Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I did, and I am still struggling. I was raised by my mom and I remember being of free lunches at school and food stamps growing up. Kind of funny, people that are born with a silver spoon in their mouths never have any respect for material goods. And I am a republican, so it is obvious I see right through the bullshit of our party catering to the rich. The there is RyanH, born rich, still rich and holds a grudge against the rich. Ryan, if you only knew what it was like to not get your first car till you were 21. Or going to work when dying from some sickness cause you need the money to pay bills.
Anyone here grow up poor?
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Kakdiesel
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I was poor when i was little..when my dad first came to this country he didnt have any education or nothing..so we lived in this shack downtown of our town of 1400 people and he use to walk to work.
he got a job as an upholsterer (furniture and automobile)..i dont remember but I saw pics of inside of our house and what me and my family looked like back then...but then he just kept saving money and working hard and now we're ok.
but I know what you mean MP5, my dad values everything. He knows what its like to be hungry and poor..when I use to spill my glass of milk on the dinner table, he'd be countin the drops of milk fallin onto the floor: "Thats two cents, four cents five cents...."
he got a job as an upholsterer (furniture and automobile)..i dont remember but I saw pics of inside of our house and what me and my family looked like back then...but then he just kept saving money and working hard and now we're ok.
but I know what you mean MP5, my dad values everything. He knows what its like to be hungry and poor..when I use to spill my glass of milk on the dinner table, he'd be countin the drops of milk fallin onto the floor: "Thats two cents, four cents five cents...."
strongchick
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I grew up upper middle class but I am middle class now and I am slipping slowly but surely to lower middle class.
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bigpimp
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MP5 said:
totally agree bro...but one thing is i loved those free lunches
yeah, MP, i know what you mean. i still have vivid memories of hand me down clothes, black & white tv's, lots of red beans & rice and tuna on a shingle. i paid my own way through college and still cringe as i scan the prices at the meat counter at winn dixie. it does affect your outlook on life, doesn't it? when i see how some of my friends blow money like a drunken sailor on burbon street, it irritates me.
.........but i'd rather be poor?
ryan, i gotta call bullshit on this. NOBODY would rather be poor. i'll swap lifestyles and checking account balances
with you in a heartbeat.
how about you mp? wanna swap with the poor little rich boy and experience life on the other side of the tracks?
ryan, i gotta call bullshit on this. NOBODY would rather be poor. i'll swap lifestyles and checking account balances
with you in a heartbeat.
how about you mp? wanna swap with the poor little rich boy and experience life on the other side of the tracks?
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Warik
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RyanH said:
Oh?
RyanH said:
Why? Why don't you give it to the poor who want to be wealthy (i.e. the smart poor people). That way, you'd be helping the poor AND you'd be poor yourself. But no... let's save that "evil" money.
How silly.
-Warik
conan69
New member
Very poor, very very poor
thats why i moved out when i gratuated HS (17)
now, at 22
I have an absolutely enourmous APT
I have a BMW 528i
I have a pug and a $2000 bulldog
DVD players in my house and car
Multiple TVS
2 Computers
Vacations all the time
(cruises...ect)
spend probably 10K a year on Gear and related expenses
BOY i cant wait to get out of college and start making some real money
but poor sucked
i am still poor but i am moving my way up the line
ON MY OWN, NOT LIKE THESE TRUST FUND BABIES
thats why i moved out when i gratuated HS (17)
now, at 22
I have an absolutely enourmous APT
I have a BMW 528i
I have a pug and a $2000 bulldog
DVD players in my house and car
Multiple TVS
2 Computers
Vacations all the time
(cruises...ect)
spend probably 10K a year on Gear and related expenses
BOY i cant wait to get out of college and start making some real money
but poor sucked
i am still poor but i am moving my way up the line
ON MY OWN, NOT LIKE THESE TRUST FUND BABIES
conan69
New member
supergirl said:i wanna be like conan when i grow up.. i want a dvd player in my beamer too!!! And i want to travel more than i already do!!! And i want a $3000 mastif!!! And i will have trust fund babies one day
dont worry i am currently looking for a Mastiff
actually a Bordeax Mastiff (turner and hooch)
the english's are two skinny
the neos are a little two tall
the bullmastiffs are big enough
but the bordeax is perfect
oh btw i dont want children
i am no role model
and i will never put my kid through what i went through
no chances on that one
smallmovesal
New member
i'm middle class... it wasn't until i was older that i realised how much my parents had to save to give us all the things we had as kids. when i was younger we lived off of one income for 5 people.
strongchick
Well-known member
I just want free creatine, protein, and starting one year from now, free anavar, for life.
And if I could figure out a way to workout twice a day and get paid a living wage for it....
...being rich just wouldn't matter.
And if I could figure out a way to workout twice a day and get paid a living wage for it....
...being rich just wouldn't matter.
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Frackal
Guest
Damn Ryan, I try to respect your opinions, but this time you're fuckin' full of SHIT.
Money causes problems too? Yeah, like the horrid dilemnas of whether to own a Mercedes or a BMW.
Here, I'll trade you. Give your money to me and we'll both be happy.
Money causes problems too? Yeah, like the horrid dilemnas of whether to own a Mercedes or a BMW.
Here, I'll trade you. Give your money to me and we'll both be happy.
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ryker77
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I grew up poor enough to learn the value of hard work. So from my 16th birthday till now I have worked full time. Not once since I turned 16 have I had to ask for help from my partents or anyone else.
I am thankfull for my poor childhood. It installed some good values in me. So now I have as much or more than most of the one I went to school with.
I am thankfull for my poor childhood. It installed some good values in me. So now I have as much or more than most of the one I went to school with.
Lil Juicer
New member
I guess I grew up in a "wealthy class" but nothing was ever given to me (except my car). My parents made sure I was greatful for everthing we had because when they where young they had little to no money at all. And they made me appreciate the type of life I was raised in.
Bikini Mod
New member
When we were little there were a lot of church and other peoples' hand-me-downs...and we were happy to get those!
As we got a little older things got better financially, but if there is one thing that my parents taught me (well, my mother anyways) was how to stretch a dollar. I remember her often times going through my father's pockets as he was in bed, passed out drunk from a night being the "big man at the bar with the boys" so that the mortgage and bills could be paid with what was left over. Now THAT was fucked up.
I always said that if I can't make AT LEAST HALF of what my old man pissed away (both my parents were off the boat and could not speak a word of english when they got here) then there is SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME. I was born here. I can speak the language. And I was able to put myself through 2 years of college (didn't finish, got married instead...but that is a whole nuther thread).
No offense Ryan, I can kind of understand how it must have been difficult to grow up void of "normal values"...but please don't sit there and say that you would rather be poor. That is out and out bullshit! Do I ever want to be sooooooo wealthy that my children will have fucked up values (ie.."do people REALLY like me for me...or is it because of my money?")? Actually, NO. I only want enough money to buy what me and my girls need and sometimes want, and enough for me not have to worry about depending on my children to care for me when they will be at an age where they should be having their own lives.
As we got a little older things got better financially, but if there is one thing that my parents taught me (well, my mother anyways) was how to stretch a dollar. I remember her often times going through my father's pockets as he was in bed, passed out drunk from a night being the "big man at the bar with the boys" so that the mortgage and bills could be paid with what was left over. Now THAT was fucked up.
I always said that if I can't make AT LEAST HALF of what my old man pissed away (both my parents were off the boat and could not speak a word of english when they got here) then there is SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME. I was born here. I can speak the language. And I was able to put myself through 2 years of college (didn't finish, got married instead...but that is a whole nuther thread).
No offense Ryan, I can kind of understand how it must have been difficult to grow up void of "normal values"...but please don't sit there and say that you would rather be poor. That is out and out bullshit! Do I ever want to be sooooooo wealthy that my children will have fucked up values (ie.."do people REALLY like me for me...or is it because of my money?")? Actually, NO. I only want enough money to buy what me and my girls need and sometimes want, and enough for me not have to worry about depending on my children to care for me when they will be at an age where they should be having their own lives.
conan69 said:
Conan...I guess compared to a Bordeaux the English are a little skinny. The Bordeaux just has to much bulldog look to him for my tastes. I raise English which is why I am partial to them. I am tryin to set up a breeder/kennal operation on the side. We are not going to have a new litter till January unfortunately. When we do they are gonna be the dark brindle (black) ones that are hard to find. Beautiful animals
BTW...bikinimom...I love your posts
The Ranger
New member
Yup....Very much so,
Both parents were disabled early from hard work...we grew veggies out of the garden, raised cows, chickens...etc.
I never once went hungry, but never had any extra either. We learned at an early age not to ask for things, simply because we knew my parents couldn't afford them, and I know now it had to hurt them as much as it hurt us....
One Christmas we got a new roof for the house, kinda sucked, but life went on. Got made fun of in school alot, simply because of the older clothes we wore, and most of this came from the " Country Club " kids....
Heh heh heh.....BUT, guess what, when we put on our football uniforms....we all looked alike, and that is when paybacks came into fashion for me.....
No offense RyanH, but there is nothing like looking down at a rich kid, with his eyes rolled back in his head, and blowing snot bubbles from the ass rocking hit you just put on him......Now they're all fat rich drunks with rude kids, fake wives, and miserable existence....
I still think I got it pretty good...and wouldn't trade with them, then or now for that matter....
Peace,
Ranger
Both parents were disabled early from hard work...we grew veggies out of the garden, raised cows, chickens...etc.
I never once went hungry, but never had any extra either. We learned at an early age not to ask for things, simply because we knew my parents couldn't afford them, and I know now it had to hurt them as much as it hurt us....
One Christmas we got a new roof for the house, kinda sucked, but life went on. Got made fun of in school alot, simply because of the older clothes we wore, and most of this came from the " Country Club " kids....
Heh heh heh.....BUT, guess what, when we put on our football uniforms....we all looked alike, and that is when paybacks came into fashion for me.....
No offense RyanH, but there is nothing like looking down at a rich kid, with his eyes rolled back in his head, and blowing snot bubbles from the ass rocking hit you just put on him......Now they're all fat rich drunks with rude kids, fake wives, and miserable existence....
I still think I got it pretty good...and wouldn't trade with them, then or now for that matter....
Peace,
Ranger
Rex
New member
Like ryker I grew up poor enough to learn the value of hard work and to know that I'm not getting anything I want without working for it. I also learned that I don't need a huge house, fancy new car, and being waiting on hand and foot 24 hours a day to be happy.
I think Ryan has been listening to Puff Daddy too much lately. "Mo money mo problems" seems to be the outlook you have. Complete and total bullshit. It must be so rough getting whatever you want on a whim.
Give me all your money and go live in my old neighborhood, then tell me if you like it. Its the story of the poor little rich boy.
I think Ryan has been listening to Puff Daddy too much lately. "Mo money mo problems" seems to be the outlook you have. Complete and total bullshit. It must be so rough getting whatever you want on a whim.
Give me all your money and go live in my old neighborhood, then tell me if you like it. Its the story of the poor little rich boy.
HappyScrappy
New member
I remember going to school lunch with checks (for $1) from my mom, and then the checks would bounce (must have obviously been later, but looking back on it, the lunch ladies always treated me differently). I didn't know what that meant, but I know my mom cried a lot about it.
Then she/we went on welfare - more crying.
for several years I was the only kid that didn't even have a tv at school - even the REALLY poor rednecks that lived out in the equivalent of pojects had tvs. so when people asked me if I saw xyz on tv, I'd just lie and say yeah, it was great - even though I had no idea what they were talking about. (the first time someone asked me and I said that I didn't have a tv, you would have thought that I had just screamed out that I was going to murder the president)
I had legos and a radio, that was all I had (and I think 2 GIJoes). the radio could play tapes and I thought that was the coolest thing ever, and that was when I got into the beatles. I listened to them so much that the tapes erased themselves eventually...
all of my friends were rich... well, in my eyes everyone was rich. I'd spend most of the time at their places and I think I can count on one hand the times anyone ever came to anywhere I ever lived. I'd try to get dinner at their house, and then come back and have whatever we had at our place (it was just my mom and I).
I was always really tall for my age - 2nd grade was the first time I was taller than my teacher, and then every year after that was. in 8th grade was 6' and probably 120lbs. I got beat up all the time by all the groups - the poor rednecks, the rich white kids, the blacks, the hispanics. the only ones that never beat me up were the asian kids that always would transfer away after being at school for two weeks or so.
I could go on forever about this, but everyone... well, most everyone, goes through tough times. my dad was a professor when I lived with him and I currently make more (2X) than he did back them.
I went to college with kids that had $50 million trust funds - the CEO of coke, his son was there. The Owner of Putman investments, lived in the same suite as my best friend. The CEO of Bank One.... etc etc etc.
For the most part, they were all assholes.
My parents each make over $100K now, so they aren't rich by the standards of the kids I went to school with, but they have more money now than they ever did when I lived with them (both of them started making decent money in '99 - the year I graduated).
If I had to do it again, it would be hard to say if I would or not. everything about the life I lived sucked and I was constatnly embarassed about it, but now that I've met so many dicks that grew up rich... I don't know.
I'm not sure if it is the parenting, or that rich people tend to be more absorbed in their work and not in their kids.... I don't know.
Jackass is on, gotta run.
Then she/we went on welfare - more crying.
for several years I was the only kid that didn't even have a tv at school - even the REALLY poor rednecks that lived out in the equivalent of pojects had tvs. so when people asked me if I saw xyz on tv, I'd just lie and say yeah, it was great - even though I had no idea what they were talking about. (the first time someone asked me and I said that I didn't have a tv, you would have thought that I had just screamed out that I was going to murder the president)
I had legos and a radio, that was all I had (and I think 2 GIJoes). the radio could play tapes and I thought that was the coolest thing ever, and that was when I got into the beatles. I listened to them so much that the tapes erased themselves eventually...
all of my friends were rich... well, in my eyes everyone was rich. I'd spend most of the time at their places and I think I can count on one hand the times anyone ever came to anywhere I ever lived. I'd try to get dinner at their house, and then come back and have whatever we had at our place (it was just my mom and I).
I was always really tall for my age - 2nd grade was the first time I was taller than my teacher, and then every year after that was. in 8th grade was 6' and probably 120lbs. I got beat up all the time by all the groups - the poor rednecks, the rich white kids, the blacks, the hispanics. the only ones that never beat me up were the asian kids that always would transfer away after being at school for two weeks or so.
I could go on forever about this, but everyone... well, most everyone, goes through tough times. my dad was a professor when I lived with him and I currently make more (2X) than he did back them.
I went to college with kids that had $50 million trust funds - the CEO of coke, his son was there. The Owner of Putman investments, lived in the same suite as my best friend. The CEO of Bank One.... etc etc etc.
For the most part, they were all assholes.
My parents each make over $100K now, so they aren't rich by the standards of the kids I went to school with, but they have more money now than they ever did when I lived with them (both of them started making decent money in '99 - the year I graduated).
If I had to do it again, it would be hard to say if I would or not. everything about the life I lived sucked and I was constatnly embarassed about it, but now that I've met so many dicks that grew up rich... I don't know.
I'm not sure if it is the parenting, or that rich people tend to be more absorbed in their work and not in their kids.... I don't know.
Jackass is on, gotta run.
Milhouse
New member
Well I can top everyone here. When I was growing up we were so poor, that everynight for supper we had whatever my dad stole from work for our supper. Problem was he worked at the toy factory. Know what it's like to eat all the pieces off the monopoly board? Everytime I see that fucking shoe I throw up. How about slinkies for lunch? Shit I still have that song in my head "It's slinky, it's slinky, it is a wonderful toy, its slinky its skinky it is for a girl or a boy" Yep and it made a good dinner too.
(Apologies to Eddie Murphy)
All kidding aside we grew up between poor and middle class. I didnt get the hand me downs because I was the oldest, so basically I was the one who got the husky pants and then when they wore down I got the first set of patched then the younger ones got my hand me downs
My Dad and Mon were divorced and they made sure we had food on the table and clothes on thier back. I have 2 brothers, one(the middle one) is a jackass who used his growing up as an excuse to do fuck all with his life, my youngest grew up during the time my dad got prosperous and became a millionaire from scratch(took him over 30 years, a high school education and many setbacks) Today I dont get any of those perks but thats ok. I am in the same biz as the old man and started from scratch just like him and am gradually getting more well off.
Does money buy happiness? Nope but having no money doesnt buy happiness either. The only thing money does is make life's problems a little cheaper to deal with.
Anf for the rich little brats who would rather be poor, well if you hate money so much take it and give half of it away, not 10 years from now once you are comfortable but NOW! If not then shut the fuck up about wishing you were poor, you insult and demean the people who are in a legitamate paycheck to paycheck struggle.
(Apologies to Eddie Murphy)
All kidding aside we grew up between poor and middle class. I didnt get the hand me downs because I was the oldest, so basically I was the one who got the husky pants and then when they wore down I got the first set of patched then the younger ones got my hand me downs
My Dad and Mon were divorced and they made sure we had food on the table and clothes on thier back. I have 2 brothers, one(the middle one) is a jackass who used his growing up as an excuse to do fuck all with his life, my youngest grew up during the time my dad got prosperous and became a millionaire from scratch(took him over 30 years, a high school education and many setbacks) Today I dont get any of those perks but thats ok. I am in the same biz as the old man and started from scratch just like him and am gradually getting more well off.
Does money buy happiness? Nope but having no money doesnt buy happiness either. The only thing money does is make life's problems a little cheaper to deal with.
Anf for the rich little brats who would rather be poor, well if you hate money so much take it and give half of it away, not 10 years from now once you are comfortable but NOW! If not then shut the fuck up about wishing you were poor, you insult and demean the people who are in a legitamate paycheck to paycheck struggle.
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plifter
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I grew up middle class. My dad could have spent more money on me but he chose not to. He never bought me a car or anyhting like that but he put me through college. I didn't own my own car until I was 23.
M
May1010
Guest
MP5,
You grew up poor and are still struggling? Boo hoo! You haven't paid your dues yet. Besides, it's always going to be a struggle. I'm struggling myself but I don't whine about not having enough money. I've got a roof over my head, plenty of food to eat, a car to drive, and clothes on my back. That's a hell of a lot more than 99.9% of the people on earth have.
Happy Scrappy,
Your story about your mom writing a check for $1 for your school lunch and then the check bouncing was the most pitiful thing I've ever read. That must have been horrible for your mom. Life gets better though, doesn't it?
You grew up poor and are still struggling? Boo hoo! You haven't paid your dues yet. Besides, it's always going to be a struggle. I'm struggling myself but I don't whine about not having enough money. I've got a roof over my head, plenty of food to eat, a car to drive, and clothes on my back. That's a hell of a lot more than 99.9% of the people on earth have.
Happy Scrappy,
Your story about your mom writing a check for $1 for your school lunch and then the check bouncing was the most pitiful thing I've ever read. That must have been horrible for your mom. Life gets better though, doesn't it?
FrankRizzo
New member
Yeah I grew up poor, and the worst kind too. Wasn't that my old man had no oportunity, he just drank his paycheck. Then come home and fuck our mom up and turn on us for being upset over that. I can remember my mom countng change to head to the grocery store while the old man was hung over in bed asleep. To see a drunken maniac go after your blonde haired little brother for being upset over his mom being hurt leaves quite the lasting impression.
That is why you will see me flame and get pissed when someone posts about women being beaten or anything innocent taking lumps. That's also why I have made myself as big and as stroing as I can be...If I should ever witness such an event the pig doing the beating will perish. THAT is how a MAN SHOULD act!
It is humorous to me as well to see someone post that they wish they were poor. The circumstances surrounding the poverty aren't always so honorable.
What is also in poor taste is to see someone simply post "nope". I don't know if I took it the wrong way or not, but if that was meant to be snotty then fuck off! I have more strength in me than you could ever hope to dream about.
That is why you will see me flame and get pissed when someone posts about women being beaten or anything innocent taking lumps. That's also why I have made myself as big and as stroing as I can be...If I should ever witness such an event the pig doing the beating will perish. THAT is how a MAN SHOULD act!
It is humorous to me as well to see someone post that they wish they were poor. The circumstances surrounding the poverty aren't always so honorable.
What is also in poor taste is to see someone simply post "nope". I don't know if I took it the wrong way or not, but if that was meant to be snotty then fuck off! I have more strength in me than you could ever hope to dream about.
May, I seriously doubt with all the degrees you have that you could relate. Who paid for them? I owe over 26k in student loans alone, and that is for a bachelors. You ever have to wear your older brother's shoes growing up after they were too small for him, but too big for you? I remember getting a pair of Nikes from my mom that she got from lost and found at work and I actually felt cool cause I had brand name shoes. Atleast some of you relate. And May, atleast if I made the kind of jack you were pulling down in San Fran I would have managed it enough to not have to move home with the parents. How old are you? Late thirties?
M
May1010
Guest
MP5 said:
When I graduated from college, I owed $0.00. Do you want to know why? Because I worked and paid for my tuition. My parents took care of my books. Also, I went to the University of California, not a private school. Please explain how you racked up $26,000 in debt. That's ridiculous!
After graduating, I worked for a few years and saved my money so that I could go to graduate school. Even while I was in grad school, I worked the graveyard shift at the local hospital.
Yeah, I made a lot of money in San Francisco. I was also able to save some money. My tuition for court reporting school is roughly $27,000. Guess what? I've got it! But, if I had to continue to pay $2,450 for rent plus other living expenses, I wouldn't be able to afford to go to school. Hence, I'm staying with my folks. It's a matter of priorities.
So, MP5, as much as it pains me to say this, FUCK YOU!!!!
I'm really curious how you racked up $27,000 in debt!
M
May1010
Guest
MP5 said:
Download ICQ, bitch ... and btw: I'll say "fuck you" to anyone I want. You think you can kick my ass? he he he ... you might be able to squish me if you sat on me but I don't think you're any match for my windmill.
Now go download ICQ.
16, wealthy and loving it, but everyone thinks im spoiled, which im not. People just look at how i look and call me spoiled, or the way i live, ppl are SO ignorant.
I study just as hard as anyone else in school, i hate ppl giving me that "oh with that money you have you're life is already set" bullshit
I study just as hard as anyone else in school, i hate ppl giving me that "oh with that money you have you're life is already set" bullshit
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Star
New member
Yeah I grew up poor. I have no respect for my mother for allowing that to happen either. As far as I am concerned we were on foodstamps because her lazy ass didn't feel like working. There was always some excuse for why. Those free lunches made me feel ashamed. I went to school and held down a full time job from the age of 11 on up. She never gave me shit and it sucked watching all the other kids have things I would never get unless I got it for myself. She was a loser and to this day I have tons of resentment towards her. (Bet you couldn't tell). I do have one thing to thank her for though........She taught me everything I NEVER wanted to be in life.
Star
Star
I grew up on the wrong side of the road.
Did without alot...never hurt me any.
Went to a very wealthy public school.
It was hard......I don't remember a time in my life i was not fight for or about something.
My older brother wouldn't fight...just him....so I would fight his battles also...kinda thought I had to up hold the family name..I guess..seems all very stupid now.
In high school I can remember one kind got a 150 bucks a week allowance, a gas card and money for cloths. His parent bought him a 69 ford mach1 mustang with a 429 corba jet for his 16 birthday...he never understood what that car was....ran it into a telephone pool about two month later.
I just know that it made me who I am and no matter how bad i had it my parents had it much worse than I.
Did without alot...never hurt me any.
Went to a very wealthy public school.
It was hard......I don't remember a time in my life i was not fight for or about something.
My older brother wouldn't fight...just him....so I would fight his battles also...kinda thought I had to up hold the family name..I guess..seems all very stupid now.
In high school I can remember one kind got a 150 bucks a week allowance, a gas card and money for cloths. His parent bought him a 69 ford mach1 mustang with a 429 corba jet for his 16 birthday...he never understood what that car was....ran it into a telephone pool about two month later.
I just know that it made me who I am and no matter how bad i had it my parents had it much worse than I.
Imnotdutch
butler monkey
Most of my family collect handouts from the government just to make ends meet. There is also this attitude in the area that I grew up that an education is worthless because there isnt enough work to use it and you cannot fight the class system in this country. Our class system dictates that the working class should remain working class and serve our superiors. I called bullshit on that one.....and worked hard for my education. The only way I could stay in school to do the necessary exams was to work 10 hours a day on a construction site and be an "external candidate".
My clothes were occasionally from a charity shop.....but I'd rather have them than have nothing. I'm 1 of only 4 out of my extended family of over 70 that actually stayed in school after age 16....because there is so little money available in my part of the country that kids are expected to get out and support themselves asap. According to the older people in that part of the country I'm the first person in 45 years to get a Ph.D that they can remember.....and I had to fight the system all of the way. Even now my background is held against me.
This is one reason why I'm going to quit research in a couple of months to be a teacher. If I only persuade a couple of kids from deprived backgrounds that they can do well then its worth it. And I hope to recruit these kids into my army that will overthrow the government and eventually take over the world.......
RyanH, anytime you feel like making your little "problem" smaller just give me a shout. I'll be happy to help you find some worthy causes. You might consider it therapy. I dont know how you manage when you have such a heavy burden to carry......
BM: What does "both my parents were off the boat mean"? Where are they from? Impressive story anyway. BTW I get this ad at the top of my page sometimes when I'm here....its just the top half of a womans face. Dark hair and intense look. It looks like you.....is it?
My clothes were occasionally from a charity shop.....but I'd rather have them than have nothing. I'm 1 of only 4 out of my extended family of over 70 that actually stayed in school after age 16....because there is so little money available in my part of the country that kids are expected to get out and support themselves asap. According to the older people in that part of the country I'm the first person in 45 years to get a Ph.D that they can remember.....and I had to fight the system all of the way. Even now my background is held against me.
This is one reason why I'm going to quit research in a couple of months to be a teacher. If I only persuade a couple of kids from deprived backgrounds that they can do well then its worth it. And I hope to recruit these kids into my army that will overthrow the government and eventually take over the world.......
RyanH, anytime you feel like making your little "problem" smaller just give me a shout. I'll be happy to help you find some worthy causes. You might consider it therapy. I dont know how you manage when you have such a heavy burden to carry......
BM: What does "both my parents were off the boat mean"? Where are they from? Impressive story anyway. BTW I get this ad at the top of my page sometimes when I'm here....its just the top half of a womans face. Dark hair and intense look. It looks like you.....is it?
RyanH said:
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WizKid25 said:16, wealthy and loving it, but everyone thinks im spoiled, which im not. People just look at how i look and call me spoiled, or the way i live, ppl are SO ignorant.
I study just as hard as anyone else in school, i hate ppl giving me that "oh with that money you have you're life is already set" bullshit
Brotha, if I was in your shoes, hell I'd be lovin' it too! I am glad that even though you admit you are priviliged you STILL study hard...keep it up. Don't WASTE YOUR PRIVILIGE!
Dutch, the expression "off the boat" means that you are an immigrant. Both my parents are from the same village in Hungary, though they came here nearly a decade apart. They married in this country. They worked hard for everything we had and though they fucked up a lot, I still appreciate what they did (ESPECIALLY MY MOTHER) for us. Their story though is no less remarkable than the stories of countless other immigrants before them and after them. Hell, knowing what I know now......my father pissed away more than I could've imagined. He really was a failure in this respect. Today, both my parents (very sad to say) are miserable wretches and like Star I do hold some resentment towards them both.....they could have been so much more if they didn't spend all of thier time trying to fuck each other for the cruel acts they perpetrated against one another - us kids caught in the middle. To some degree my girls are kind of experiencing this, but the difference is I am working hard to change our future.....my parents did NOT.
Dutch, a PHD?! Damn, I feel like a loser. I must say that my parents did not support my (or my sister's) going to college. They also had the working class mentality. My sister moved out, put herself through college and though she is now a stay-at-home mommy, she is much happier as she had the balls to stand on her own two feet, unafraid, and did WHAT SHE wanted to do.
I left college (though I did really well in school) and got married because I didn't believe that I could ever really be all that I wanted and partially to escape my parent's house (I stayed at home even though I got a decent scholarship to St John's U where I could've spent my junior year abroad in Budapest - I was afraid that I would not be able to "find" the money to come up with the rest of the tuition.....again, my failure because I didn't believe in myself.).
I may have found my balls later in life, but at least I found them.......you on the other hand, have HYUGE BALLS! Hats off to you!!!!
Imnotdutch
butler monkey
BM,
Just a couple of quick points.....
1)I thought thats what you meant by "off the boat". I just have problems with some of the US phrases sometimes.
2)Almost everybody thinks that their parents fail in some respect. My dad has prob lost tens of thousands of pounds over the last ten years.....but I refuse to waste my time thinking about how it could have been.
3)Why do you feel like a loser? You have 4 beautiful daughters and you are doing your absolute best for them. If that is the true definition of loser then I wish there were more "losers" in this world. I hope you werent even remotely serious when you said that (I have a hard time telling when americans are joking too!).
4)A degree doesnt make you a better person than anybody else.....even though some people would like to think it does.....and a Ph.D isn't that tough to get (unless you actually listen to those people that like to use it to make you feel inferior).
5)As far as leaving university goes.....I'm sure that you made the right decision at the time....and you seem to have turned out pretty well considering you are a "loser"
Just a couple of quick points.....
1)I thought thats what you meant by "off the boat". I just have problems with some of the US phrases sometimes.
2)Almost everybody thinks that their parents fail in some respect. My dad has prob lost tens of thousands of pounds over the last ten years.....but I refuse to waste my time thinking about how it could have been.
3)Why do you feel like a loser? You have 4 beautiful daughters and you are doing your absolute best for them. If that is the true definition of loser then I wish there were more "losers" in this world. I hope you werent even remotely serious when you said that (I have a hard time telling when americans are joking too!).
4)A degree doesnt make you a better person than anybody else.....even though some people would like to think it does.....and a Ph.D isn't that tough to get (unless you actually listen to those people that like to use it to make you feel inferior).
5)As far as leaving university goes.....I'm sure that you made the right decision at the time....and you seem to have turned out pretty well considering you are a "loser"
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absolute hardgainer
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I grew up poor, which wasn't a lot of fun back then. But it did teach me to value what little you have got and to make the most out of it. Now, I know people who still can't make ends meet even though they earn 250k a year, haha.
hardgainer (!)
hardgainer (!)
grew up poor also, my mother and two kids. however, trying to live better myself now that i'm older and can take responsibility for my own life. i do have lots of huge debt though as i did go to graduate school by way of financial debts for life. but i can be proud that everything i've accomplished has been solely the efforts of me wanting to achieve it and going after it.
vixenbabe
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I'm curious about something....
How many of you people who have" money"/special skills give back to your community?
My family has money. Nothing was handed over to me without me earning it . They taught me to value and respect what I earned. That is more than I can say for the kids now a days..... TAKE , TAKE , TAKE!
I want to know if anyone who has/had the means, gives anything back to their community?
I happen to be involved with a fantastic women's shelter in my town. I give them 20 hours a month going over their books. ALL FREE!
This thread made me sad in a lot of ways!
How many of you people who have" money"/special skills give back to your community?
My family has money. Nothing was handed over to me without me earning it . They taught me to value and respect what I earned. That is more than I can say for the kids now a days..... TAKE , TAKE , TAKE!
I want to know if anyone who has/had the means, gives anything back to their community?
I happen to be involved with a fantastic women's shelter in my town. I give them 20 hours a month going over their books. ALL FREE!
This thread made me sad in a lot of ways!
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Dutch....I know that I am not a loser (I have to keep reminding myself!). It is only an expression to let you know how much I think of what you and others like you have accomplished. In the future, instead of putting myself down, I will do just that - let people know how much I think of them WITHOUT feeling the need to tear myself down.
I know, I know.....self-esteem issues. Believe me, I am working very hard to undo all the negativity that has been fed me since I was very young.
Thank you for your kind words. It greatly helps!
I think you will be a fine teacher and your future students will be very fortunate to have someone like you positively influencing them when their parents will be sending them "don't even TRY to be more than you are" signals. Most will fall by the wayside, but the few who excel will undoubtedly be eternally grateful.
I respect you tremendously.
I know, I know.....self-esteem issues. Believe me, I am working very hard to undo all the negativity that has been fed me since I was very young.
Thank you for your kind words. It greatly helps!
I think you will be a fine teacher and your future students will be very fortunate to have someone like you positively influencing them when their parents will be sending them "don't even TRY to be more than you are" signals. Most will fall by the wayside, but the few who excel will undoubtedly be eternally grateful.
I respect you tremendously.
RyanH
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Again, money brings just as many problems as being poor does. I've always been able to ask my parents for whatever I want, and have, in return, usually gotten it.
But, look at what this does to your relationship. My parents often substitute money for love. Also, you'll find other people often substituting money for love. It doesn't work. Problems flow on and on for every dollar that is spent. Your problems will always be there, whereever you go, no matter how much you spend.
All that is required is enough money to live comfortably. Anything more than that is pointless. Money is a part of what's wrong with this country to begin with.
We have forgotten life's other values---good food, art, culture, literature...........
THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FREE....
But, look at what this does to your relationship. My parents often substitute money for love. Also, you'll find other people often substituting money for love. It doesn't work. Problems flow on and on for every dollar that is spent. Your problems will always be there, whereever you go, no matter how much you spend.
All that is required is enough money to live comfortably. Anything more than that is pointless. Money is a part of what's wrong with this country to begin with.
We have forgotten life's other values---good food, art, culture, literature...........
THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FREE....
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"We have forgotten life's other values---good food, art, culture, literature..........." RyanH
These are not the good things in life......
Friends,Family, and health. They are the things that matter. Of course time to enjoy them helps alot also.
You can keep your art, culture and literature. Just give me health!
These are not the good things in life......
Friends,Family, and health. They are the things that matter. Of course time to enjoy them helps alot also.
You can keep your art, culture and literature. Just give me health!
I grew up in a middle class family, whatever that is, and we had money for some things, and some things we didn't have money for. I know my father did his best in providing for my family, he worked his butt off so my mom could stay home whith the kids. I just wish he had lived long enough to enjoy his life, he was always working right up to the day he passed away.
Imnotdutch
butler monkey
BM,
Thanks for the comments.....greatly appreciated. Like I said, I think you are too hard on yourself sometimes.
RyanH,
If you read back through these posts you will see that even people with not so well off parents dont have a good relationship with them. You'll have to excuse me for not feeling sorry for you. It seems to me that it is human nature to find reasons that you are worse off than everybody else.....
Vixen,
You are absolutely right.....most of the world is only interested in themselves. Its a shame that more people arent prepared to help others. The only contributions I can currently make, due to a 80+ hour work week, is monetary or in one or two cases sitting down and listening to their problems.
Thanks for the comments.....greatly appreciated. Like I said, I think you are too hard on yourself sometimes.
RyanH,
If you read back through these posts you will see that even people with not so well off parents dont have a good relationship with them. You'll have to excuse me for not feeling sorry for you. It seems to me that it is human nature to find reasons that you are worse off than everybody else.....
Vixen,
You are absolutely right.....most of the world is only interested in themselves. Its a shame that more people arent prepared to help others. The only contributions I can currently make, due to a 80+ hour work week, is monetary or in one or two cases sitting down and listening to their problems.
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RyanH, I would have loved to have money instead of love. In my case i got neither. Dad was off banging his secretary (literally), and my mom was at the bar. There are lots of us here who got neither love nor money. Only thing good is I am independant, and I learned to cook dinner in like 3rd grade or I didn't eat.
M
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MP5 said:
Okay, MP5!
Quit whining! We all had issues to deal with. Deal with yours.
I was middle class I guess. My dad worked doing accounting for a big company, and my mom worked at a rehabilitation center. (Group home) Later on, my dad started his own business and made probably 100k, but then my mom and dad split up. So now i've been living with my dad and we are lower middle class. We are starting our own business soon and hope to eventually be in the upper class.
M
May1010
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MP5 said:
From what I read on the bathroom walls, you're much better at it than I am.
M
May1010
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MP5 said:
A weak comeback? I don't think so. You know what, I always thought you were cool (and I still do), but I think I'd like to kick your ass.
As for having many friends, you're right. I'm in Las Vegas and I have no friends here. In San Francisco, I had a great group of friends. Unfortunately, living in the closet these days prevents me from making any gay friends.
... and again, I think I could kick your ass.
M
May1010
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MP5 said:
No, you're wrong. Didn't you see "When Harry Met Sally"? In it, Harry says that men and women can not be friends because the man is always thinking about sleeping with the woman.
Likewise, a gay guy and a straight guy can not be friends because the gay guy will also be thinking about sleeping witht the straight guy. It's a fact. Look it up.
M
May1010
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MP5 said:
I don't know, but I dare you to ask him.
Lived most of my childhood in The Projects. In the Bronx.
Got jumped. Beat up for being small and smart. Parents split when I was 2, Mom died when I was 13.
I worked hard to do well in school. I joined the Army to get out of NYC. Boot camp taught me alot about myself.
No sob story, just a success story for those who think that all those poor kids in the City can't do it without special government grants and inflated grades and race-based scholarships.
Got jumped. Beat up for being small and smart. Parents split when I was 2, Mom died when I was 13.
I worked hard to do well in school. I joined the Army to get out of NYC. Boot camp taught me alot about myself.
No sob story, just a success story for those who think that all those poor kids in the City can't do it without special government grants and inflated grades and race-based scholarships.
Imnotdutch
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Most of what BM wrote was in response to things I asked.....what was she meant to do? Ignore me? Not everybody is that ignorant.
Aside from the answers I asked for she wrote no more than anybody else.
As far as it being a woman thing to like people to see the obstacles they overcome, I see more men answering on this thread than women so there goes that theory. Also, if everybody had refused to answer threads that might make them look bad in the eyes of the all-seeing all-knowing judge (that would be you) then alot of the threads wouldnt exist.
Aside from the answers I asked for she wrote no more than anybody else.
As far as it being a woman thing to like people to see the obstacles they overcome, I see more men answering on this thread than women so there goes that theory. Also, if everybody had refused to answer threads that might make them look bad in the eyes of the all-seeing all-knowing judge (that would be you) then alot of the threads wouldnt exist.
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Imnotdutch
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Hey quit shouting at me......I'm sensitive. Now I'm gonna sit in the corner and cry.......
BTW if that was directed at me you had better re-read my post..
BTW if that was directed at me you had better re-read my post..
Weapon X said:Bikinimom kicks ASS!!! Every day in every way.
SO you just shut the fuck up or you'll have half this board on your ass!!
absolute hardgainer
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RyanH, I strongly feel that I have to disagree with you here as I think some of what you are saying is quite ignorant:
"Money brings just as many problems as being poor does"
What kind of rich kid, upper-class bullshit is that? I can't believe you would actually say that crap. Sorry for having a go at you RyanH, but you OBVIOUSLY have not been poor.
Now, when I had to leave home I was homeless for like 2 weeks. I had no money, no job, was still finishing school and was pretty much buggered in a material sense.
Now, after years of plodding along I have certainly not moved up to the higher echelons of society, but I am far better off than I used to be, and also better off than anyone in my family. So, I've been poor and while I would not consider myself rich now, I know for sure that a financially secure situtation is always preferable to poverty.
These problems that you are talking about that money is supposed to bring, exist for just about everybody. INCLUDING THOSE WITH NO MONEY. Poverty in general amplifies whatever other problems people have.
hardgainer (if you've been poor and rich, you'd know which is better)
"Money brings just as many problems as being poor does"
What kind of rich kid, upper-class bullshit is that? I can't believe you would actually say that crap. Sorry for having a go at you RyanH, but you OBVIOUSLY have not been poor.
Now, when I had to leave home I was homeless for like 2 weeks. I had no money, no job, was still finishing school and was pretty much buggered in a material sense.
Now, after years of plodding along I have certainly not moved up to the higher echelons of society, but I am far better off than I used to be, and also better off than anyone in my family. So, I've been poor and while I would not consider myself rich now, I know for sure that a financially secure situtation is always preferable to poverty.
These problems that you are talking about that money is supposed to bring, exist for just about everybody. INCLUDING THOSE WITH NO MONEY. Poverty in general amplifies whatever other problems people have.
hardgainer (if you've been poor and rich, you'd know which is better)
Darkbrotha
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I grew up in South East DC.....one of the worst ghettos in the country....the bitch is that it is in the shadow of the capital. How's that shit grab ya????????
My father was killed when I was 6. Poor is all we know in the hood!
I pray and thank god every day that my Mama was hard on me and my brotha.......she taught us well! Respect people for who they are, and be proud of your self!
I could remeber starting the 5th grade in my Jocks (kmart) shoes. I got ripped on but I knew my mama worked hard for the $ for those shoes....so I was proud and I kept my head high!
My father was killed when I was 6. Poor is all we know in the hood!
I pray and thank god every day that my Mama was hard on me and my brotha.......she taught us well! Respect people for who they are, and be proud of your self!
I could remeber starting the 5th grade in my Jocks (kmart) shoes. I got ripped on but I knew my mama worked hard for the $ for those shoes....so I was proud and I kept my head high!
Darkbrotha
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Hey salami.....I like it....u reprasenten! I always say us niggas don't bite....but we be loud as hell in the flicks!
I love that theater.....after the movie go to johnie rockets grab a shake and look at all the crazies at the station!
I love that theater.....after the movie go to johnie rockets grab a shake and look at all the crazies at the station!
theoak01
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im not poor i dont think but im far from wealthy,my parents have bad credit which means we cant get the car we desperatly need,my mom doesnt know if she will have some of her contracts come september thanx to the canada trust/toronto dominion bank mergers,she cleans them and the ones she cleans are closing and she may not get the contracts back again,then its back to living on 30 thousand a year ,she will be making 18 and my dads pention is only 12000 a year,so it may be getting hard ,i value everything i get,and i buy most of my own things to help my parents
musclebrains
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There's a lot of comparing apples to oranges here. Only a fool would wish the experience of hard-core poverty and some of the descriptions here are painful to read. People who managed to rise above that level of cruel poverty should justly feel proud of themselves.
But it's also foolish to think that wealth doesn't produce unique problems. One thing this thread demonstrates is that you're not allowed to talk about the negative effects of growing up around money in this country. There's so much conviction that money can solve everyone's problems, that anyone who wants to talk about the particular negative effects of money is silenced, in the way Ryan has been dismissed here by several of you.
The actual truth is that unearned wealth often curses people with a sense of entitlement, robs them of ambition, frequently becomes a substitute currency of emotional expression, makes them despised in a world that on the one hand values money above all but hates anyone who doesn't work for it. When you're young and still in your family's money, you don't know who your friends are. All of this gets generalized as profound insecurity -- and, of course, to even say so invites ridicule.
The ridicule is so common that there are organizations in this country where the "closeted" adult children of wealthy people go to wring their hands and cry on one another's shoulders and do philanthropic work. It is pretty obscene to witness, but it's what happens when your experience is completely invalidated by people who think you have no reason to complain.
Ryan's wish to be comfortable but not wealthy makes perfect sense to me. It seems quite responsible.
But it's also foolish to think that wealth doesn't produce unique problems. One thing this thread demonstrates is that you're not allowed to talk about the negative effects of growing up around money in this country. There's so much conviction that money can solve everyone's problems, that anyone who wants to talk about the particular negative effects of money is silenced, in the way Ryan has been dismissed here by several of you.
The actual truth is that unearned wealth often curses people with a sense of entitlement, robs them of ambition, frequently becomes a substitute currency of emotional expression, makes them despised in a world that on the one hand values money above all but hates anyone who doesn't work for it. When you're young and still in your family's money, you don't know who your friends are. All of this gets generalized as profound insecurity -- and, of course, to even say so invites ridicule.
The ridicule is so common that there are organizations in this country where the "closeted" adult children of wealthy people go to wring their hands and cry on one another's shoulders and do philanthropic work. It is pretty obscene to witness, but it's what happens when your experience is completely invalidated by people who think you have no reason to complain.
Ryan's wish to be comfortable but not wealthy makes perfect sense to me. It seems quite responsible.
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