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Atta reportedly trained in Baghdad prior to 9/11

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Mohd Atta trained in Baghdad: Report

December 14, 2003 15:10 IST

The mastermind of the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States, Mohammed Atta, was trained in Baghdad by Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal at the instance of deposed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, a media report said on Sunday.

Atta visited Baghdad just weeks before 9/11, The Sunday Telegraph reported.

The details of the visit are in a secret memo written to Hussein by the former head of the Iraqi intelligence service Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, it said.

The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained by the daily, is dated July 1, 2001, and provides a short resume of a three-day programme Atta had undertaken at Nidal's base in Baghdad.

In the memo, Habbush reports that Atta "displayed extraordinary effort" and demonstrated his ability to lead the team that would be "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy".

The second part of the memo, which is headed 'Niger Shipment', contains a report about an unspecified shipment -- believed to be uranium -- that was transported to Iraq via Libya and Syria.

Although Iraqi officials refused to disclose how and where they had obtained the document, Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq's ruling seven-member Presidential Committee, said the document was genuine.

"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with Al Qaeda," Allawi told the paper. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with the Al Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

Although Atta is believed to have been in Florida in the summer of 2001, he is known to have used more than a dozen aliases, and intelligence experts believe he could easily have slipped out of the US to visit Iraq.

Nidal, who tried to kill the Israeli ambassador to London in 1982, was based in Baghdad for more than two decades, the report said.
 
It is interesting that Nidal was assinated just before all this with Iraq really started going forward. That was around Aug 2002 I think. I guess Saddam did not trust him to keep a secret. But, why would Atta need training from Nidal, and old wash up terrorist, when he had the backing of Osama. That does not make a lot of sense. Was Nidal an expert at using box cutters, flying airplanes etc? I do not completely buy it.
But the space aliens, of course there are space aliens, have you not seen them, they are everywhere.
 
I bet you believe in space aliens, too

It is hilarious watching people react when they may be proven wrong yet are not mature enough to admit it.
 
I usually agree with you 75th, but why would Atta need training from Nidal? He did not need money, no special skills other then piloting , which he learned in flight school, so what would he need from Abu?
 
The fact is that it MAY have been. It remains to be seen.

HOWEVER-

Please do not let a chimpanzee like Bush brainwash you just by repeating the same total fabrication over and over: Osama and Sadam are/were MORTAL ENEMIES. They hate each others guts to the point that they would love to see each other skinned alive.

What is Osamas BIGGEST beef with America? Americans in the Holy places. Whose fault is that? Sadam was dumb enough to go and invade Kuwait, so we moved into Saudi like favorite cousins. THAT is what started this whole mess.

Sadam likes to kill Shiites. Osama thinks that sucks, as you might well imagine. Sadam ran a civilian government, Osama thinks thats a one way ticked to hell. Etc. etc.

To claim that there is a Sadam/Osama connection is shere fantasy, but if you spout shit over and over again, sheeple will start to spout it too, to sound in the know.

So if a hijacker was trained under Sadams nose by a Palestinian, ok, so it goes, but that remains to be proved. One hand written note doesnt mean shit these days. Hell typing doesnt help either: remember those tons of yellowcake Sadam was trying to get from Niger? <cough cough> Horseshit.

No, and I mean ZERO credible evidence exists to support the claim that there was ANY connection between Sadam and 9/11.

Plenty of evidence exists to suggest that he had NOTHING to do with it though....
 
ChefWide said:
The fact is that it MAY have been. It remains to be seen.


Thats all Im saying. I made sure to include the word "reportedly" in the title and am not saying this is Gospel.

About the Saddam/bin Laden deal, I dont see any defining evidence that these two would refuse to work with each other. Given the fact that al-Qaeda is (was) a fairly large organization, I wouldnt be surprised if they were required to find resources that perhaps did not agree with their original way of thinking.

Besides, the religious aspect of bin Laden's killers is overplayed. Even overlooking the Koran's injunctions against murder and killing of women and children in war, the lifestyles of the al Qaeda terrorists dont reflect orthodox Islam, which is was bin Laden is obviously big on.

Atta, for example, reportedly chugged down vodka like a sailor. On 9/10/01, several of the plotters were seen at a strip club getting wasted. Many of the captured al-Qaeda members lacked full beards, which is a requirement in Islam.

The examples go on and on, and if you like I can post some more but you get the idea.
 
ChefWide said:
The fact is that it MAY have been. It remains to be seen.

HOWEVER-

Please do not let a chimpanzee like Bush brainwash you just by repeating the same total fabrication over and over: Osama and Sadam are/were MORTAL ENEMIES. They hate each others guts to the point that they would love to see each other skinned alive.

What is Osamas BIGGEST beef with America? Americans in the Holy places. Whose fault is that? Sadam was dumb enough to go and invade Kuwait, so we moved into Saudi like favorite cousins. THAT is what started this whole mess.

Sadam likes to kill Shiites. Osama thinks that sucks, as you might well imagine. Sadam ran a civilian government, Osama thinks thats a one way ticked to hell. Etc. etc.

To claim that there is a Sadam/Osama connection is shere fantasy, but if you spout shit over and over again, sheeple will start to spout it too, to sound in the know.

So if a hijacker was trained under Sadams nose by a Palestinian, ok, so it goes, but that remains to be proved. One hand written note doesnt mean shit these days. Hell typing doesnt help either: remember those tons of yellowcake Sadam was trying to get from Niger? <cough cough> Horseshit.

No, and I mean ZERO credible evidence exists to support the claim that there was ANY connection between Sadam and 9/11.

Plenty of evidence exists to suggest that he had NOTHING to do with it though....

Osama in love with Shites? His type have been fighting shites over holy places in Iraq and Saudi sense before there was an Iraq and a Saudi. Osama hates Saddam because he believes he is an Arab that has been taught the true ways of islam as he sees it and refuses to follow them. I believe they call them apostiles,but I am not sure on that. Would Osama team with Saddam to destroy a greater enemy of Islam? It is possible, he has done it before. He teamed with the Northern alliance to get rid of the soviets, so he has a history of putting his beliefs aside to acheive a "greater good". Saddam was an enemy of the royal familes in Saudi and Kuwait, both of whom Osama really hated. He blamed the Saudi government, not saddam for the americans being in the holy land,which is why he was not blowing up buildings in Iraq. So it is not such a stretch to believe that Osama would team with Saddam, an enemy of his enemies. I have not seen enough proof to believe it, but it is possible.
 
ChefWide said:
The fact is that it MAY have been. It remains to be seen.

HOWEVER-

Please do not let a chimpanzee like Bush brainwash you just by repeating the same total fabrication over and over: Osama and Sadam are/were MORTAL ENEMIES. They hate each others guts to the point that they would love to see each other skinned alive.

What is Osamas BIGGEST beef with America? Americans in the Holy places. Whose fault is that? Sadam was dumb enough to go and invade Kuwait, so we moved into Saudi like favorite cousins. THAT is what started this whole mess.

Sadam likes to kill Shiites. Osama thinks that sucks, as you might well imagine. Sadam ran a civilian government, Osama thinks thats a one way ticked to hell. Etc. etc.

To claim that there is a Sadam/Osama connection is shere fantasy, but if you spout shit over and over again, sheeple will start to spout it too, to sound in the know.

So if a hijacker was trained under Sadams nose by a Palestinian, ok, so it goes, but that remains to be proved. One hand written note doesnt mean shit these days. Hell typing doesnt help either: remember those tons of yellowcake Sadam was trying to get from Niger? <cough cough> Horseshit.

No, and I mean ZERO credible evidence exists to support the claim that there was ANY connection between Sadam and 9/11.

Plenty of evidence exists to suggest that he had NOTHING to do with it though....

yeah they hate each other. doesnt mean shit. i hate howard dean too because i think he's an idiot, but i hate bush more, and i might vote for dean to get rid of bush. it's all about self interest, sometimes it defies logic.

go ahead with the conspiracy theories and claim that this evidence is all fabricated. to quote 2thick, "Denial is a wonderful thing." i'm not putting all my trust in it, but to completely disregard it as being false is foolish.
 
And to be completely taken in and post it over and over again so it becomes truth is equally foolish...but it works for the masses.
 
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