Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

[spentagn]

why are you harping on this subject? why do you care? I stated that this topic basically sucked because nothing changes when it's all said and done. However, I felt that my valued and enlightened insight was needed on this thread. If you want to argue on the topic, lets do so. However if you want to bicker on why I posted my intelligent opinions on this thread and call me a hypocrite we can PM each other and spare these good people such nonsense.

Look, I agree abortion is wrong. But there is much that is wrong with society, and abortion is a necessary evil, IMO. I'm sure if we examined those in prison, we can learn a lot from prisoners. I ask you to guess, and be objective now, what sort of family life did those inmates have? did they even have one? would society have been better of had they not been born?

And again, I'll say this one more time. Those that grow up unloved and unwanted, will exact a terrible toll on society. Abortion eliminates that. It's wrong. But sadly true.

Would abortions have to occur if people, who weren't willing to accept the consequences, didn't partake in sexual intercourse? Your correlation between inmates and abortion is weak. I'd imagine that many of today's abortions actually are performed on middle and upperclass girls, who have every means of raising a child. And besides, prison populations show an unproportionally high number of XYY males, XXY females, and minorities. Maybe we should just abort those fetuses then, right?

I find it amusing that you suggest I bicker about your motivations for posting on this thread. Maybe next time you'll quote and reply to the meat of my response. In other words, if you choose to respond, don't just quote this paragraph and ignore the substance.

 

[spentagn]

that was lame. you can do better than that.

His post sums it up, why should he add to it?

 

[spentagn]

BTW, I'm off to work. Please don't take my temporary silence as defeat.

 

[smallmovesal]

if you choose to respond, just quote this paragraph and ignore the substance.

ok.

actually i wanted to ask you if you have ever had sex and been afraid the girl was pregnant, OR if you have ever had sex with someone you weren't necessarily sure you'd want to raise a child with.

 

[wyst]

Pro-choice. I'm not a christian, and I don't appreciate it when people try to lay their christian beliefs on me, especially here in the US, where church and state are divided by law.

 

[toga22]

Pro-Choice

 

[Longhorn85]

actually i wanted to ask you if you have ever had sex and been afraid the girl was pregnant, OR if you have ever had sex with someone you weren't necessarily sure you'd want to raise a child with.

The ultimate selfish act would be to kill the unborn baby because of those type of reasons. Of course you could justify it by saying to yourself: "I wouldn't want to bring a baby into the world until I can provide the best type of loving home. It wouldn't be fair to the child."

So let's just kill it so it won't cramp my style.

 

[polarpixie]

Most of you will probably skip this cause it is so long but:

For all those who say Oh, well, if you want to have sex then be responsible or deal with the consequences. If only it were so simplistic. ACCIDENTS happen regardless of how responsible you are, whether you use birth control pills, condoms, etc. Unless you are infertile, no fail-safe bc methods exist. Condoms break. Pills fail.

For those who believe that abortion is murder, how do you feel about mercy killing? Because an unwanted child is unwanted for many many reasons and likely to have a miserable life. There may be no emotional support for the mother, not even the a-hole who bolted. No financial support. What's funny is, most pro-lifers also seem to want to take away the welfare program. Have your eyes been opened to see those mothers barely making it by at the local shelter with their 10 kids because they don't belive in abortion or cannot afford it?? How do you propose a problem like that be solved?

For men who have very strong opinions about this, please do not ever tell a woman what to do on this issue. Hopefully you can understand that you will understand that you can never fully comprehend what a women must go through mentally and physically when she is faced with such an extraordinary decision.

I speak from seeing these things happen with my own eyes. I speak from knowing women who have struggled with the decision. That doesn't mean there are no women who are frivolous with abortion, they'll get what is coming to them, and they are not yours or my problem to deal with.

 

[smallmovesal]

that's really harsh.

have you ever known anyone who's gone through an abortion? it's a very tough decision to make and not trivial at all.

i don't know how i personally would handle the news of a pregnancy but i sure as hell wouldn't judge someone else for choosing to abort.

regardless, you missed the point of my statement. i asked him that because he stated essentially that one should keep his/her pants on if child-rearing is not in the cards... so i asked if he's ever in his life engaged in that type of behaviour.

 

[Longhorn85]

Most of you will probably skip this cause it is so long but:

ACCIDENTS happen regardless of how responsible you are, whether you use birth control pills, condoms, etc. Unless you are infertile, no fail-safe bc methods exist. Condoms break. Pills fail.

{Therefore don't have sex if you're not willing to see the possible pregnancy through}

What's funny is, most pro-lifers also seem to want to take away the welfare program. Have your eyes been opened to see those mothers barely making it by at the local shelter

{Many of those shelters are owned by churches supported by conservatives}

For men who have very strong opinions about this, please do not ever tell a woman what to do on this issue

{That is BS in my opinion. Why should a man have any less to say about it? It takes two to tango. If you don't think the man has a vote in wheter or not the baby is born, then are you advocating that he has no responsibility if she decides against his will to have the baby? No child support?}