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Apparently I was wrong about dbol only cycles

I've never had sexual sides from anything and I've run just about everything with and without test (deca alond, dbol alone, fina/dbol no test). I really tend not to like test. I've run it alone and even at fairly high dosages, I don't get much anabolic activity and mainly sides and a fairly good CNS stimulation. I'd put my gains on 400mg of deca up against a gram of test any day but not everyone responds this way. It works very well in a stack at 200-400mg weekly for me though but as the sole or major compound - it blows. I can't really complain though, I can gain very well off just about anything else even at marginal dosages.

I've watched a lot of people run dbol alone and I've never heard of anyone getting major sex drive loss. I mean, you read this board and get the feeling that if you aren't running test with everything out there your dick will curl up forever but that hasn't been the case for me nor anyone I know of using dbol and given the fairly large amount of pre-1995 literature out there regarding dbol use, I never saw it even referenced before these boards. So I'd venture, there might be some real effect in some individuals due to an inability to use the dbol molecule adequately but serious sexual sides from dbol alone are either very rare or largely placebo.

Like in everything else, knowing what works for you is the key. It doesn't matter how things work for everyone else (except if you believe your body is totally defying human chemistry - in which case you need to come down to earth). People's responses to these things have a fairly wide varriance and it's not like there aren't a ton of other factors at play.
 
Madcow2 said:
I've never had sexual sides from anything and I've run just about everything with and without test (deca alond, dbol alone, fina/dbol no test). I really tend not to like test. I've run it alone and even at fairly high dosages, I don't get much anabolic activity and mainly sides and a fairly good CNS stimulation. I'd put my gains on 400mg of deca up against a gram of test any day but not everyone responds this way. It works very well in a stack at 200-400mg weekly for me though but as the sole or major compound - it blows. I can't really complain though, I can gain very well off just about anything else even at marginal dosages.

I've watched a lot of people run dbol alone and I've never heard of anyone getting major sex drive loss. I mean, you read this board and get the feeling that if you aren't running test with everything out there your dick will curl up forever but that hasn't been the case for me nor anyone I know of using dbol and given the fairly large amount of pre-1995 literature out there regarding dbol use, I never saw it even referenced before these boards. So I'd venture, there might be some real effect in some individuals due to an inability to use the dbol molecule adequately but serious sexual sides from dbol alone are either very rare or largely placebo.

Like in everything else, knowing what works for you is the key. It doesn't matter how things work for everyone else (except if you believe your body is totally defying human chemistry - in which case you need to come down to earth). People's responses to these things have a fairly wide varriance and it's not like there aren't a ton of other factors at play.

Thanks bro, I agree reactions are different person to person but do you know if a lift in libido is to be expected from dbol as the norm? I'm hearing differing views. I would have thought so due to it being a heavy androgen but I imagine in the later weeks of the cycle estradiol elevates (if not kept in check) so the opposite would eventually occur (?)
 
sigmund said:
For those who've done dbol only - how was your sex drive? ...initially high but then dropped alot???


first i dont weight 160lbs bro....you need to train natural longer from the looks of it
 
sigmund said:
Thanks bro, I agree reactions are different person to person but do you know if a lift in libido is to be expected from dbol as the norm? I'm hearing differing views. I would have thought so due to it being a heavy androgen but I imagine in the later weeks of the cycle estradiol elevates (if not kept in check) so the opposite would eventually occur (?)
I really don't know. When I used dbol alone, I never generally used it for more than 6 weeks and I respond well to low dosages. I honestly never heard the complaint from anyone using it or who had used it for longer and higher dosages. In fact, everyone here runs test with it or a boatload of other stuff so there's really nothing to pull from. My feeling is that if there is a possibility, it will be either rare or not a major deal (like needing a few extra strokes - vulgar but I don't know how else to put it). Personally, I know how I respond and I wouldn't worry if I were to use it. I can't really make the claim for anyone else other than that historically there sure haven't been many complaints and I don't believe it was ever significant enough under controlled conditions to bother listing as a precaution.
 
bicepts101 said:
first i dont weight 160lbs bro....you need to train natural longer from the looks of it


i'm 31 years old and i started weight training in high school, so on and off and lot's of leason's learned i have been at it for 15 years. like i said before i am not a big person, i don't have good genetics and i have a hard time gaining. i am to the point where i am beating up on my body and inching forward so that is why i decided to go this route.
 
kahbab said:
i'm 31 years old and i started weight training in high school, so on and off and lot's of leason's learned i have been at it for 15 years. like i said before i am not a big person, i don't have good genetics and i have a hard time gaining. i am to the point where i am beating up on my body and inching forward so that is why i decided to go this route.


have you opted to look further into your diet and training...15 years of training is a lot bro...im sure there is some glitch you havnt seen or are avoiding...
 
bicepts101 said:
have you opted to look further into your diet and training...15 years of training is a lot bro...im sure there is some glitch you havnt seen or are avoiding...


of course there are always some glitch's and always more to learn but i am doing a lot right. i am in the best shape of my life so far and i owe that to proper diet which i am finally getting a handle on. i used to over train badly but i don't any more, i never did legs and now i do. i made the same mistakes most newbies made but my act is clean now, like i said before i am not pre-dispostioned to be a big person at all but i love being in the gym training so i will not give up.
 
my first cycle was d-bol only, when I was 22(weighing ~200lbs) . I started w/ 3/d and ended after six weeks in 6/d. Gain was something like 12lbs from which I hold ~8lbs and decreased some bf. I guess it was the placebo effect that gave me little extra in sex drive, and had no problems w/ my dick or sex drive after cycle. Pct was hcg and clomid.
 
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