at 29 is hgh a waste?

[robscottflex]

should I be spending the $$$ on better food suppements and geaar than on hgh?

I believe so, but if by all mean if you think I am wrong please enlighten me. Thanks!

 

[liffalot]

should I be spending the $$$ on better food suppements and geaar than on hgh?

I believe so, but if by all mean if you think I am wrong please enlighten me. Thanks!

I think most males stop producing peak levels of HGH at the end of their teenage years. So while 29 is still young, and better food supplements are always a good idea, there is no question that your GH output is nowhere close to what it was when you were a teen.

That said, whether you prefer GH over AAS is personal.......they have different effects and it depends on what youre looking for.

 

[j_p]

should I be spending the $$$ on better food suppements and geaar than on hgh?

I believe so, but if by all mean if you think I am wrong please enlighten me. Thanks!

your better off spending it on other supops and/or IGF1LR3
chemicalneed has soem great IGF1 for lab testing.

 

[ConanX]

No, it's not a waste. It's more benefitial if you are older but it's definitely not a waste. I know people much younger than 29 who take HGH and love it.
But if money is an issue, spend the money on better AAS, food, good gym membership, etc. HGH should be the last piece of the bodybuilding puzzle. (Well, maybe Insulin is but I'd never mess with that garbage regardless)

 

[charomid]

ya i know a couple guys that took it at 24-25 yrs old and they look phenomenal! granted, it was added to a test cycle as well

 

[bluetoolpaul]

Not a waste at all. If it's too much $$$$ then just stick w/ regular aas and supps. but used w/ aas you could reach new levels. great stuff if you can afford it bro.

 

[Iron Warrior707]

GH should only be used if you are competing at high levels.. I know a dude whos taking gh right now, hes 18,lol hes head and neck looks freaking weird, hes pretty big for an 18 y/o tho..

 

[bluetoolpaul]

18???? shit...how many iu's is he running? he's going to need braces to put his teeth back to normal if he's doing gh at that age. his gh levels are already way up there naturally.

 

[ALIN]

should I be spending the $$$ on better food suppements and geaar than on hgh?

I believe so, but if by all mean if you think I am wrong please enlighten me. Thanks!

I wouldnt say a waste but I do think HGH is best reserved for the well adavanced athlete.

 

[daveyboy2345]

I'd say wait till your 34-35 years old and then maybe run 2.5-3.0 IU's 5 days week, basically hrt plus a bit more. That is if you can afford 600-800IU's a year at that time.

 

[liffalot]

18???? shit...how many iu's is he running? he's going to need braces to put his teeth back to normal if he's doing gh at that age. his gh levels are already way up there naturally.

Depends on the person really. A lot of guys hit their peak GH at 13 or so and then fall off the 60% of that peak by their late teens.

But granted, 60% of a 13 year olds GH is still quite a bit

 

[ConanX]

I always wondered that if a 12-14 year old boy went on a decent dose of HGH if he would grow tall and huge. I read that HGH is prescribed to very small children to help them grow. Not sure if it's true or not, just wondering and curious if it would work or if it would result in disaster.

 

[joeblow12345]

If your rich hell run hgh year round and cycle on and off aas. Buy the best food money can buy as well as supplements. While your at it get your own nutritionist, chef, trainer, masseuse, and chiro. This way youll have the best advantages money can buy. Hgh isnt a waste its just expensive, but if you got the money,by all means get the very best of everything.

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[Iron Warrior707]

18???? shit...how many iu's is he running? he's going to need braces to put his teeth back to normal if he's doing gh at that age. his gh levels are already way up there naturally.

IDK how many, hes also juicing, taking test and dbol.. I would say hes bigger than 80% of dudes on here.. lol, hes around 210, dont know his bf but his pretty lean..

 

[Ripp42]

Idk either u hear often that 35+ is when to take but at 30 they say your gh is goin the other way. Some say 25-29 bc ur gh is about maxed when u get your frame of which mine finished when i was 28.

I dont see how it could hurt. Hopefully RADAR or Arabian will chime in here.

 

[the_alcatraz]

whoever says it's a waste has never used legit HGH. I take 5 ius a day at 27. Have never felt this good in my life.

 

[Ripp42]

whoever says it's a waste has never used legit HGH. I take 5 ius a day at 27. Have never felt this good in my life.

Hijack momment

How do you split urs? Due to your age. Heard ppl inject morning then pre work out then b4 bed.

 

[UA_Iron]

I'll be jumping on it soon, late 20's here.

 

[Liquid 2009]

No, its definitely not a waste

 

[liffalot]

IDK how many, hes also juicing, taking test and dbol.. I would say hes bigger than 80% of dudes on here.. lol, hes around 210, dont know his bf but his pretty lean..

In 7 years hes going to be about 175 at 25% BF with big ole flabby man tits. You're body can't recover from shutdown when youre a teen no matter how much PCT you do.

Kids an idiot.

 

[liffalot]

I always wondered that if a 12-14 year old boy went on a decent dose of HGH if he would grow tall and huge. I read that HGH is prescribed to very small children to help them grow. Not sure if it's true or not, just wondering and curious if it would work or if it would result in disaster.

I had a friend when I was in high school who was test and GH deficient and just wouldn't grow. Docs put him on something (no clue what it was, I would assume minor oral test and GH supplements) and got him up to normal size. Would make sense to me that it would work the same for kids that start at normal size........but I think as we all know, the body doesnt always make sense.

 

[ConanX]

In 7 years hes going to be about 175 at 25% BF with big ole flabby man tits. You're body can't recover from shutdown when youre a teen no matter how much PCT you do.

Kids an idiot.

A good portion of the IFBB pros you see step on stage and the NPC competitors started when they were in their teens. They looked phenominal as kids and built a very strong foundation through AAS. Then when they advanced and got their bodies to where they needed to be, they introduced HGH and Insulin and there you have it, a pro is born

I do get what you're saying though. A lot of guys who start young get burnt out quick. Slow and steady wins the race.

 

[ConanX]

whoever says it's a waste has never used legit HGH. I take 5 ius a day at 27. Have never felt this good in my life.

Younger than you...8ius ED and sleeping like a baby with a strong dose of Tren, T3, and Dbol in my system. GH just negates all the bad sides. It's really incredible. Like you said, never felt this good. What brand you on bro? PM me if you don't want to put up names.

 

[gymrat827]

your better off spending it on other supops and/or IGF1LR3
chemicalneed has soem great IGF1 for lab testing.

this is what id do.....igf1lr3 stacked with GHRP 2 / cjc 1295. you will get all the benefits of GH for much less $$$. muscle growth, fatloss, new muscle cells, recovery. IK that shutdown is somewhat there with HGH but peptides wouldnt cause any of it.


if you pay attention to chemica need's facebook they have 1 hr flash sales with 60% off. take advantage of one of those and your GTG

 

[moneyport]

should I be spending the $$$ on better food suppements and geaar than on hgh?

I believe so, but if by all mean if you think I am wrong please enlighten me. Thanks!

Also you need to consider a practical point: how you can be sure to have a quality source for HGH(unless you have a prescription) because this stuff is both expensive and tightly controlled by LE, many underground source may just either be fake or underdosed.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

A good portion of the IFBB pros you see step on stage and the NPC competitors started when they were in their teens. They looked phenominal as kids and built a very strong foundation through AAS. Then when they advanced and got their bodies to where they needed to be, they introduced HGH and Insulin and there you have it, a pro is born

I do get what you're saying though. A lot of guys who start young get burnt out quick. Slow and steady wins the race.

This is the reason why you rarely see anyone step on the olympia stage in the 20's and podium.... You said it perfect... HGH is the last stepping stone for me if i ever was gonna use it... im 24, and wouldnt consider it for another 8 years or so... I have also been of cycle for 4-5 months now, and have maintained all my gains and am still gaining in the gym... I dont think you need AAS to gain, just to push you from time to time through tough plataeus... Dont get me wrong, i love the feeling of tren and deca, but relistically dont need them. I also think that carb loading and clean bulking should be improvised!!!

If you feel your not making gains with AAS and do not want to "megadose" then i say use some gh... but your diet has to be perfect to know this....
Just remember your going to need slin, and T3, T4, because lets be relistic, your gonna use it... So make sure your willing to go all the way with it if your gonna do it, and dont half ass it..
Good luck, Tough decision...
Johnny

 

[liffalot]

A good portion of the IFBB pros you see step on stage and the NPC competitors started when they were in their teens. They looked phenominal as kids and built a very strong foundation through AAS. Then when they advanced and got their bodies to where they needed to be, they introduced HGH and Insulin and there you have it, a pro is born

I do get what you're saying though. A lot of guys who start young get burnt out quick. Slow and steady wins the race.

As long as you keep supplementing your body with artificial hormones and growth then youre fine, your body wont ever need to regain its own natural production because its got an outside source.

I'm assuming this kid, like some of my own friends, is wanting to look good through high school and college and then once he hits the working world is going to drop off. Look at Arnold now, guy looks horrible. He goes into the real world from being a pro, particularly one where juicing is frowned upon, and all his gains are gone just like that. If you look at early Arnie pictures, he looks much better before than after.

 

[joeblow12345]

As long as you keep supplementing your body with artificial hormones and growth then youre fine, your body wont ever need to regain its own natural production because its got an outside source.

I'm assuming this kid, like some of my own friends, is wanting to look good through high school and college and then once he hits the working world is going to drop off. Look at Arnold now, guy looks horrible. He goes into the real world from being a pro, particularly one where juicing is frowned upon, and all his gains are gone just like that. If you look at early Arnie pictures, he looks much better before than after.

Arnold started juicing in his teens, how do you think he won pro bb shows at 18 and 19. He looks like shit because he stopped juicing and training plus hes in his sixtys. Age will come calling for all of us one day. Hell Ill still be juicing and lifting in the nursing home.

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[liffalot]

Arnold started juicing in his teens, how do you think he won pro bb shows at 18 and 19. He looks like shit because he stopped juicing and training plus hes in his sixtys. Age will come calling for all of us one day. Hell Ill still be juicing and lifting in the nursing home.

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Thats exactly what I just said.

He started juicing in his teens and he never stopped until he started politics when he was in his 50s, thats why he was fine all those years. Then, when he finally did stop, he started to look worse than 50 year old nattys.

If you've got the funds, time, and willpower to juice nonstop until you die then by all means, start in your teens. If not, avoid it, because it will come back to bite you in the ass.

 

[joeblow12345]

Thats exactly what I just said.

He started juicing in his teens and he never stopped until he started politics when he was in his 50s, thats why he was fine all those years. Then, when he finally did stop, he started to look worse than 50 year old nattys.

If you've got the funds, time, and willpower to juice nonstop until you die then by all means, start in your teens. If not, avoid it, because it will come back to bite you in the ass.

Back in those days they didnt have all the info available like now so many didnt know any better. I dont think kids should be juicing. But if you use steroids intelligently I believe you will be way better off than natural guys as you age. Thats why so many docs are putting guys on hrt, because they work really well at what they do when used properly.

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[Syringe]

Don't waste your money on any other supplements. This is the most important hormone in bbing. Gh+gear+food is all you need...slin when you wanna get a lot bigger but you gotta be careful with that.

 

[Syringe]

Back in those days they didnt have all the info available like now so many didnt know any better. I dont think kids should be juicing. But if you use steroids intelligently I believe you will be way better off than natural guys as you age. Thats why so many docs are putting guys on hrt, because they work really well at what they do when used properly.

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The thing is that a lot of pros start juicing at an earlier age even now. Lee priest, shawn ray, etc ..etc those guys were juiced as teens.

 

[Gunslinger007]

I'm on month 4 of a GH cycle, I am also late 20's. We can't discuss prices here, but lets just say that a month of GH will cost you about 2x or more what a month of AAS will cost, including ancillaries.

That being said, I believe it is worth it. I am on 5 iu's, 5 days on, 2 off. I love the stuff. Leaner mid-section (and thats with a diet that I have let get away from me, curbing it back currently) more vascularity, more energy. I've never had bad eyes, but I swear my eyesight has improved. Also, I grow more facial hair, and faster, and my face seems to be leaning-out, looking more masculine.

If you can spare the money, do it. Make sure you read up on the stuff as much as possible though, there is a wealth of information from good bros who have been there done that, you could learn a lot.

Best to you, bro.

 

[ConanX]

Don't waste your money on any other supplements. This is the most important hormone in bbing. Gh+gear+food is all you need...slin when you wanna get a lot bigger but you gotta be careful with that.

Yup,this is the truth. I don't like slin though because of the grotesque midsection. Unless you're looking to make a name in the IFBB then stay away from slin or use it very sparingly.

Also, the GH has to be legit. Way too many fakes or underdosed junk floating around. Trust me, I know

GH + GEAR (Tren as a staple of the gear) + FOOD + GYM = LEAN MONSTER
Don't believe it? Try it!

 

[UA_Iron]

I bet I spend more on AAS per month than I would on GH at 5iu/day... just sayin.

 

[Gunslinger007]

You can easily spend more if you're running multiple compounds. I should have said its easily twice the cost of running a month of Test.

 

[Ruca]

this is what id do.....igf1lr3 stacked with GHRP 2 / cjc 1295. you will get all the benefits of GH for much less $$$. muscle growth, fatloss, new muscle cells, recovery. IK that shutdown is somewhat there with HGH but peptides wouldnt cause any of it.


if you pay attention to chemica need's facebook they have 1 hr flash sales with 60% off. take advantage of one of those and your GTG

Good info..thanks

 

[UA_Iron]

You can easily spend more if you're running multiple compounds. I should have said its easily twice the cost of running a month of Test.

i was just being a dick and got technical.

AAS costs add up quick, compounds, exotic compounds, ancillaries etc.

GH + T3 or T4 and you're pretty well off. But really you'd probably want to run them both - AAS and GH

 

[liffalot]

Just on a side note;

In general, the more expensive the GH, the closer it is to natural human GH and the more likely your body is to recognize it as such and avoid shutdown.

You have to be careful nowadays with cheap GH because companies (particularly in China) are beginning to be able to make GH extremely cheap by folding it on top of itself, which fucks up how it is received by the body and it WILL shut you down.

Thats why in regards to young guns using GH, I would say avoid it simply because most high schoolers dont have the funds to buy the shit that is good quality and safe to use.

Not to mention the fact that I wouldnt trust most 18 year olds with a kitchen knife and their own body, let alone something with the potential for abuse and misuse like GH.