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Anyone help a newbie? deca+dianabol

BelgianFRED

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Hi,

I've never touched roids for the obvious side effects but I find it VERY hard to put on lean mass muscle and a mate of mine told me he took d-bol ( once or twice a week, injection) and 2 deca's a day. It works a treat apparently. I know it's not big doses but still is it worth it? What could be the side effects with low doses of d-bol?

might feel like a pussy to you lads but always been a tad scared of those things ;)
 
BelgianFRED said:
Hi,

I've never touched roids for the obvious side effects but I find it VERY hard to put on lean mass muscle and a mate of mine told me he took d-bol ( once or twice a week, injection) and 2 deca's a day. It works a treat apparently. I know it's not big doses but still is it worth it? What could be the side effects with low doses of d-bol?

might feel like a pussy to you lads but always been a tad scared of those things ;)

You're going to get alot of shit for this one! I wasn't aware that there was a oral Deca?? Christ, I'm not even going to waste any more time on this thread!
 
You've never touched 'roids for the obvious utter failure to bother to know anything about them.

Still, your plight is far from hopeless. Get yourself a Plat account and spend a year or two reading on here and you'll know enough to make an informed decision what to do next. While you are here you can spend some time fixing up your diet to perfection in the Diet forum and choosing a good workout program in the Weights forum. After just a few days or even hours of reading, you'll realise that 'roids are not a good solution for you at this stage in your development.

Good Luck.
 
I know quite a bit about food and training, I've been working out for about a year and the results with added protein are not that good after a year.
I'll browse through here then, thanks.
 
BelgianFRED said:
I might have got it the other way round there then... well is the combination of the two effective?

Bro, dbol & deca is famous combination,and it is very effective...there are lot of other very effective combinations,but you have to learn lot about steroids,usage,PCT,side effects...etc,before your cycle...
 
Blut Wump said:
You've never touched 'roids for the obvious utter failure to bother to know anything about them.

Still, your plight is far from hopeless. Get yourself a Plat account and spend a year or two reading on here and you'll know enough to make an informed decision what to do next. While you are here you can spend some time fixing up your diet to perfection in the Diet forum and choosing a good workout program in the Weights forum. After just a few days or even hours of reading, you'll realise that 'roids are not a good solution for you at this stage in your development.

Good Luck.

This is good advice.
 
Yeh I reckon I'll try build up as much natural lean muscle as I can then try that cycle. If you could give me the name of something good that would clear my liver for post cycle that would be great. I'm not aiming to get as big as you guys seem to be in your avatars I just want to add up a few inches of muscle on each body part.
 
NYBodyguard said:
ever since the flex wheeler book hit the market everyone knows someone who took dbol and deca.



Does he talk about his cycles in the book ??? Just curious. Late
 
BelgianFRED said:
Yeh I reckon I'll try build up as much natural lean muscle as I can then try that cycle. If you could give me the name of something good that would clear my liver for post cycle that would be great. I'm not aiming to get as big as you guys seem to be in your avatars I just want to add up a few inches of muscle on each body part.
Seriously, Fred, learn to do it without the sauce and you'll get to keep the muscle. If you run this cycle and try just to finish off with a bit of something to help out your liver then you'll lose every last scrap of any muscle you might gain. You'll be risking your health and your cup-size for nothing. Read up a lot more rather than jumping into this.

Start by reading everything in the PCT forum.
 
BelgianFRED said:
Yeh I reckon I'll try build up as much natural lean muscle as I can then try that cycle. If you could give me the name of something good that would clear my liver for post cycle that would be great. I'm not aiming to get as big as you guys seem to be in your avatars I just want to add up a few inches of muscle on each body part.

If you are looking for some liver protectants milk thistle is common as is tylers liver detix and another one called liv-52 I think??? I can't remember the last one but go to the AF store here and I beleive they have a few items.
 
I have to start somewhere though haven't I
I'll have a read through but from the looks of it, all I can read is associated to roids themselves and it's quite impossible for me to understand.
Then when you get slated on here for confusing pills and injections , you don't really expect much help either.

Anyway there's a few people on here who are sound and ready to help, I'll stick to that. a big thank to you.

nos da
 
BelgianFRED said:
I have to start somewhere though haven't I
I'll have a read through but from the looks of it, all I can read is associated to roids themselves and it's quite impossible for me to understand.
Then when you get slated on here for confusing pills and injections , you don't really expect much help either.

Anyway there's a few people on here who are sound and ready to help, I'll stick to that. a big thank to you.

nos da

I was just fucking wit ya Mang!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

seriously though, do your homework before you ask quest so we don't confuse any important info you are looking for. P
 
yeh acting tough behind our computer screen are we big boy :verygood:

Don't think you impress me coz your ten times my size, I've done 10 years kick boxing and would kick your 19 stones of muscle straight to the bloody moon fella ( You might look hard but I've seen skinny fuckers put monsters on their toes in the blink of an eye)

Now do one you spastic and never ever talk to me again you womblind dweeb
 
BelgianFRED said:
yeh acting tough behind our computer screen are we big boy :verygood:

Don't think you impress me coz your ten times my size, I've done 10 years kick boxing and would kick your 19 stones of muscle straight to the bloody moon fella ( You might look hard but I've seen skinny fuckers put monsters on their toes in the blink of an eye)

Now do one you spastic and never ever talk to me again you womblind dweeb

LOL ... This reply should be deleted Fred. You have to walk away from perceived insults sometimes.

Good conversation with you. Now its time to go to work.

Good luck to ya.
 
BelgianFRED said:
yeh acting tough behind our computer screen are we big boy :verygood:

Don't think you impress me coz your ten times my size, I've done 10 years kick boxing and would kick your 19 stones of muscle straight to the bloody moon fella ( You might look hard but I've seen skinny fuckers put monsters on their toes in the blink of an eye)

Now do one you spastic and never ever talk to me again you womblind dweeb


Are you for real?? Did you not see i was kind of apologizing for my first comment?? I was going to give you the bennefit of the doubt that you weren't a complete Dumb Fuck but you just proved that you were to everybody on the board! If you wanted any of these Bros to help you out, you just fucked that up! Notice somebody already bombed you ass once, keep going Tool! :evil:
 
taste-icles said:
are you saying that people are lying about taking gear to sound cool, or that everyone ran out to get some after that?

im saying because he mentions deca and dbol on every board now people are asking something in the line of

"can i gain 100 lbs on deca and dbol"

"my friend used deca and dbol hes like 100lbs heavier is he telling the truth"

blh blah blah

note in his book he talks about going from 200lbs to 300lbs
 
Maybe it should fella, but I walked away a first time which I usually don't because I'm not here to cause an argument but couldn't walk away a second sorry.I'm only here to ask people "in the know" for real answers as I really know nothing about it and not ashamed to say so. thanks for your help mate.
 
Oh sunshine please don't try and dig out of this hole you put yourself in.

After my first newbie comment you took the piss and told me this thread was useless ( in your own words) I did walk away as I knew all your cyber mates would jump on the bandwagon and ignore my question if I did.

But you came up again a second time ( and that wasn't a form of apology imo) so did you not expect me to react?

You might be sound in real life but you clearly didn't seem very accomodationg on here to me or to your friends ( I was told by pm that you were not on) I would like you to come on a board you know sod all about and ask for advice and see how you react if we come up with " I shouldn't pay attention to this thread , Do you homework etc "

If I'm asking for those tips, it's because the answers aren't in my schoolbooks eh.

Let's put this one to bed now lampost and don't you worry for me, I've had several top lads who know the score pm me some info.

tara ;)
 
BelgianFRED said:
I have to start somewhere though haven't I
I'll have a read through but from the looks of it, all I can read is associated to roids themselves and it's quite impossible for me to understand.
Then when you get slated on here for confusing pills and injections , you don't really expect much help either.

Anyway there's a few people on here who are sound and ready to help, I'll stick to that. a big thank to you.

nos da
I was the same when I first came on here. Lots of terms that mean very little to you. The only way is to keep reading until enough of it makes sense. The last thing you should be risking, though, is putting chemicals into yourself without knowing what you're getting into and how to recognize and deal with potential problems. Doing it without knowledge of PCT would make it a waste of time as would doing it without knowing how to maintain that muscle another five or six months down the line.
 
Alright then.

I'm aware that once you stop your cycle and PCT cycle it goes down but as long as I keep roughly half my gains on a regular basis ( thanks to hard trainging and good nutrition), I'll be happy with that.

Your right though, it's better to know about it ALL as health is precious.

cheers for the advice
 
NYBodyguard said:
im saying because he mentions deca and dbol on every board now people are asking something in the line of

"can i gain 100 lbs on deca and dbol"

"my friend used deca and dbol hes like 100lbs heavier is he telling the truth"

blh blah blah

note in his book he talks about going from 200lbs to 300lbs
Thanks, see I never read any bodybuilding books or that stuff, I find when I come to a board like this and ask first hand, I learn a lot more from real world Q&A than by getting a book. So I never heard of this book, thanks for clearing that up.

maybe the only way to go up 100lbs is if you were in a full bodycast for 6months and atrophied lol
 
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