Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

[spentagn]

yeah right. tell that to all the kids an orphanages. oh where, I ask you, are the pro-lifers to help these poor children???

We're keeping our pants on and our legs down. Can't handle the consequences, don't partake in the deed. I really like how you expressed your disappointment at the intiation of this thread, but now go with the majority and bash pro-life advocates. Which is it? Are you disappointed, or just a hypocrite?

 

[MommaKin]

Great points, Nature Boy.

I am pro-choice.

 

[gymnpoppa]

If prolifers put nearly as much energy into advocating for America's unbelievably abused children, they'd do us all a favor.

But in my experience the same people who claim they want to speak for the entire class of the "unborn," inevitably say the rest of us shouldn't interfere in the upbringing of other people's children. It's an almost predictable contradiction.

Of course, you would see this. I would like to see what you mentioned happen. Channel that "energy" into the children, the abused children. Won't happen.....too much like right.

 

[the nature boy]

We're keeping our pants on and our legs down. Can't handle the consequences, don't partake in the deed. I really like how you expressed your disappointment at the intiation of this thread, but now go with the majority and bash pro-life advocates. Which is it? Are you disappointed, or just a hypocrite?

no i got dragged into this stupid thread. I'm not bashing pro-life advocates, I'm bashing the pro-life stance. I have plenty of friends that are pro-life.

But lets look at what you just said. And answer this. Assuming not everyone has the morals and dicipline as yourself, what of those poor children that go unadopted? Do we not care for them anymore, because their irresponsible parents didn't "keep thieir pants on and legs down"? What should we do? You're a bright person. You tell me.

Notice I'm not trying to change anyones mind because it's impossible, as I stated before.

 

[gymnpoppa]

Great points, Nature Boy.

I am pro-choice.

Hey MommaKin, what else comes with that shake?

I don't do fries, but I love chicken, preferably tender breast meat.

 

[spentagn]

no i got dragged into this stupid thread. I'm not bashing pro-life advocates, I'm bashing the pro-life stance. I have plenty of friends that are pro-life.

ok. thin line. But noone "dragged you in."

But lets look at what you just said. And answer this. Assuming not everyone has the morals and dicipline as yourself, what of those poor children that go unadopted? Do we not care for them anymore, because their irresponsible parents didn't "keep thieir pants on and legs down"? What should we do? You're a bright person. You tell me.

Unadopted children are still cared for. Don't get me wrong, I'm not imagining foster care as some rosey environment, but their physical needs are met. Granted, Maslow wouldn't be satisfied, but he's dead. What should we do? Is there any answer I could give that could possibly suffice on this issue to a group that doesn't agree with me? I think not. As you yourself just said:

Notice I'm not trying to change anyones mind because it's impossible, as I stated before.

But NOTHING could convince me that aborting a life, especially if to soley prevent the risk of not being adopted, is in any way worth it. The opportunity cost is too high. What could that life have become? Who would that child have been? What if?

And on a side note, people that doubt the return of Jesus: It will most likely be prevented because some young, unwed virgin will be surprised at immaculate conception, and society will demand that that child be aborted. Tongue in cheek, folks.

 

[the nature boy]

ok. thin line. But noone "dragged you in."

why are you harping on this subject? why do you care? I stated that this topic basically sucked because nothing changes when it's all said and done. However, I felt that my valued and enlightened insight was needed on this thread. If you want to argue on the topic, lets do so. However if you want to bicker on why I posted my intelligent opinions on this thread and call me a hypocrite we can PM each other and spare these good people such nonsense.

Look, I agree abortion is wrong. But there is much that is wrong with society, and abortion is a necessary evil, IMO. I'm sure if we examined those in prison, we can learn a lot from prisoners. I ask you to guess, and be objective now, what sort of family life did those inmates have? did they even have one? would society have been better of had they not been born?

And again, I'll say this one more time. Those that grow up unloved and unwanted, will exact a terrible toll on society. Abortion eliminates that. It's wrong. But sadly true.

 

[Warik]

I am Pro-Choice. I believe every man and woman has a right to choose whether or not they want to have sex.

I don't see what the big debate is about.

-Warik

 

[Warik]

Look, I agree abortion is wrong. But there is much that is wrong with society, and abortion is a necessary evil, IMO.

There is no such thing as a necessary evil. All evil is unnecessary. We cannot abandon our morals and our principles whenever it becomes convenient for us. Innocent life is precious and should be preserved at all costs. All sentient beings have the right to choose their fates.

Why don't we apply this to slavery? All the big fat white plantation owners couldn't possibly work those fields alone, and it would be much to expensive to hire a lot of hands to do the work for them, so they just buy some slaves cheap and have them work. Is slavery a barbaric stain on humanity's past, or is it also a "necessary evil?"

-Warik

 

[smallmovesal]

I am Pro-Choice. I believe every man and woman has a right to choose whether or not they want to have sex.

I don't see what the big debate is about.

-Warik

that was lame. you can do better than that.