Anyone else fed up with China imports?

[cindylou]

What people fail to understand is that artificially increasing minimum wage to a "living wage", let's say $12.00 an hour, will artificially increase the cost of all goods and services produced by said people. That would then force more production jobs overseas.

What people fail to understand is that we DEPEND on the working POOR to keep our lifestyle.

Most of us can live with that....but we at least need to acknowledge it ; and give them respect (by not calling them lazy they are not ) that they deserve since they are not getting the wages they deserve.

 

[roadwarrior]

What people fail to understand is that we DEPEND on the working POOR to keep our lifestyle.

Most of us can live with that....but we at least need to acknowledge it ; and give them respect (by not calling them lazy they are not ) that they deserve since they are not getting the wages they deserve.

I agree that we depend on low skilled people to do low value jobs but I don't agree they DESERVE to make anymore. If they want more money then they need to develop more valuable skills. There will always be a need for low skilled labor and there will always be low skilled labor available. Look at all the uneducated people in this country. They need to work and not get welfare, food stamps or anything else unless they are elderly or too ill/ handicapped to work and I don't self induced problems from alcoholism/ drug abuse. We can crack down on employment of illegal aliens, secure our borders and set up a workable visiting worker program to fill the gap if necessary. But pushing work over welfare would fill most low skilled/ low value jobs.

 

[gotmilk]

China is actually doing something.

They killed that guy over bribes and the fact that he was approving certain drugs for China that were known to be deadly. Here in the U.S. we halt drugs like Vioxx before people die off in multiples. In China, you simply write that guy a check and nobody knows until after the deaths already occur...he was accepting money to approve useless drugs. I'd kill him too.

China doesn't want to send out defective/dangerous products but business is so out of control over there it's going to take a while.

Do you think they really care? Did you not see where the Chinese govt warned us about smearing their reputation? The Chinese followed that threat by banning certain US grains claiming we were sending them bacteria filled grains. In addition, the Chinese claimed there were no anti-freeze residue in toothpaste and our govt was lying. There were also no pollutants in the pet foods and we were supposely making that up too (until the US actually proved the glutine was contaminated)...this is a country where like 90% of their water supply is contaminated with oils and pesticides and they could care less.

Japan at one time was known for selling cheap crap, over time they went high end and their economy hasn't really done much in a decade.

Huh? Toyota, LG, Samsung, Sony, Canon, Sharp, Honda, Fujitsu, Nissan.....cheap crap there.....

Over the last 2.5 years, Japan's economy grew almost double what the US and European Union produced.

For the last economic quarter, Japan outpaced the US 7% vs 4.2%

From 1993 to 2003, Japan struggled with investments and issues with retiring workers. However, their country is on fire recently. Strong work ethic, elderly people who take good care of themselves, NO FUCKING IMMIGRANTS, and solid exporting contracts make Japan the third largest GDP now (not counting oil rich Arab countries that are expanding thru acquisitions).

In fact, the Yen would be stable if the US dollar could recover a little more.

 

[manny78]

Why are we importing all this shit from a country with all these human rights violations in the first place.

We need to put an end to Chinese imports!

Lol at the human rights thing. The US deal with Saudi Arabia and some nasty countries like that so that shouldnt be an issue...

And btw, we import chinese crap because the average american has the "Wal-Mart" mentality and still believes that the cheaper, the better.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Do you think they really care? Did you not see where the Chinese govt warned us about smearing their reputation?
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That is the only reason they care. They will stop the dangerous stuff if they think their businesses will be impacted. Europe has banned a lot of China's seafood already and they don't want the US to do the same. Same with lead paint. If the US won't buy it then they need to stop using lead paint. Do they care deep in their hearts? Hell no.

Huh? Toyota, LG, Samsung, Sony, Canon, Sharp, Honda, Fujitsu, Nissan.....cheap crap there.....
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Back in the 50's, 60's and most of the 70's they were known for cheap crap. End of the 70's earily 80's is when things changed. Their car industry and electronic industries really pushed them over the top. In the earily 80's their cars were know as low cost but where they beat the US is quality. Also the US didn't know how to make a decent small car and after the oil crisis they were forced to build small cars where as Japan always made small cars.
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I haven't really paid attn. to Japan as a whole in a long time so their economy may be picking up. They also have very cheap money in Japan driving their economy.


All countries that end up wealthy do so in one way. Trade. Either natural resources like the middle east. They're out buying their economy for the future. Or manufacturing like China. All countries that went through an industrial revolution looked like Hell holes at some point. Then they get rich enough to care about pollution. I live next two counties in SC that are dirt poor and they will take any business. They don't care what it is. Nuclear power plants, coal fired power plants, chemicals, refineries, whatever. They simply don't care about anything but getting more tax money and jobs into their counties. China is just on a much bigger scale. Poor people don't care about anything except how do I make more money.

 

[heatherrae]

Lol at the human rights thing. The US deal with Saudi Arabia and some nasty countries like that so that shouldnt be an issue...

And btw, we import chinese crap because the average american has the "Wal-Mart" mentality and still believes that the cheaper, the better.

The cheaper the better mentality is because no one has a damned job because theyve all been shipped overseas.

 

[javaguru]

The cheaper the better mentality is because no one has a damned job because theyve all been shipped overseas.

No, people are cheap......basic economics...

 

[Mr. dB]

Okay, we had poison rice in our animal foods that killed our animals.

People have died from their nasty ass seafood imports from polluted waters.

Then, there are the contaminated meats and vegetables.

Finally, our kids are chewing on toys painted with f'in LEAD PAINT because the damn things are made in China.

Why are we importing all this shit from a country with all these human rights violations in the first place.

We need to put an end to Chinese imports!

The computer you're using to visit Elite is probably Chinese or mostly Chinese.

 

[Razorguns]

still believes that the cheaper, the better.

we get cheap shit. our life improves. their life improves. we just tamed a communist country.

they're even paying for our war and buying our debt.

seems like a great mutually beneficial arrangement.

r

 

[manny78]

The cheaper the better mentality is because no one has a damned job because theyve all been shipped overseas.

Lol people were already cheap. Wayyyyyy before that outsourcing thing started.