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Anybody who values their freedom ought to contribute to the ACLU.........

Testosterone boy said:
You think you have freedom of speech now? :lmao:


Keep your head in the sand.
that wasnt the point i was making. it was more about me not paying for what i can already do for free.
 
redshirt27se said:
that wasnt the point i was making. it was more about me not paying for what i can already do for free.

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Sh4dowF4lcon said:
funny. i realize you are a generous man by all acounts, but i still won't fork out cash to any message board. not cause i'm stingy, but because the members are what make the message board what it is. if anything the top contributers should be being paid, not the other way around.
 
The ACLU has hurt this country more than ANY other organization. 99% of the time their attorney's support the degenerates, communists, freeloaders, and every single religion except Christianity.

They do not support the consitituition at all as has already been pointed out in this thread. 99% of their staff are extremely liberal and hate democracy and the American system of laws and family.

Their agenda plain and simple is to complete degrade the moral and ethical standards this country was founded upon. To achieve this they will 1) try anything to remove Christianity anywhere they can. 2) make government insitutions (ie jails, prisons, police, etc.) become totally inaffective by imposing restrictions/rules. 3) protect the "rights" of the criminals, so they can be released sooner and victimize more.
 
Viking850 said:
The ACLU has hurt this country more than ANY other organization. 99% of the time their attorney's support the degenerates, communists, freeloaders, and every single religion except Christianity.

They do not support the consitituition at all as has already been pointed out in this thread. 99% of their staff are extremely liberal and hate democracy and the American system of laws and family.

Their agenda plain and simple is to complete degrade the moral and ethical standards this country was founded upon. To achieve this they will 1) try anything to remove Christianity anywhere they can. 2) make government insitutions (ie jails, prisons, police, etc.) become totally inaffective by imposing restrictions/rules. 3) protect the "rights" of the criminals, so they can be released sooner and victimize more.

Could you point me to the study that demonstrates this 99% figure you're spouting?
 
redshirt27se said:
funny. i realize you are a generous man by all acounts, but i still won't fork out cash to any message board. not cause i'm STINGY...


For a minute I thought you said STINKY...how does this relate to the ACLU?
 
Just take a look at everytime you hear or read anything about this wonderful organization. Have you EVER heard of an ACLU defending a prison guard, a cop, a Christian, someone that wants to display a manger scene on their own lawn, etc. No! and you never will. Use some common sense! This is a left wing group bent on destroying America.

How do you justify representing Mexican Citizens who attempt to ILLEGALY enter this country via the Mexican Border and end up dying of dehydration? A team of ACLU attorney's sued the state of Arizona and won a mulit million settlement. Now the Feds were forced to put up Water Towers with lights so that it will not happen again. This is the ACLU at its best!
 
Viking850 said:
Just take a look at everytime you hear or read anything about this wonderful organization. Have you EVER heard of an ACLU defending a prison guard, a cop, a Christian, someone that wants to display a manger scene on their own lawn, etc. No! and you never will. Use some common sense! This is a left wing group bent on destroying America.

How do you justify representing Mexican Citizens who attempt to ILLEGALY enter this country via the Mexican Border and end up dying of dehydration? A team of ACLU attorney's sued the state of Arizona and won a mulit million settlement. Now the Feds were forced to put up Water Towers with lights so that it will not happen again. This is the ACLU at its best!

This doesn't tell me where you got the 99% figure from.

So, you're upset because the laws and rules in AZ allows the ACLU lawyers to win a multi-million dollar law suit? So in your estimation, the problem is with the ACLU and not the laws?
 
Viking850 said:
Just take a look at everytime you hear or read anything about this wonderful organization. Have you EVER heard of an ACLU defending a prison guard, a cop, a Christian, someone that wants to display a manger scene on their own lawn, etc. No! and you never will. Use some common sense! This is a left wing group bent on destroying America.

How do you justify representing Mexican Citizens who attempt to ILLEGALY enter this country via the Mexican Border and end up dying of dehydration? A team of ACLU attorney's sued the state of Arizona and won a mulit million settlement. Now the Feds were forced to put up Water Towers with lights so that it will not happen again. This is the ACLU at its best!

curling?
 
redshirt27se said:
funny. i realize you are a generous man by all acounts, but i still won't fork out cash to any message board. not cause i'm stingy, but because the members are what make the message board what it is. if anything the top contributers should be being paid, not the other way around.

With all respect, I hope you will reconsider. Before Elite, there was virtually NO steroid discussion of the sort that we made possible for the first time ever. Also, there is a difference between a good member who participates on the site and a member who supports the site.

A good member makes thoughtful informative posts and helps the other members - we want as many good members as we can get, but the more of them that come here, the more expensive this site is to run. EliteFitness.com exists because of the generosity of our supporting members and their contributions in the form of a Platinum Membership that makes it possible to keep a site of this size online.

And the perks of a Platinum Membership are great too.
 
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