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i this all the time, everywhere. some hot ass girl going out with some out of shape, butt ugly guy driving a beaten up vehicle. what the fuck do these guys have that i dont?
are women blind?
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Personality? Caring? Loving? Understanding? Friendship? Kindness? Smart? Funny? Offer a sense of security?
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Maybe they like those type of guys because the hot girls know those guys won't cheat/leave her. Plus they are probably so grateful to be dating a hot chick that they'll do just about anything to please them.
This is Chat Board material - move it there.
To answer your question, I help train guys in techniques to meet and seduce women. You are using a "man's" way of evaluating a potential sex partner, which is quite different from the way that a lot of women judge such things.
Sure, women must be attracted to a man on some level, and the more attractive he is, the better.
However, a woman's overall asessment of how desireable a man is can, and in most cases is, based upon much more than just his looks.
Plus, women will go so far as to actually believe that an otherwise (physically) unattractive man, who has a lot of OTHER great qualities, actually IS physically attractive.
Great example - women will look at some Star, or Performer, who is UGLY, but she "sees" him as attractive.
Or, she will talk to a man who is otherwise not attractive, but the way he talks, what he says, what he asks, how he expresses himself ...... this make her become attracted to him.
And that WORKs. Trust me. We teach men how to do it all the time. Its a different way of think about the entire subject, but its very effective.
To answer your question, I help train guys in techniques to meet and seduce women. You are using a "man's" way of evaluating a potential sex partner, which is quite different from the way that a lot of women judge such things.
Sure, women must be attracted to a man on some level, and the more attractive he is, the better.
However, a woman's overall asessment of how desireable a man is can, and in most cases is, based upon much more than just his looks.
Plus, women will go so far as to actually believe that an otherwise (physically) unattractive man, who has a lot of OTHER great qualities, actually IS physically attractive.
Great example - women will look at some Star, or Performer, who is UGLY, but she "sees" him as attractive.
Or, she will talk to a man who is otherwise not attractive, but the way he talks, what he says, what he asks, how he expresses himself ...... this make her become attracted to him.
And that WORKs. Trust me. We teach men how to do it all the time. Its a different way of think about the entire subject, but its very effective.
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Punt said:
Well, I won't get into details here. It takes a while, and it requires that a man be really ready to seriously learn something, and change the way he thinks about women and communicates with them.
I am not being evasive, I am just being honest. Its not about "say this line and get laid" (LOL - we laugh at those people who teach that crap).
Lets put it this way.
Women know that men respond to visual stuff - a lot. The overal sense of a man "being attracted" to a woman is VERY effected by what he sees. So, you see women making a big effort to maximize their looks. What they wear, how they wear it, their makeup, hair, etc. Women are TAUGHT how to maximize what they have so that it LOOKs more appealing.
What most men dont realize is that for women, (much more so than men) what they hear, feel, sense, are all AS (and in many cases more) imprtant to them than what they SEE.
So, if you take the time to learn how to speak well, communicate, not only HOW but WHAT to talk about, your overall "appeal" to women goes WAY up.
Yeah, basically communication skills. You need to maintain a lot of eye contact with women. And actually listen, even if you are repeating back to them clarification or a summary of what they said. Guys can hold conversations while playing basketball and really don't maintain a lot of eye contact, so this can be hard to do. So basically, talk less about yourself,ask questions about her and just be honest and straight with her.
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Riker29 said:
Riker29 You forgot to mention that materialistic considerations are VERY important to women. How much money you earn, what kind of car you drive is given great weight. For a guy, if a woman is hot and has big breats then the boys are not too worried about whether she arrived in a BMW or an old Honda.
In my interractions with women i've been noticeably snubbed for being 27 and still at university. I currently spend a lot of time around gay men and have never had this problem. They seem far more interested in my large pecs, LOL.
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Well it is AN issue, but not overwhelming. That is a quick way of her making an evaluation, and in a LOT of cases it can be overcome by the correct approach.
The thing is if you play the game their way, you play by their rules. Change the rules .. play a different game ...... and get results.
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Just to be a bit cynical here, Often if you are well-adjusted Mr. Right you will scare women away. Most people (esp. women in regards to romance) like to make things difficult for themselves. In this sense an arrogant, stuck-up jerk (which is often confused with confidence by women) will get women swooning. Perhaps they are seeking to recreate a piece of their own confused emotionally repressed father, so Mr. Well-adjusted doesn't appeal.
Can I also suggest that if you stop using "techniques" to get women and be yourself instead - then you'll have more luck. It is often male anxiety around women which scares them off. You've managed to attract male friends, right? I rest my case. (NB: this isn't meant to be critical of what you are doing as some guys really do need this help.)
I grew up as an only boy in a family of sisters. It often strikes me how inept some guys are when they haven't had this contact with women. This is true especially of guys who have had only brothers.
Just my observations
p.s. If you really want to attract (some) women, tell them you're gay. You'll be fighting them off. For some women bedding a gay man is a huge conquest and boost to their self-esteem. (This really is true).
Can I also suggest that if you stop using "techniques" to get women and be yourself instead - then you'll have more luck. It is often male anxiety around women which scares them off. You've managed to attract male friends, right? I rest my case. (NB: this isn't meant to be critical of what you are doing as some guys really do need this help.)
I grew up as an only boy in a family of sisters. It often strikes me how inept some guys are when they haven't had this contact with women. This is true especially of guys who have had only brothers.
Just my observations
p.s. If you really want to attract (some) women, tell them you're gay. You'll be fighting them off. For some women bedding a gay man is a huge conquest and boost to their self-esteem. (This really is true).
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genarr3 said:
My thoughts exactly.
genarr3 said:
Agreed. I am a sucker for the petite, innocent, almost nerdy types..I've discovered on top of bieng great and appreciative partners, they are actually secretly extremely horny.
I've never had sex with a non-virgin, It's an obsession with me..It's something I need to get over because that isn't going to fly when I get older
. I'm in my early 20's now so I can still get my way.
maybe I'm a jerk or whatever.. just seems like too much work. I would rather be with the girls who are shallow "When you see the semen i'm leaving!" you don't feel that bad when you split.
I guess i've been in long relationships and appreciate the quickie.
I enjoy physical realtionships with no strings attached. Seems to me every girl that I get along with wants to control at least some aspect of my life.
I guess i've been in long relationships and appreciate the quickie.
I enjoy physical realtionships with no strings attached. Seems to me every girl that I get along with wants to control at least some aspect of my life.
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I've never had sex with a non-virgin, It's an obsession with me..It's something I need to get over because that isn't going to fly when I get older
Uhhh virginz Im 20 and I think those days are long gone unless I wanna go 2 jail. Those dayz were the greatest. High School. It was competition.You had to scoop those babies up while they were still fresh. Virgin girls in high school justed wanted to get in the game but they really had no Idea of how the rules worked or how it was played.
Lets just take a quick moment of silence for all the virgins we had and all the once we might of missed because of the black kid in class with the 12". Those days are long gone
<~~~~~~~~~Voted class devirginizer of 99
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Maybe geeks are their fetish.
Oh well.
Oh well.
Silent Method
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On the other hand, commitment requires some attatched strings. Otherwise it would not be commitment.
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Just open your damn mouth and speak to the ladies. Every girl that you see talk to them. You may get shot down 9 times out of 10 but that one time you WILL get laid.
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Silent Method said:
Hmmm, if those "attached strings" have anything to do with ownership and control then that isn't commitment. However, 95% of people have such attitudes which goes a great way towards explanating the dysfunctionality in relationships.
Commitment isn't about putting people in a cage. People often use ownership and control as a substitute for genuine commitment.
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HansNZ said:
True. Commitment should be volunterrily in a relationship, not forced upon someone. Making someone commited to you, will more than likely make them less committed.
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rodd45 said:
This is a similar observation to the one i made in my post.
If you are a nice well adjusted guy that can work against you. So many people seek to make things hard for themselves so they'd be more attracted to a jerk.
My sister says she wants a warm caring guy. Yet the men she goes for are always cold and emotionally repressed. She says she wants a stable relationship. Yet whenever things are going well she introduces conflict into the relationship.
What she consciously says she wants isn't what she subconsciously believes is possible. So she quite unconsciously seeks out bad partners and introduces conflict into her relationships but doesn't seem aware that she is doing this.
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This is dead on.HansNZ said:
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depressive SP juicer said:
HansNZ was close. The out of shape, butt ugly guy probably IS her father. Do you live the mountains of say West Virginia by any chance?
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