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anyone ever use 1g p/week deca?

210toosmall said:
if so what is your opinion on it?
what did you run it with?
also what was pct like?
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Highest I have made it with deca is 800mg/week and at that dosage my dick hibernates, ancilliaries or not. Backed off to 600mg same gains as 800mg but none of the sides, just the normal water retention and no deca dick
 
I think Mike (Mentzer) was using 2grams of deca a week for the 80 Olympia. I'd have to track down Realgains though and ask him.

The most I've ever gone up to is 700, I can't imagine a gram or even 2 like Mike (might) have used!
 
I've done 1050mg of Nandrolone (Phenylprop, not deca) per week for 7 weeks. It was the base of my stacks for a while. Always through in some Test prop about 350mg/week to keep things regular.
 
deca is the ultimate anabolic!!!!

only side to worry about is deca dick...(which i personally dont experience)
 
doing this right now, switched from Trinabol150 to Normas. Been on 1200mg of tren a week now frontloading 1g of deca per week.
 
Catch Wrestler said:
BTW,how long was you using 1200mg's for?? Any sides??
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two months or so I think. Got some gyno, even arinidex/aromasin combo doesnt help :( been taking too much tren and dbol at the same time. now switching to deca, anavar and tbol, will see if it helps to get rid of gyno :)
 
Nytol2 said:
What sort of gains did you get from that amount of tren? Dostinex may have helped the tren gyno.
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I`m trying to stay lean and add some more mass. gained over 20lbs for past two weeks, something like 255lbs right now. been on low carb diet most of the time while I was taking 1200g of tren. Now going back to low carb diet, too much extra weight, I dont like it.
 
Catch Wrestler said:
Ret,was you using anything with the 1200mg's of tren,or was it tren on it's own??
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I was using 150mg dbol along with tren, 100mg of tbol, 5cc of winny a day, 500mg of test every 10days. now getting rid of dbol and switching to norma deca, tbol and var. 150mg of tbol and 150mg of var a day. will see how it works. maybe will add some primo as well. still taking 5cc winny ed, ouch, my shoulders hurt :)
 
Retabolil2 said:
I was using 150mg dbol
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Dam i am growing tits just thinking about that much dbol a day..liver? what liver lol..That much make your balls turn to rasins?
I tryed to go from dbol 2 times a day to 3 times and worked good for a week or so and bang nutts slap disapeared so i stick with 2 times works better for me....Look soild bro.if i hit the lotto id look like that too :)
 
Retabolil2 said:
I`m trying to stay lean and add some more mass. gained over 20lbs for past two weeks, something like 255lbs right now. been on low carb diet most of the time while I was taking 1200g of tren. Now going back to low carb diet, too much extra weight, I dont like it.
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Dude nice vascularity.......you look ripped.........Must be nice to have all that good clean euro gear.
 
Looking sick! Great size and shred. Damn thats a lot of AAS though. What are you using to protect your liver etc? what does your pct look like? How many cycles a year?
 
slat1 said:
Looking sick! Great size and shred. Damn thats a lot of AAS though. What are you using to protect your liver etc? what does your pct look like? How many cycles a year?
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I started steroids 9months ago. If you want to protect your liver then dont take steroids. All those tylers and Liv52 only destroy steroids in your liver, no need to take them while you`re cycle, waste of money...
 
Retabolil2 said:
I started steroids 9months ago. If you want to protect your liver then dont take steroids. All those tylers and Liv52 only destroy steroids in your liver, no need to take them while you`re cycle, waste of money...
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You mean you started your cycle 9 months ago, correct? You didn't just start taking steroids for the first time 9 months ago and jump into dosages like that, did you? So you recommend only taking liver protectors after your cycle? Not during? I've never heard that before.
 
Retabolil2 said:
I started steroids 9months ago. If you want to protect your liver then dont take steroids. All those tylers and Liv52 only destroy steroids in your liver, no need to take them while you`re cycle, waste of money...
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that is INSANE i cant believe you are that big and youve only been juicin for 9 months.
then again is it good to start going that high with dosages when uve only been on 9 months....?
 
ret, how long are you planning that run w deca?
will it be 1g a week the whole time? as you said you were frontloading,
are you using hcg throughout?
 
I remember reading that fonz used 1g of deca for 10 weeks and liked it a lot.. i hit 600mg before, but the prolactin got to me. i didn't have any dostinex kicking around either. I had bromo, but it wasn't very effective and gave me nasty sides.
 
wouldn't believe anything fonz posted.

retabolil has been around here for awhile iirc and he probably means he started this cycle 9 months ago, but he can clear that up.
 
210toosmall said:
to each thier own.
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I usually subscribe to that, but damn that is a lot of drugs. It's just hard for me to justify that unless you are an elite athlete. Hope he doesn't fuck himself up. Life is too valuable.
 
silverbackn said:
I usually subscribe to that, but damn that is a lot of drugs. It's just hard for me to justify that unless you are an elite athlete. Hope he doesn't fuck himself up. Life is too valuable.[/QUOTE

I'd have to agreewith you here! Ret is a solid Bro but that seems like an aweful high amount of roids that tend to a liver no good even @ small doses. :worried:
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growthspurt said:
silverbackn said:
I usually subscribe to that, but damn that is a lot of drugs. It's just hard for me to justify that unless you are an elite athlete. Hope he doesn't fuck himself up. Life is too valuable.[/QUOTE

I'd have to agreewith you here! Ret is a solid Bro but that seems like an aweful high amount of roids that tend to a liver no good even @ small doses. :worried:
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Very high amounts of very toxic drugs.
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silverbackn said:
I usually subscribe to that, but damn that is a lot of drugs. It's just hard for me to justify that unless you are an elite athlete. Hope he doesn't fuck himself up. Life is too valuable.
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your very right.
i hope he knows what hes doing as well!
ill pray for your liver ret!
 
I dont think progesterone starts to rear its ugly head till around week 7 so I personally will only do deca for 8 weeks. Of course using dostinex or liquid cabergoline will prevent the ugly sides of deca.
 
Catch Wrestler said:
Ret,how much did your strength go up with that dosage??Give us some examples.
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currently doing dead lifts 250kg for 10reps. its around 550lbs for 10reps. Strength is going through the roof right now but I couldnt touch heavy weights while I was on low carb diet, its impossible thing to do, joints hurt so much...
 
210toosmall said:
ret, how long are you planning that run w deca?
will it be 1g a week the whole time? as you said you were frontloading,
are you using hcg throughout?
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it will be 2 weeks frontloading at 1g per week then 600mg per week for 4weeks more. I`m going to end my cycle with this combo. Sure did some HCG between the cycles. actually had a break for one month, during this period of time been using 5cc of winny only and nothing else, it was good time for recovery so I`ve been using HCG at 1000iu every 5days.
 
Thanks for answering my question Ret.BTW,you don't have to convert kilos into pounds for me,as we use kilos here in Britain too,although I know the others probably need the conversion.Thanks bro.
That's some awesome strength gains.It would be interesting to see how much you could deadlift for less reps(likefive or six).What about some of your other lifts??
 
Catch Wrestler said:
Thanks for answering my question Ret.BTW,you don't have to convert kilos into pounds for me,as we use kilos here in Britain too,although I know the others probably need the conversion.Thanks bro.
That's some awesome strength gains.It would be interesting to see how much you could deadlift for less reps(likefive or six).What about some of your other lifts??
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BTW my training partner goes to Britain 8th of october, going to compete there. Very good guy, doesnt speak english though :)
 
Retabolil2 said:
I was using 150mg dbol along with tren, 100mg of tbol, 5cc of winny a day, 500mg of test every 10days. now getting rid of dbol and switching to norma deca, tbol and var. 150mg of tbol and 150mg of var a day. will see how it works. maybe will add some primo as well. still taking 5cc winny ed, ouch, my shoulders hurt :)
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I know its already been said but DAAAAMMM thats some amont of gear :chomp: Im on500mgs of sust ew after reading youre cycle mine dosent seem like a cycle anymore
 
Retabolil2 said:
currently doing dead lifts 250kg for 10reps. its around 550lbs for 10reps. Strength is going through the roof right now but I couldnt touch heavy weights while I was on low carb diet, its impossible thing to do, joints hurt so much...
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I wish you continued success and health!
 
Retabolil2 said:
it will be 2 weeks frontloading at 1g per week then 600mg per week for 4weeks more. I`m going to end my cycle with this combo. Sure did some HCG between the cycles. actually had a break for one month, during this period of time been using 5cc of winny only and nothing else, it was good time for recovery so I`ve been using HCG at 1000iu every 5days.
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You would love running it at 1g for 8 weeks bro. You should try it. Just run .5mgs dostinex e4d and ull be a horny mofo.lol
 
Ive seen cycles that make that one look like a first cycle lol.Some from guys on these boards and some from guys at the gyms.The guys that move large cuantities of juice around here seem to be on a shitload of gear themselfs.He is a big fucker right now so thats plenty of justification to do those dosages,If you want to be a monster thats what its going to take,sides affect every1 different.I know people that wouldnt get any sides from a cycle like that.Only thing I see that is a little overkill is all that tren but who knows it may get even better at 200 mg per day.
 
I have used it.
In my first cycle started with 600 mg EQ/wk, for about 7 or 8 weeks, when growth stopped switched to 1000 mg deca/week and insulin, and growth resumed, gained about 25 pounds, well not all rock-hard because of the insulin, but awesome.
As for sides just a bit deca-dick, and pain from the injections, as both deca and eq where only 50 mg/ml.
IMO deca is a very very safe drug, even in high dosages.
Feel free to PM if you need more info.
 
galaxy said:
Just working. Typical shit. U gonna be upping the doses for any upcoming shows?
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Both of my shows are overwith for the summer. I'm au natural right now. I'm weighing about 233'ish. Nothing new going on. Same old shit.
 
Bozwell said:
I know its already been said but DAAAAMMM thats some amont of gear :chomp: Im on500mgs of sust ew after reading youre cycle mine dosent seem like a cycle anymore
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a friend of mine who goes to Britain currently riunning 500mg of sust every day! :) so it only depends on your stats experience and goals of course.
 
for all you guys that dont know, RET has been here for years and years, he;s been doing this even longer. he knows his body and knows what he is doing. good russian bro fo sho
 
that's a nice meaty cycle ret.. 1g of tren is awesome for strength. Great to see someone really, really big and jacked moving a lot of weight too :)
 
alltraps said:
for all you guys that dont know, RET has been here for years and years, he;s been doing this even longer. he knows his body and knows what he is doing. good russian bro fo sho
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not to mention has had the size of a smaller pro bodybuilder, not many on here can boast a set of arms bigger than 20" and ripped
 
Retabolil2 said:
BTW my training partner goes to Britain 8th of october, going to compete there. Very good guy, doesnt speak english though :)
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Would that be for the NABBA UNIVERSE 2005 competition Ret?
 
post them pics up for us non-plats, I definately want to check them out. That is definately a hefty cycle there, but as long as you know what you are doing and know your body well enough than all the power to you. I have trouble with the sides from tren at 100mg/day let alone the amount that Ret is running. What are the sides like at that dose, is there a big difference or not much at all?
 
Baywatch69 said:
Big lad and will do well at the comp :)

No point saying hi if i see him at the comp as he can't speak english ;)
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He understand english a little bit and there would be a large team of russian bbrs I think :)
 
DieselGunz said:
Damn some ripped mo fos around your area
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One one of the pics you can see that he is fat offseason :) Most time of the year he is trying to put more mass and getting fat at the same time :) Lots of water weight too but one month before the show its a different person, ripped as hell!
 
Retabolil2 said:
One one of the pics you can see that he is fat offseason :) Most time of the year he is trying to put more mass and getting fat at the same time :) Lots of water weight too but one month before the show its a different person, ripped as hell!
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Deff I am amazed at how much water and fat a BB can drop before a contest
 
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