Bigdawg1468 said:
The problem is that it isn't just my shoulder, it is shoulder, both elbows, cracked disc in back and now a strained oblique.
Guys on my hockey team laugh and say if being healthy and in shape means being in as much pain as you are I wanna stay fat LOL.
I dunno... sounds to me like you are singing to the choir.
Trying to "get there" is way more difficult than it is actually "staying there" (unless you get to be me LOL then you get to struggle not to look like Kate Moss - but look at the upshot... I get to eat all the Krispy Kremes I want! SO THERE

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Being in the best shape of your life shouldn't mean that you are wearing it out long before you die LOL.... Being in the best shape of your life means that YOU FEEL GOOD AND LOOK GOOD... there is a happy medium you know.
Or maybe you can look at it like this....
On one side of the scale you have beating the shit out of your body just to see how long you can - the result is that you also look pretty damned good. But break yourself down so that by the time you are 40 something you will barely be able to train anymore let alone beat the shit out of your body. (No exaggeration darlin')
Guess how good you will look and feel then?
On the other side of the scale, you train hard, are as active as you want to be, keep a reality check realizing that you are no "pro" and will not earn tons of dough so no use becoming a decrepit old man on the inside long before your outside says you are... and still look pretty damned awesome. Guess what? You can do this till the day you die.
Which would you choose if you had your druthers?
And I may not be what I once was, but I got 55# dumbbells up for 5 unassisted reps last night.... SO THERE!

I can't do this every workout because I felt the strain on my tendons. But it was nice that I had a few good days back to back, could eat well and I got those fuckers up.
I could shift gears, clean up my diet, do a little cardio and be smaller but very lean.... and give up those Krispy Kremes?
HELL NO.
