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You can get it for $60 for a month's worth at full dose? How much is your cable bill?k6jatu37 said:
If you're looking to save money and use something similar though I suggest AIFM from the AF Store. That's only $39 for 6 weeks.
It's a good thing. It's not what you're thinking. It doesn't mean it will do something TO you that is irreversible. It refers to what it does to the little converters (aromatese) in you that make estrogens out of test. But you're constantly making new little converters. So don't worry about it.
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Isnt 25mg full dose? The liquid version is 10mg per dose and last for 30 days. Am i missing something?
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What brand are you talking about where for $60 i can get a months worth at full dose? Where can i get this?
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eastcoastplayer
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Prop2 said:
that brother doesn't carry around that long signature for nothing.
check out the AF store, they'll hook you up
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eastcoastplayer said:that brother doesn't carry around that long signature for nothing.
check out the AF store, they'll hook you up
yeah i did check out that af store but its $65 for a month at 10mg not the full dose 25mg. I though he said in his post that you can get it for $60 for a month's worth at full dose. I was thinking damn thats a good price where can i get that?
MickyBlues
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If one was to use it alone, for just getting ridding of some estrogen and tighten up would 10mg a day be sufficient? From what I understand aromasin is strong.
njmuscleguy
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Ulter said:
Liquiaromasin from AG is 10mg / ml
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Mr.X
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k6jatu37 said:
Go with letrozole if you think aromasin is too expensive for you, 1.25mgs of letrozole (starter dose) -variable to your cycle of course- is super potent. NO other anti-E compares to letrozole.
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Prop2 said:
The dose depends on your cycle, there is no "full dose". If you're running 100mgs of test per week, you don't need 25mgs of aromasin.
Tell me about your cycle, and I can tell you about dosages.
MickyBlues
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Mr. X could you tell me what dosage should be taken if not running gear. I won't to run aromasin alone just to rid myseld of some estro, not tottaly of course. I was thinking 10mg/day for 3 weeks along with 10mg Nolva/day.
njmuscleguy
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Mr.X said:
is letrozole effective for progesterone-related gyno? I'm pretty sure I read that aromasin can be used.... any studies on that?
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MickyBlues said:
Should? no such thing. Off cycle AI /anti-E dosages are subjective at best.
I don't suggest it unless you've run out of your diet/cardio options.
MickyBlues
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From everything Ive read, Aromasin can't hurt. I need to up my free test levels because they are low, and I am very confident it has to do with to much estro in me. I diet, train etc, and can't seem to get rid of belly fat. I know this is due to much estro. Ive always been able to get tight just from eating right. I also am lacking in the libido department. Im sure some of that test is binding with SHBG.Mr.X said:
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njmuscleguy said:
AIs decrease PR expression, but it's not necessarily going to 'prevent' progesterone-related gyno. Letrozole being the most powerful anti-E (AI) out there; I'd recommend it over any other AI if you have progesterone gyno.
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MickyBlues said:
Your stats, (age included) , training history, cycle history, and post your diet and training/cardio regiment.
Without that information, there are many assumptions I can make.
njmuscleguy
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Quiltie said:Not enough Estrogen CAN hurt. Taking Aromisin without being on a cycle is asking for trouble. Your joints will feel like a horror show. Read up on the consequences of having low estro, you'll see. It made me feel REALLY creaky and crappy.
Good point here.... mickey, you should get some bloodwork and see what really is going on... check your total test, free test, SHBG, Prolactin levels for starters.... then you can more accurately assess the problem.... if SHBG is the problem, there are better more natural approaches you can take (Avena Sativa, Catuaba, Carao, Muira Puiama)... protein factory makes a good product for that called Unleashed.
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Mr.X, to answer your questions about me im 22 years old, 5'8 and a half inches tall, 160 pounds, can almost see a full 6 pack when standing up only, and im pretty lean and muscular naturally. I never really worked out and my diet has always been a good one in general. I have hairloss so i took propecia in the past and noticed i suffered from an increse of estrogen. My flat, tight pecks became loose and i gained some fatty tissue in them, and my face looked a bit more round and not chilsled like before. Due to the exess estrogen i became a bit more loose and not so hard/ cut. I know the side effects of exess estradiol and i suffered from them. It also says on the Merck webisite than people taking Propecia can suffer from increased Estradiol because it reduces DHT.
The crappy part is Propecia didnt really work that great for me so im switching to Dutasteride. Dutasteride inhibits more DHT so the estradiol increase is about 25%. Thats why i want to use a low dose of Aromasin daily to counter the 25% increase in estradiol caused by Dutasteride. So would 10mg's of Aromasin daily be too much and would it lower estrogen too much while on Dutasteride? I also plan on taking DIM, and Curcumin with Bioperone. What would you recommend for my situation Mr.X? Thanks!
The crappy part is Propecia didnt really work that great for me so im switching to Dutasteride. Dutasteride inhibits more DHT so the estradiol increase is about 25%. Thats why i want to use a low dose of Aromasin daily to counter the 25% increase in estradiol caused by Dutasteride. So would 10mg's of Aromasin daily be too much and would it lower estrogen too much while on Dutasteride? I also plan on taking DIM, and Curcumin with Bioperone. What would you recommend for my situation Mr.X? Thanks!
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I've been off of Propecia for about 3 weeks because i ran out and im waiting for my Dutasteride, and a few weeks before i ran out i was using it pretty inconsistantly. I have to say that today my face looks better and more chisled like it used to, and my body is starting to look better and more cut like it used to. I dont get it because my weight pretty much stays the same. Its amazing how much better my face looks when chisled like it originally was before propecia. Unfortunately DHT is very bad for my stupid hair and i'll look even worse bald. So basically i want to keep my lean chisled look while on Dutasteride and i guess lowering estrogen while on Dutasteride would enable me to do this right? Would 10mg of liquid Aromasin be enough or too much? Mr.X? Will even a low dose of Aromasin long term crush my sex drive? Thanks.
MickyBlues
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That's why Aromasin is of choice here, it inhibits 80% of estro. Of course, this is for short term use and all levels will return to normal after cessation.Quiltie said:Not enough Estrogen CAN hurt. Taking Aromisin without being on a cycle is asking for trouble. Your joints will feel like a horror show. Read up on the consequences of having low estro, you'll see. It made me feel REALLY creaky and crappy.
By the way I would only be running 10mg EOD for 3-4 weeks. Just want to lean out a bit to. Had my bloodwork done and Free T wasn't in the range it should be. Total T was 633 but Free T is the most important thing here.
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Prop2 said:
You taking Durastride via a prescription or are you self-medicating?
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Self medicating. My Doc wont do it as its not for prostate problems but for hairloss. He would do propecia but that hasnt really worked for me. Ive done a lot of research on it and it proved to be safe and effective in a 4 year study. I dont plan on using it for more than 5 years as hair multiplication is very close and will be a reality within 5 years time forsure. I do a lot of reading on the hairloss forums. Im aware that Dutasteride lowers type 2 dht by about 90% and type 1 dht by about 50%. Im also aware that it increases testosterone by about 25% and estrogen (estradiol) by about 25%. So basically i was thinking about a safe low dose of Aromasin daily to lower estradiol by about 25%. Mabye a dose of 5mg daily would do this and be safe? See Doctors dont care that i want to keep my hair they say its natural but i wont lose the battle so ive done my own research. Plenty of people use it with great results and a lot dont have any side effects either. Dutasteride is a lot safer than using AAS in my opinion.
Thats why i was wondering if you could help me out with a safe low dose of Aromasin to prevent gyno or the 25% increase in estradiol Dut causes. What do you think about 5mg per day?
Thats why i was wondering if you could help me out with a safe low dose of Aromasin to prevent gyno or the 25% increase in estradiol Dut causes. What do you think about 5mg per day?
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Prop2 said:
The reason I asked if you were self-medicating is I believe you should consult with your doctor about this.
I'm not a big fan of using Anti-Es (AIs) when you're not on a cycle, unless you absolutely have to. I would bring this up with your specialist and see what he says. If you get no feedback, we can try to work out a plan for you.
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Hi Mr.X, actually i did consult with my doc the other day as i said but he would only prescribe finesteride even though i told him it didnt really work that great for me. He said the same things basically that nothing really works for hair,ect. Dutasteride isnt FDA approved for hairloss and he said that there isnt that much data on the drug so he cant prescribe it to me. The same as with most doctor's say. I doubt most doctors would prescribe sustanon 250 or d-bol aswell. Dermatologists are even more morons and they will on prescribe or condone the use of rogaine and finesteride.
So can you help me work something out? Do you know how much estrogen 5mg's of aromasin would lower? Would that be a safe dose?
So can you help me work something out? Do you know how much estrogen 5mg's of aromasin would lower? Would that be a safe dose?
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BUMP for Mr.X PLEASE!
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B.U.M.P. for the Mr.X!
JohnnyWest
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I feel for ya, this bump is on me. Have you ever concidered .25mg adex ed or eod?
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Prop2 said:
Alright, I think in your case, a low dose of an anti-E will be something you can try. I don't think you should start off with aromasin. Start off with Arimidex at .25mgs EOD, see how you react to that dosage.
Remember, taking AIs without a cycle is not always good for you - unless you have a specific reason, like gyno treatement. Thus, let's start off slow. You can always jump on heavier dosages or switch compounds.
I still believe you should find professional medical help in this case, but if that's not an option we can try to workout a safe routine for you.
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Hi Mr.X, thanks a lot for the reply i really appreciate it. I have a mild case of gyno right now so i'll be using the stack you recommended 1.25mg letro + 40mg nolva for 2 months max the first time around and i think that should kill it because its pretty recent and its pretty mild. I'll be taking Dutateride starting next week for hairloss so once i start Dutasteride for a few days im going to run the letro+nolva cycle. Once that cycle is finished i want to make sure i dont get any more gyno again while taking Dutasteride for hairloss.
So thats why i wanted to run a safe low dose anti-e to prevent it if thats possible and safe at the same time. I'll use the 0.25mg of Arimidex EOD like you recommended and see how i react. Just wondering though is Arimidex easier and safer on the body and cause less side effects than Aromasin? From what i gathered Aromasin is safer and has less side effects than Arimidex. Is that true? I read that Arimidex can make your cholesterol levels go up. I was thinking of running 5mg of Aromasin per day unless you think Arimidex is still better and safer for me. I wish i could seek out medical advice from a Doctor but they just dont get it.
Anyways if you could please reply asap that would be great so i can order the anti-e recommended. Thanks Mr.X!
So thats why i wanted to run a safe low dose anti-e to prevent it if thats possible and safe at the same time. I'll use the 0.25mg of Arimidex EOD like you recommended and see how i react. Just wondering though is Arimidex easier and safer on the body and cause less side effects than Aromasin? From what i gathered Aromasin is safer and has less side effects than Arimidex. Is that true? I read that Arimidex can make your cholesterol levels go up. I was thinking of running 5mg of Aromasin per day unless you think Arimidex is still better and safer for me. I wish i could seek out medical advice from a Doctor but they just dont get it.
Anyways if you could please reply asap that would be great so i can order the anti-e recommended. Thanks Mr.X!
JohnnyWest
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That's good you're figuring out what you want to do, but I suggest once you are on whatever long term dose you want to take, in about 6 weeks after starting the long term treatment, get blood work done to check estro levels to make sure they're in the normal range, not enough estrogen is a very bad thing.
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