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Are You Ready For Steroids?

I have experienced this over and over with many people I train...

It is unbelievable that people expect to inject or pop before putting a diet or 'true' regime in place. I have been training for 11 years now and using for about 5 but very focused on my goals and diet.

Diet is actually more important when not using.

An increasing number of children (forgive the term but that is what I call the 21 and 22 year olds who think sticking a needle in them is the best way of getting big) and I am tired of reading about people who are doing their first cycles trying to take 750 mg of test mixed with this and that rather than progressively building up.

If those children who are naturally producing 50-60mgs of testosterone naturally a week need to inject more than 10 times that on a first cycle, they are definitely doing something wrong.

It is funny how numerous people I train complain they are not gaining weight but when you ask if they stuck to their diet they say no. They forgot breakfast cause they were busy or they forgot to eat / drink after their workout cause they didnt have enough time...... it is quite, simply, unbelievable.

I had a break recently - was off for a number of years - and yes I would have loved to jump right back on to aas but trained for a while before using and with the right diet, not drinking alcohol and sleeping correctly, I gained 22lbs in 10 weeks - naturally!

Yes, of course it is also assisted by muscle memory but with the right diet, rest and training, people can definitely get more without looking for a quick fix.
 
That was a good post. I joined this site looking for info for my first cycle. That was close to a year ago now, and I am still yet to do my first cycle. I have made the best gains in my life this past year with proper diet, training, and supplementation alone. I am glad I didn't jump on that cycle a year ago. Where would I be now? Would I be gaining all this size and strength naturally after my cycle? Probably not. If you are young (<30) and on the fence about cycling just hold off. I know people want to be ripped and huge and do as little hard work as possible, but it just isn't that easy. There are no shortcuts in this game. Train smart.
 
sugashane said:
I was basically just what you described, and did M & F's monthy routines too. Got on here to find out what to get and found out I was clueless so I opted to wait to do gear and learned about REAL lifting, nutrition, ect. Glad found this site or I might have done some serious and permanent damage.
I like the concept, but I always figured you needed to be more sound when OFF gear if there was gonna be a difference. Since you don't have the exogenous "boost" so to say.

I am still not on gear. I have been reading and trying to educate myself about it. I faithfully go to the gym....unless I am dinged up....and need a little extra healing time.....I faithfully eat my protein....try to manage my diet.

I still am making progress at the gym. I got asked the other night if I did Steroids. I was like...hell no....I'd be huge if I did.

My diet isn't clean...but it's fairly decent.....but still needs a lot of work. It might be 6 months to a year before I actually would be willing to do a cycle, but I know when I do, I'll be able to do it responsibly, and have the knowledge, the proper gear, routine, diet etc. in place ahead of time before I even start it. Good post......and a good reminder for everyone.

Your fitness goals imo should be viewed as if you are running a marathon.....not a sprint. Take your time...pace yourself...train right.
 
Caleb's Tree said:
Your fitness goals imo should be viewed as if you are running a marathon.....not a sprint. Take your time...pace yourself...train right.

I agree with you. Unfortunately we live in the "Instant Gratification" Society. People are taught, from a very early age, that if they want something, they should have it NOW.

Very few people are willing to sacrifice to get what they want. That's why I like coming to EF. It motivates me to see other Bro's out here putting in the time and doing things right BEFORE they try gear.
 
partagus said:
I agree with you. Unfortunately we live in the "Instant Gratification" Society. People are taught, from a very early age, that if they want something, they should have it NOW.

Very few people are willing to sacrifice to get what they want. That's why I like coming to EF. It motivates me to see other Bro's out here putting in the time and doing things right BEFORE they try gear.

That's true.....we are all guilty of that. I am taking my time and waiting till I try gear. I am getting gains naturally and am 44. Added about 3/4s of an inch to my arms in about 3 months. Now, maybe that don't impress some, but it impresses me, and I did it naturally with a halfway decent diet and half way decent training, and imo, both my diet and training could be better.

Some day I will try gear, but if you can't gain naturally imo, you shouldn't do gear, because something you are doing isn't right. When my time comes to cross to the darkside....I want to do it responsibly and knowledgeably.
 
That's true.....we are all guilty of that. I am taking my time and waiting till I try gear. I am getting gains naturally and am 44. Added about 3/4s of an inch to my arms in about 3 months. Now, maybe that don't impress some, but it impresses me, and I did it naturally with a halfway decent diet and half way decent training, and imo, both my diet and training could be better.

Some day I will try gear, but if you can't gain naturally imo, you shouldn't do gear, because something you are doing isn't right. When my time comes to cross to the darkside....I want to do it responsibly and knowledgeably.

Believe me, that impresses me to say the least, that your 44 and added 3/4s of an inch to your arms congrats.

I am 20 years old and was seriously considering doing steroids to help my physique and perform better on the gridiron. After joining this site and reading and researching for hours I realized that I dont need joose. I got enough testosterone and with a clean diet i can get some killer gains. Too many of my buddies misuse joose...not even 22 yet and are on year round joose cycles without PCT. I feel sorry for these guys cause their health has gone to shit...Im pretty sure their livers and heart arnt on speaking terms right now.

Just a side note hopefully someone can anwser this...what would be a good OTC supps stack for someone like me, who can run a pretend cycle. People seem to talk good things about this dermacrine, but they don't ship to canada :(
 
Saint of Iron said:
Believe me, that impresses me to say the least, that your 44 and added 3/4s of an inch to your arms congrats.

I am 20 years old and was seriously considering doing steroids to help my physique and perform better on the gridiron. After joining this site and reading and researching for hours I realized that I dont need joose. I got enough testosterone and with a clean diet i can get some killer gains. Too many of my buddies misuse joose...not even 22 yet and are on year round joose cycles without PCT. I feel sorry for these guys cause their health has gone to shit...Im pretty sure their livers and heart arnt on speaking terms right now.

Just a side note hopefully someone can anwser this...what would be a good OTC supps stack for someone like me, who can run a pretend cycle. People seem to talk good things about this dermacrine, but they don't ship to canada :(


I think the Sustain Alpha ships to Canada, just not the Dermacrine cause it has DHEA. Not sure. The thing that helped me was realizing how much protein I needed to take in, eating 5 times a day, getting enough rest, and having a good routine. I take Creatine, which could account for a bit of my size gains with water retention, Whey Protein, and a Multivitamin. Lots of water, and electrolytes when I think I've drank too much water...LOL. I've been working out for 6 months straight, and have made some decent gains in the gym naturally. I have low test by the way, and will probably start some HRT sometime this summer, but I've done decently with legal suppliments. You can still gain muscle and strength even if you have low test.

If you have a place like a Vitamin World, or GNC in Canada, they might be able to tell you what legal supps you can take. Anything that can help you boost test will probably help you in the gym. Protein probably is the best legal suppliment you can take imo.
 
Most people do not understand the role that a diet has. A spot on diet thats fitted towards your goals can give you gear like results at the novice and even intermediate levels. If you want to bulk then you set up a bulk diet and you follow it perfectly and the same with a cutter.
 
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