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Are you going to hell? Take the test.

I got a 167 and I answered honestly. Damn.

"You're a danger to society. Who let you out on a day pass?"

I don't like this game.
 
"Have you ever made someone else sleep in the wet spot?" LMAO... ummm yeah I did that.
 
I also got a kick out of the carpet burn one... ummm yeah I had to answer yes to that one also.
 
deteras1 said:

Dude, same score I got. Kind of freaky since I am your arch-nemesis (of course I am the arch-nemesis of several EF members). At least a couple guys got higher one's than us.

Killahbee, damn orb.
 
Post your scores damnit! Curling and Wodin didn't put up numbers.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Dude, same score I got. Kind of freaky since I am your arch-nemesis (of course I am the arch-nemesis of several EF members). At least a couple guys got higher one's than us.

Killahbee, damn orb.


Pretty much the only questions I answered no to were the gay thing and the eyeball thing. I think most people I went to college with would answer yes to the rest.
 
The gay stuff, the necrophilia and beastility one, the one about being thrown out of a bar (I worked as a bouncer though and thrown peeps out and been in some bar fights, but never thrown out myself) are all no's. I don't laugh and handicapped people. I don't regulary drink 3 times a week, since I can only have carbs once every 4 days. I've never passed out in a bar. Never sell drugs. Never been stoned or drunk more than 48 hours. Never took anyone's virginity. I think everything else was a yes for me.
 
I said I would be going to hell if I didn't know Jesus. So you can figure it out. I was a bad person when I was younger why I don't know. Had a whacky dad and a great mom.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
The gay stuff, the necrophilia and beastility one, the one about being thrown out of a bar (I worked as a bouncer though and thrown peeps out and been in some bar fights, but never thrown out myself) are all no's. I don't laugh and handicapped people. I don't regulary drink 3 times a week, since I can only have carbs once every 4 days. I've never passed out in a bar. Never sell drugs. Never been stoned or drunk more than 48 hours. Never took anyone's virginity. I think everything else was a yes for me.


i forgot about the beast sex one - no for me. Same with do I drink 3 times a week. I probably scored the 205 cause I answered yes to all the drugs questions, mostly. :coffee:
 
Ok, I lied, I retook the test after thinking about it, and I lied on a few. My new score was 225, and I had several no's in there. Damn.
 
144.
the eyeball thing was GROSS
for those with the really high scores... did you answer yes to "did you ever have sex with the same sex"??????
cause if not, you musta answered yes to everything else!
i'm not going to hell though cause it doesn't exist. :-)
 
KillahBee said:
i forgot about the beast sex one - no for me. Same with do I drink 3 times a week. I probably scored the 205 cause I answered yes to all the drugs questions, mostly. :coffee:


No I responded to all the same ones with a yes plus BBF's and I still only got a 188.
 
becoming's avatar said:
144.
the eyeball thing was GROSS
for those with the really high scores... did you answer yes to "did you ever have sex with the same sex"??????
cause if not, you musta answered yes to everything else!
i'm not going to hell though cause it doesn't exist. :-)

nope - also answered no to about 3 other ?'s...
 
Well, I forgot yeah I have some porn laying around with chicks sucking off horses, and I did sell some of my gear once to a friend for alot more than I paid for it, and rebought all of it double with the money I got, so I did sell drugs once to support a drug habit. I realized I ahve laughed at a few handicapped people. Outside of the paying for sex, the taking someone's virginity and the gay stuff though, those were all yeses. Hmmmm... wow I always think I'm a pretty boring person...maybe that's why when I say that my friends all think its funny.
 
becoming's avatar said:
i'm not going to hell though cause it doesn't exist. :-)

You mean you hope it doesn't. Since no one knows what happens when you die. From the dumbest ignorant moron to the smartest intellectual in the world. Nobody knows what happens when you die. Nobody.
 
curling said:
You mean you hope it doesn't. Since no one knows what happens when you die. From the dumbest ignorant moron to the smartest intellectual in the world. Nobody knows what happens when you die. Nobody.

Maybe you don't but I do. You go in a coffin into a hole that is covered with dirt. Your body decomposes. Or you can be burned and your loved one can keep your ashes.
 
Delinquent said:
No I responded to all the same ones with a yes plus BBF's and I still only got a 188.

impossible. how many no's u have? I think I had 4 - beastsex, sell drugs for a habit, gay, eyeball.
 
If you watch, some of them are worth more points than others. The S&M one's, getting someone drunk to sleep with them, and some of the others are worth more points. Fuck...225. I had several no's and still got a 225.

Delinquint, you had to have some no's to some pretty big ones to get a 188.
 
KillahBee said:
Pretty much the only questions I answered no to were the gay thing and the eyeball thing. I think most people I went to college with would answer yes to the rest.
same here...219
 
damn, how are you guys getting these low scores? Have some of you not had kinky sex or ever used drugs?
 
curling said:
You hope it doesn't mean. Since no one knows what happens when you die. From the dumbest ignorant moron to the smartest intellectual in the world. Nobody knows what happens when you die. Nobody.

I dont believe there is a hell or a heaven.When you die there's nothing ,your gone and thats it.


http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/humftp/E-text/Russell/agnostic.htm


What Is an agnostic?
An agnostic thinks it impossible to know the truth in matters such as God and the future life with which Christianity and other religions are concerned. Or, if not impossible, at least impossible at the present time.
 
nvrbuffenuff_girl said:
Maybe you don't but I do. You go in a coffin into a hole that is covered with dirt. Your body decomposes. Or you can be burned and your loved one can keep your ashes.

That is your body. I am talking about your soul.
 
The ones I can remember to answering no to were the licking eyeball, same sex, The one about bondage, I've sold drugs but not for a habit
 
curling said:
You mean you hope it doesn't. Since no one knows what happens when you die. From the dumbest ignorant moron to the smartest intellectual in the world. Nobody knows what happens when you die. Nobody.

are you agnostic then?
 
deteras1 said:
I dont believe there is a hell or a heaven.When you die there's nothing ,your gone and thats it.


http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/humftp/E-text/Russell/agnostic.htm


What Is an agnostic?
An agnostic thinks it impossible to know the truth in matters such as God and the future life with which Christianity and other religions are concerned. Or, if not impossible, at least impossible at the present time.

It is impossible so aren't you taking a chance in not believing in something? Because the Bible(God's guide book to man) says it very cleary. The only way to escape Hell for the sins you commited is faith in Jesus Christ. There is no other way, period. If you are right I just die like you, if I am right you will be in hell for eternity. Since nobody like I said earlier and you know this too nobody really knows what happens when you die. Can you afford to take the view you're taking?
 
Delinquent said:
The ones I can remember to answering no to were the licking eyeball, same sex, The one about bondage, I've sold drugs but not for a habit

The bondage one is pretty big, and I think the selling drugs for habit was worth a few points also.
 
becoming's avatar said:
are you agnostic then?

I see why you would say that but no I am not. I am Christian. So I know what will happen to me because of faith. But since I haven't died I can't say for sure now can I? Noone can. That is why I think ya'll are taking a big chance by not accepting God's gift to you.
 
curling said:
It is impossible so aren't you taking a chance in not believing in something? Because the Bible(God's guide book to man) says it very cleary. The only way to escape Hell for the sins you commited is faith in Jesus Christ. There is no other way, period. If you are right I just die like you, if I am right you will be in hell for eternity. Since nobody like I said earlier and you know this too nobody really knows what happens when you die. Can you afford to take the view you're taking?

Well think about it.

I can't believe the crazy stories in the Bible actually happened so if there is a God is he going to punish me for not believing a book full of wild,unbelievable stories that none of us have any idea if they are true or not.
 
curling said:
It is impossible so aren't you taking a chance in not believing in something? Because the Bible(God's guide book to man) says it very cleary. The only way to escape Hell for the sins you commited is faith in Jesus Christ. There is no other way, period. If you are right I just die like you, if I am right you will be in hell for eternity. Since nobody like I said earlier and you know this too nobody really knows what happens when you die. Can you afford to take the view you're taking?

Do you think all animals go to hell because they are not christians, or all muslims, buddists? This religion wars are so idiotic, people killing each other because they read different books. Humans are so fucking self centered, why the fuck do you think a GOD would care if you, 1 out of several billion humans, said a prayer to him each night before bedtime. If there is a god, then he is a god for all people and all living things, not just to the humans that read and follow a certain book.

Make your own religion and live by that. Its as big a chance that yours is right as any of the others.
 
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curling said:
It is impossible so aren't you taking a chance in not believing in something? Because the Bible(God's guide book to man) says it very cleary. The only way to escape Hell for the sins you commited is faith in Jesus Christ. There is no other way, period. If you are right I just die like you, if I am right you will be in hell for eternity. Since nobody like I said earlier and you know this too nobody really knows what happens when you die. Can you afford to take the view you're taking?

i have no choice in what i can afford to believe in- i either believe it or i don't.. and i don't.
no more so than you can believe in peterpan just because it might benefit you. if you had grown up believing in it... its a lot easier to pass judgement on those that don't but without having lived their lives or having been taught what they were taught.. you don't know what you would think in their shoes.

When i die, i'm going to be creamated and put on the mantel so i can haunt my kids when they bring a date home that they know i wouldn't like.
other than that.... nothin'.
 
deteras1 said:
Well think about it.

I can't believe the crazy stories in the Bible actually happened so if there is a God is he going to punish me for not believing a book full of crazy stories that none of us have no idea that they are true?

Yep. His world His rules.
 
151 : You're enjoying life to the max


I didnt need some stupid test to tell me that.

and Ive already been to hell.. I had to drive through LA during rush hour (more like rush 4 hours)
 
becoming's avatar said:
i have no choice in what i can afford to believe in- i either believe it or i don't.. and i don't.
no more so than you can believe in peterpan just because it might benefit you. if you had grown up believing in it... its a lot easier to pass judgement on those that don't but without having lived their lives or having been taught what they were taught.. you don't know what you would think in their shoes.

When i die, i'm going to be creamated and put on the mantel so i can haunt my kids when they bring a date home that they know i wouldn't like.
other than that.... nothin'.

Have you prayed to God to show you that He is there and he has provided his Son for you? Inotherwords have you actively seeked God?
 
KillahBee said:
Pretty much the only questions I answered no to were the gay thing and the eyeball thing. I think most people I went to college with would answer yes to the rest.
208, I answered no to the gay question, paying for sex and selling drugs to support a drug habit
 
curling said:
Have you prayed to God to show you that He is there and he has provided his Son for you? Inotherwords have you actively seeked God?

i don't believe in god. i have no reason to pray.
 
curling said:
That is your body. I am talking about your soul.

There's no such thing as a soul. Human consciousness is just an organic brain function.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Wow, this thread too an interesting turn...

I am sorry to bring this stuff up. But you got to understand where I am coming from. Since I am Christian I do believe in Hell. Hell is no joke. The devil uses humor and other propaganda as a way to discount the eternal suffering of hell. Look at ACDC's song Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be and Highway to Hell. This band is trying to make hell look like a place to party. How can burning in brimstone be a good place to party? Hell is a lonely torturous place where one can't die for an enternity. And I don't want to see anyone I know here to go there.
 
Mr. dB said:
There's no such thing as a soul. Human consciousness is just an organic brain function.

'zackly.
btw, a real nun recently told me that if she had grown up in the way i had, she'd probably be an atheist too.
its a telling statement in the fact that she was raised a certain way, lived her events, and taught certain things, so thats what she grew into believing as an adult. I lived through a different course of actions and was taught something else (i was taught nothing actually), so the basis for my beliefs is as true to me as hers are to her.
I know a babtist preacher who i am very close with- he knows what i feel and why and respects me for it, as i respect his beliefs too.
 
becoming's avatar said:
'zackly.
btw, a real nun recently told me that if she had grown up in the way i had, she'd probably be an atheist too.
its a telling statement in the fact that she was raised a certain way, lived her events, and taught certain things, so thats what she grew into believing as an adult. I lived through a different course of actions and was taught something else (i was taught nothing actually), so the basis for my beliefs is as true to me as hers are to her.
I know a babtist preacher who i am very close with- he knows what i feel and why and respects me for it, as i respect his beliefs too.

Your're right it is harder to accept God as you age because the world teaches against God. But it is possible for adults to do so especially if they have alot of people praying for them. You have two people now that are. Your baptist preacher friend and me.
 
curling said:
Your're right it is harder to accept God as you age because the world teaches against God. But it is possible for adults to do so especially if they have alot of people praying for them. You have two people now that are. Your baptist preacher friend and me.

Do they let racist into heaven?
 
curling said:
Your're right it is harder to accept God as you age because the world teaches against God. But it is possible for adults to do so especially if they have alot of people praying for them. You have two people now that are. Your baptist preacher friend and me.

well.. thank you. i know that since praying means something to you, that its a nice gesture.
I don't ever remember believing in god so i don't see that changing anymore than you could see yourself turning jewish, but i appreciate the fact that you are wishing me to be 'saved', even if the whole concept means absolutely nothing to me.
i think my preacher friend is mostly praying he'll get into my pants one day, but he might be praying for the other thing too.
 
becoming's avatar said:
i think my preacher friend is mostly praying he'll get into my pants one day, but he might be praying for the other thing too.

Man, I hope that is not his intention if it is just remember he is a man like every other man. And he is not representing God if he tries to.

I ain't racist deteras.
 
curling said:
Man, I hope that is not his intention if it is just remember he is a man like every other man. And he is not representing God if he tries to.

I ain't racist deteras.

I'm not saying you are, but every southern born again christian i know, is.
I have no idea what part of the country you live in, but my sixth sense tells me its in the southern half of the country. am i right?
 
becoming's avatar said:
I'm not saying you are, but every southern born again christian i know, is.
I have no idea what part of the country you live in, but my sixth sense tells me its in the southern half of the country. am i right?

Yea, I am southern. But I don't judge a man by the color of skin that is pretty shallow. Matter of fact, I try not to judge anyone because that ain't my job.
 
Curling, you're rehashing something called "Pascal's Wager":

1) There's no God
a) you believe in Him
- you gain nothing.
b) you don't believe
- you lose nothing.

2) God exists
a) you believe in Him
- you gain Heaven.
b) you don't believe
- you go to Hell.

Therefore, you should always believe "to win the game."

Except:
1a) Means you are denying reality, which ultimately means you are insane.

2a) A just God could hate word games that deny the proper role of faith. Or, what if the real Architect of Reality has no relationship with that penny-ante Middle-Eastern volcano god, Yahweh, and is angry at YOUR failure to use His greatest gift, reason???

I think it justice would be served if He damned people for bothering His other creatures, who just want to be left alone. You think this is a Star Trek episode and He needs worship in order to recharge the batteries on his GameBoy or something??? That's an awfully petty view of Him.
 
digger said:
Curling, you're rehashing something called "Pascal's Wager":

1) There's no God
a) you believe in Him
- you gain nothing.
b) you don't believe
- you lose nothing.

2) God exists
a) you believe in Him
- you gain Heaven.
b) you don't believe
- you go to Hell.

Therefore, you should always believe "to win the game."

Except:
1a) Means you are denying reality, which ultimately means you are insane.

2a) A just God could hate word games that deny the proper role of faith. Or, what if the real Architect of Reality has no relationship with that penny-ante Middle-Eastern volcano god, Yahweh, and is angry at YOUR failure to use His greatest gift, reason???

I think it justice would be served if He damned people for bothering His other creatures, who just want to be left alone. You think this is a Star Trek episode and He needs worship in order to recharge the batteries on his GameBoy or something??? That's an awfully petty view of Him.

awesome digger.
i have another thought.. any 'god' that would damn me to hell because i don't believe in him, regardless of whether its because i wasn't taught to or because i have had some pretty serious incidences in my life that would make anyone question a 'higher being', sounds like an inconsiderate, controlling bully.
i'm sorry if i offended anyone with this btw. i know a lot of people feel strongly about their religion and i respect that and actually find it comforting.
 
digger said:
Curling, you're rehashing something called "Pascal's Wager":

1) There's no God
a) you believe in Him
- you gain nothing.
b) you don't believe
- you lose nothing.

2) God exists
a) you believe in Him
- you gain Heaven.
b) you don't believe
- you go to Hell.

Therefore, you should always believe "to win the game."

Yes, I have heard of pascals wager before. But it makes me mad because I though of it before I ever even heard of pascal.

Except:
1a) Means you are denying reality, which ultimately means you are insane.

Reality is that you are going to die. And it would be insane not to think there is something more to this world than what you see and know for sure.

2a) A just God could hate word games that deny the proper role of faith. Or, what if the real Architect of Reality has no relationship with that penny-ante Middle-Eastern volcano god, Yahweh, and is angry at YOUR failure to use His greatest gift, reason???

.

Well, do you not like to be recognized for the work you have done? Or do you not like to be thanked for things you have given others?

When you say architect do you believe their is a designer or creator of the universe?
 
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digger said:
Curling, you're rehashing something called "Pascal's Wager":

1) There's no God
1a) Means you are denying reality, which ultimately means you are insane.

And what is reality?
 
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curling said:
You mean you hope it doesn't. Since no one knows what happens when you die. From the dumbest ignorant moron to the smartest intellectual in the world. Nobody knows what happens when you die. Nobody.


exactly, so there's no point in wasting your life believing in fairytales. If there is a rational god, I'm sure he'd understand

I got a 116 btw. I think I am going to hell anyway :evil:
 
Pascal's Wager More in-depth

If I believe and God exists: I'll be happy for eternity = infinite gain.
If I believe and God does not exist: I've lost nothing and gained nothing.
If I do not believe and God exists: I'll be punished for eternity = infinite loss.
If I do not believe and God does not exist: I've lost nothing and gained nothing.

Therefore by believing I cannot lose anything, but I can win a lot. But by not believing I can lose a lot, but cannot win anything. So I'd better believe.

Is this a reasonable argument to believe in god? Is it flawless? Should we take the safe bet?

No. Let us examine the first point. We have no knowledge of the nature of this god. If the true god is Allah, just believing in him won't do the trick. You need to do more. Maybe the true god let's us reincarnate. Maybe the true god supports no afterlife. Maybe the true god does not care about belief or unbelief. Maybe the true god does not care about humans at all. If you believe in god and god exists, you're still not sure of infinite, or any, gain.

Worse, suppose that you believe in the wrong god. Suppose you believe in Jehovah and Allah is the true god. Man, you're going to be in trouble! And there are more than 5000 gods out there. Which is the true one? Which is the one in whom one should believe? You do not only need to believe in god, you must first find out what the true god is. Believing in the wrong god could be a disaster!

The second point is untrue also. If you spend your life worshipping a god, and he does not exist, you've lost a lot. Think of all the time lost in worship and devotion. You have wasted all you have, the few years of your life, to serve a lie. That is an incredible loss. Thus, two of Pascal's wager's premisses fail.

The third point is not valid either, for it too assumes that the god of the Universe is the Christian god Jehovah. Maybe the true god supports no hell. Maybe the true god is really merciful. Maybe he's a god of reason, and he thinks those who believe on faith are pathetic. Maybe none of the gods we know is true and we all are unbelievers; would we all end in hell? Maybe god does not care about humans and has made no afterlife. The third point is no more solid than the previous two.

The final point: the atheist who is right gains nothing. Is this true? The atheist who is right has been right. He has discovered truth. He has spent his time not in worship of an empty notion, but in doing useful things. If the world is a better place for the fact that he has lived, then he has all the gain he can wish for. And the devout believer who has prayed and preached and hoped and believed has lost his entire life. The atheist has gained nothing? The atheist has gained a lot. He alone was in the position to make the most of his life. Pascal's fourth point is no better than the others.

Pascal's wager betrays a deep scorn for truth. The one who brings this argument tells you not to believe because a god exists, but to believe because it could bring you pleasure in the future. Yet we believe things because we think they are true, not because we want them to be true. Using this 'reasoning' we would have to decide that we should believe in all the gods ever concieved, nay, in all the gods that are concievable and in addition in every other thing that could bring us pleasure if we believed in it. This is absurd, and the entire wager is a rape of Reason.

A final argument might be that it is impossible to believe something which you deep down know to be false. Therefore it is impossible to believe in god even if we wanted to, without serious avidence. So Pascal's Wager tells us to do something impossible, making it even more preposterous. (If you don't believe it's impossible to make yourself believe things, try believing that Odin is the One True God.)

taken from: http://www.positiveatheism.org/faq/pascal.htm
 
Do to current teachings I'm already destined to go there because of my denial of an afterlife, god and devil. Think last test said 6th level or circle?

This test I scored single digits

Since I'm having to read all of the junk to get here, if there is an afterlife I want it to be Valhala(sp).
 
The existence of a higher being has not been proven, which leads me to believe that it never will. For if this higher being does exist, he (if you will) could prove it at any time(I should think). What if you set out on a journey to try and find the creator and you actually did. Nooone would believe you. Perhaps this has happened to some, just a possibility.
 
Well we've had humans around and throughout the ages they worshipped gods to explain for things. Greek gods come to mind, Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, Aphrodite. Who's to say they don't exist instead of just one god? The problem with people involved in religion is they think their god(s) created everything there is and those who think otherwise are lesser people. The day I become religious is the day I put a .50 in my head.
 
Vash said:
Well we've had humans around and throughout the ages they worshipped gods to explain for things. Greek gods come to mind, Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, Aphrodite. Who's to say they don't exist instead of just one god? The problem with people involved in religion is they think their god(s) created everything there is and those who think otherwise are lesser people. The day I become religious is the day I put a .50 in my head.

They or the ruling establishment created these gods and not the other way around. If you want to know if there is a god,( most would not take a chance to waste their time), seek and maybe you will find.
 
UAiron, there are many flaws in the post you posted from the atheist web site. When I get time I will rebute them.
 
curling said:
UAiron, there are many flaws in the post you posted from the atheist web site. When I get time I will rebute them.

Suuuuuuuuure you will... by sticking your fingers in your ears and going "neener neener neener, I don't agree so it's not so...."

By the way, Yahweh (Jehovah) and Allah are supposed to be the same Guy.

Then again, both sides in Ireland are fighting over historical accidents that only incidentally involve the worship of Jesus... the same name even. Feh.
 
digger said:
Suuuuuuuuure you will... by sticking your fingers in your ears and going "neener neener neener, I don't agree so it's not so...."

By the way, Yahweh (Jehovah) and Allah are supposed to be the same Guy.

Then again, both sides in Ireland are fighting over historical accidents that only incidentally involve the worship of Jesus... the same name even. Feh.

Digger, you forgot to tell him "rebute" is not a word.. :)

Anyway, what did you score hmm?
 
4,

even a life with the church is too corrupt for me, it says.

all i've done is: laugh at someones misfortune, laugh at a handicap person, and try alcohol.

but in any case, like curling says, Jesus saves all.
 
fyxgel2 said:
4,

even a life with the church is too corrupt for me, it says.

all i've done is: laugh at someones misfortune, laugh at a handicap person, and try alcohol.

but in any case, like curling says, Jesus saves all.

Aer you serious when you say you scored a 4?
 
fyxgel2 said:
4,

even a life with the church is too corrupt for me, it says.

all i've done is: laugh at someones misfortune, laugh at a handicap person, and try alcohol.

but in any case, like curling says, Jesus saves all.

That is pretty good. Just curious how old are you?
 
Delinquent said:
Aer you serious when you say you scored a 4?
thats impossible!
unless she's a virgin?
 
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