At what weight do you get the straps out?

[muscelove]

I do agree that using the least amount of aid as possible is best. The smaller circumference the bar the easier it is to hold so Im gonna try to lift without the gloves, the padding is adding to the size i have to hold.

Is a hook grip when you hold the bar as you would for a curl?
Also when doin mixed grip do you fell any odd pressure inthe shoulder?
Also exactly what does chalk do?

 

[BiggT]

muscleove,

Chalk keeps your hands dry and they don't slip. A hook grip is double overhand with the fingers wrapped around the thumbs. It is like human straps so to speak. Olympic lifters snatch and clean with it in competition as straps aren't allowed. I never feel any pain/pressure in the shoulder with a mixed grip.

 

[blut wump]

I think a curl-like grip would be asking for a biceps injury.

 

[BiggT]

I think a curl-like grip would be asking for a biceps injury.

Yes, it would.

 

[Scotsman]

I can do up to 405 with both hands over and 585 with mixed grip comfortably before switching to straps.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[blut wump]

I've done 405 with a double-overhand grip. I was wondering what I'd be able to do with a mixed grip. Thanks.

 

[Madcow2]

Depends on where the constraint is. If you have tons of back strength and are limited by your overhand grip, you'll pull more. If grip isn't the issue and it's the main pull, you'll pull probably won't pull any more at all.

I will say though that you need to get used to a mixed grip before you go hoisting heavy weight with it. Personally I don't like them due to obvious factors like the lift not being as linear or potentially introducing rotation as wll as making a biceps tear more likely. But yeah, obviously I've used the mixed grip a lot over the years anyway. Got away from it when I was training with friends who were big into OL, if they trained the dead which wasn't typical they'd use straps or hook and pull overhand. Plus, you don't train mixed for a while and you really realize how odd it can feel not having that symmetry.

So there are some possible issues with mixed grip. To minimize this, you work on it with light weight to make sure all is kosher and gradually work up. If you are used to pulling overhand and have never done it, it's a significant alteration in the pull and can even affect your setup to a degree. Once you have been doing it for a while it's second nature though.

 

[AEKDB]

I think grip training is the most overlooked aspect of deadlifting. I train my deadlift grip on a regular bassis, often combined with shrugs:

In the power-rack set the bar just below lockout height. Use chalk and your prefered grip. Start with 135 and shrug for several reps. Keep adding weight until you can no longer shrug the bar. Then add more weight, lockout and hold for a ten count. Keep adding weight until you can either not lock out or your grip gives.

After a while your grip and lockout will no longer be weak points.

 

[b fold the truth]

Times are few and far between...

I've pulled 600 x 2 double overhand and 730 completely raw with a mixed grip. Don't use them unless you have to.

Also...the forearms don't have a lot to do with grip strength.

B True

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

I concur with what Madcow said. Mixed grips just don't feel comfortable to me. There's lack of symmetry, and it feels just plain awkward. A Clean-Hook grip works best for me. Just make sure you start off light with it, otherwise you'll lose a lot of skin on your thumbs. Gotta adjust to it.

And B is correct - forearms have little to do with grip strength.