ass whoopin

[Bruce]

your mighty toney having his ass handed to him by roy, now he is fat and needs deca to even beat ruiz who roy destroyed. the heavy division is weak, we have vladimir who has a glass jaw and basically no one else.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GkAdniPgu6o

 

[imyourgod2]

Boxing as a sport is no more. There are way too many titles out there, and the promoters have ruined the sport. How many heavyweight champs are there, like 10 or something. What do they have 3 main ones, the IBF, WBC, and one other. Why??? There should be 1 champion per division. This is why boxing is suffering and it will never reclaim its glory that it once had in the 50's - 80's.

I disagree with your comment that "boxing is a sport no more." The fighters are fierce, hard working competitors who fight their heart out, and get paid for it. By that theory, MMA is not a sport either, due to the fact that more than 2 organizations claim to have the best champion.
It's not perfect, but it's still a sport.
Also, I don't think anyone can claim that boxing will NEVER reclaim its former glory. Stranger things have happened.

 

[JumpBallWinner]

i will tell you right now, i agree about winky. i think winky is the most underated fighter there is. but he does not have the flash and willingness to gamble to get his credit. i disagree about floyds jaw, it was tested against gatti, baldomir who knocked out gatti, and zab judah. i love ricky hatton as well. roy jones destroyed bernard hopkins with a broken right hand, he destroyed james toney, he beat down ruiz and called out tyson and lewis neither of whom would fight him. roy fought every undefeated champ they threw at him and didn't want to fight bernard at 160 again, he happily would have fought him at light heavy. now with bernard coming back maybe they will go again but it would have been better earlier. roy jones is the most talented fighter ever and though he did not have the competition that ali, leonard, hagler had, but you have to think to yourself, put roy jones in the ring with ray leonard, he kills ray, put him in the ring with hagler he wins, anyone you name it young roy tears them a new asshole. so just cause he made everyone he fought look like nothing doesn't mean they were nothing. why would he fight bernard or toney again when he beat them so badly and then moved up in weight for more of a challenge. floyd mayweather, cotto, hatton, paul willliams, and shane mosley all have to fight eachother. roy is getting to old now but had ne never come down for tarver he would still be taking names. just can't drop 40lbs in a month when you are 36

Dead on. A friend of mine who I always discuss boxing with talks about guys you are unlucky enough to come during a time where there isn't any competition. He always talks about young Tyson being one of those guys. My response to him is always this. I think a guy can also be unlucky enough to be so good, that no matter how good his competition actually is compared to other fights of all time, he made them look as if though they weren't competition. I believe that was the case with Roy in his prime, and I believe it would've been the point even to a greater degree with Tyson if his life and career would've taken the right path.

 

[Bruce]

Dead on. A friend of mine who I always discuss boxing with talks about guys you are unlucky enough to come during a time where there isn't any competition. He always talks about young Tyson being one of those guys. My response to him is always this. I think a guy can also be unlucky enough to be so good, that no matter how good his competition actually is compared to other fights of all time, he made them look as if though they weren't competition. I believe that was the case with Roy in his prime, and I believe it would've been the point even to a greater degree with Tyson if his life and career would've taken the right path.

definitley, i think we all know winky wright would have beaten hopkins a long time ago but no one ever gave bernard shit for not fighting wink. holyfield came too late for the good tyson, and bernard blossomed as an older fighter when roy was way past that weight class.

 

[mookie]

definitley, i think we all know winky wright would have beaten hopkins a long time ago but no one ever gave bernard shit for not fighting wink. holyfield came too late for the good tyson, and bernard blossomed as an older fighter when roy was way past that weight class.

I like Winky but lets not get crazy he wouldn't have beaten Hopkins. Also Jones didn't destroy Hopkinks it was a very boring fight with both fighters admitting they gave to much repect for each other. Bernard ducked no one he took the Taylor fight instead of Winky or he would have fought him.

 

[Bruce]

I like Winky but lets not get crazy he wouldn't have beaten Hopkins. Also Jones didn't destroy Hopkinks it was a very boring fight with both fighters admitting they gave to much repect for each other. Bernard ducked no one he took the Taylor fight instead of Winky or he would have fought him.

mook you are the one guy that i love talking boxing with. you made me a grip in the hopkins tarver match. i disagree i have the hopkins jones fight roy has a broken right hand and he beats bernard pretty well, would have liked to see it again. i think winky would beat bernard. the way winky handled taylor who beat hopkins twice, granted i think it was a draw, i think bernard would get real frustrated

 

[Hurricane55]

He is not striving to be the biggest, thats because he most likely can't. Not a lot of boxers can move up through the weight ranges and do well. Some do, but most can't, because they lack the natural hitting power that the heavier people have naturally. Look at Maywether, he probably doesn't have to lose a lot of weight to get into his division anyway. He is structurally small. If he tried moving up he wouldn't do well. Maybe 1 division, but probably not anymore than that..

He actually started out at 130 so he has moved up and won titles in all weight classes he's been in. He's also going to fight (and kill) Oscar at light middle weight in May of 07

 

[mookie]

mook you are the one guy that i love talking boxing with. you made me a grip in the hopkins tarver match. i disagree i have the hopkins jones fight roy has a broken right hand and he beats bernard pretty well, would have liked to see it again. i think winky would beat bernard. the way winky handled taylor who beat hopkins twice, granted i think it was a draw, i think bernard would get real frustrated

You know I am bias toward Hopkins he is my 5th favorite fighter of all time. 1: Sugar Ray Robinson 2: Marvin Hagler 3: Pernell Whitaker 4: Gerald McClellan who beat Roy twice in the ameteurs by the way.

 

[Bruce]

You know I am bias toward Hopkins he is my 5th favorite fighter of all time. 1: Sugar Ray Robinson 2: Marvin Hagler 3: Pernell Whitaker 4: Gerald McClellan who beat Roy twice in the ameteurs by the way.

its sad about gerald. that is the reason that roy was a bit reluctant when he grew up. he saw mcclellan get beat down and ruined. they were good friends. too bad they never were able to fight in the pros. who was it that beat Mc Benn? or someone like that

 

[ThepoolGuy]

the only people i gave a shit to show it too were in the steroid forum. with all the bullshit in these threads now what is wrong with some athletic talent. they are elite athletes no? mayweather could whoop any 300lbs bber with about 3 punches. he is not striving to be the biggest.

Man thank you. Floyd Mayweather would hit you ten times before you even saw it coming. It doesnt matter how much you weigh and yes 150lb boxers have lethal punching power. I weigh 218lbs and my boy who boxes hovers around 158lbs and let me tell you I would stand no chance in a street fight against him.